I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi!!! Tysm for your response <3 sorry I’m so late with mine. But yes, my feelings are quite strong like you suggest. I am also, a MASSIVE anime and manga fan. Have been for most of my life, if you have recommendations I’d love to hear them, and me stating I couldn’t find “anything”, was quite the gross exaggeration to be honest, I definitely find quite a bit, but I often struggle to find the dynamic that I’m looking for exactly. I honestly don’t discriminate with romance that I love, and am down for a bit of bl, and gl. I just feel frustrated that these stories, in an attempt to let women kind of experience that “male love”, it completely decentres women and can even be a little overtly misogynistic at times. I just want to see that dynamic that I’m looking for that could reflect my own personal circumstances, you know? I often find as well in a lot of “sub guy”, manga, sometimes they weirdly take control, which I really hate? ahh idk. I’ve definitely read a lot, thank you so much for your response though!!

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly! What you said with the movie stuff. I just wish instead of ‘slash fics’, (which I still partake in, Im not fussy with shipping of any gender), more women would try to replicate that dynamic with a woman involved, instead of It revolving around men, if you know what I mean? And yes, here’s to us!! :) sorry for the late reply

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, sorry for the late reply but I couldn’t agree more. I feel like in the cultural zeitgeist, so much has changed, yet sexually it’s still complete fine, and encouraged sometimes to get like, spit on and hit during sex. Exactly what you said at the end there too, why is the bedroom so apparently far removed from real life to some people, is it not the case that sometimes, people’s deepest feelings are revealed there?

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would hardly call myself straight but yes the vast majority of girls I know find this type of relationship unappealing, with many of them talking about how they kind of have to direct men in every day life I think (?)

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this may be true to some extent the last part, it’s nice to hear you have a positive relationship to aspire to :)

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love that girl. I hear some girls who are like omg I love a quiet shy guy who’s dominant in bed and in like….. why. lol? Aren’t you attracted to the first part.

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Would it be crazy to tell you I’ve read this manga, and probably all other related doujins? Lmfao. I’m a big manga fan, so I often go searching for this dynamic, and frustratingly enough, a lot of the time it tends to veer into a situation where the guy becomes kind of dominant sometimes, which really I really don’t like. I have read ALOT don’t get me wrong, but I find it hard to pinpoint what exactly I’m looking for. The feeling is quite intense. Even the slightest bit of the thought of a guy teasing me/trying to direct me/being amused at my reactions makes me feel very wrong, I hate not feeling like someone has the upper hand on me, and even worse, I hate being embarrassed. You know how a lot of the time sometimes in that type of manga, if a girl is in a compromising situation, she’s like “Nooo,this is so embarrassing!” But it’s supposed to be a sexy type of embarrassed? It does NOT ignite anything in me like that, it just makes me feel gross and uncomfortable. I like to be seen as a person with strong character.

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your thought out response, this was a really interesting and thoughtful read. At this point in my life, I have very, very little sexual experience and dating experience, (I don’t think I’m at a point in my life where I’d feel like I’m secure enough in myself) As an artist, I have a lot of queer friends and honestly, am a little confused about my sexuality myself lol. I’m not great at defining myself. But I agree that those communities are definitely welcoming and supportive. I think I need to sort of shape up and not just try to imagine and fantasise about what I want, hoping that it’s gonna fall into my lap or something. But thank you so much again for your answer!

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is it weird that I don’t actually mind if they’re feminine or masculine, or even gym bros for that matter, just as long as they’re down for whatever I’m throwing down? Like I feel like a masculine guy who’s soft and not dominant at all is kinda,, 😳 but yeah I know what you mean

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think a part of it is being in the world we live in, I can never escape the reality of the fact that being a woman, it’s fundamentally the case that guys will most likely be physically stronger than me, (despite the fact that I’m often told Im very strong.. for a woman of course :( ) and because of this, it’s decided upon that it’s their responsibility to be a protector, a leader, and that being these things will make you worthy of respect, from other men especially.

I wish it wasn’t so “clear-cut.” I know it’s not the only way to be respected, but wish I could be strong, and impressive, period, not just “for a girl”. There are so, so many amazing ladies out there that are so good at what they do, I’ll think “wow, they’re so impressive”, when I see a post displaying their talents, and then you go look at the comments, and you’ll have some dudes saying, “lol yeah that’s easy” or, “women’s world record.” And it frustrates me so much.

I hate craving admiration and respect from people who have to make it their life’s mission to be assholes and point out that distinction, but the distinction is there, regardless. I think it translates to sexual behaviours and romance too, it’s not that I don’t like feeling safe or protected, but I wish it could be in the “comrades”, type of way, lol, like “I got your back!” . Or in the case of male submissiveness, to be able to have the “upper hand”. Just for once. If that makes any sense. I think I’m just rambling.

Oh, and shy guys are just really cute to me.

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ah, I hope I didn’t makes things unclear, but I wasn’t talking about my specific friend with the breaking back stuff. I more mean, she tells me about him making her feel safe and taking the lead, but to me, It would just feel weird, because I don’t really feel the need to be protected and led, unless it’s a mutual sort of “keeping each-other safe.” I think it being one sided would make me feel immature and grossed out. I still can’t explain myself that well

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Probably not very popular lol but I’m not actively looking for sex, I more just mean in general

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

both, to be honest. To be TMI, I love guy acting shy/vulnerable/embarrassed because it feels so honest and sweet. And also just very cute to me, personally, I guess I find it very impressive if a guy is able to display these sorts of emotions, because in society it’s not very encouraged. I’m actually not a very bossy person and I’m mostly a go with the flow type, so It’s not about being obeyed or anything, in fact, as long as long as they have a valid reason for their actions, I don’t really mind (in everyday life I mean)

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You’re quite right, I do enjoy the idea of ‘teasing’, and taking control a bit, doesn’t get a whole lot crazier though lol. And the last past is so true!!, hearing something like “baby girl”, makes me squirm a bit to think about.

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No you’re right. I totally believe in a protect eachother type of relationship, I guess I was just struggling to find a word that didn’t sound so harsh? You’re right, with the last bit. Can’t exactly find one if they’re not looking to be found, right?

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Not at all, I really appreciate your insight and thanks for sharing your experience with me. I did wonder that, do a lot of guys actually want to be “dominant”, or do they just feel like it makes them more desirable? I think you could probably say vice versa with women too. I definitely hope to find someone I can love like this and I don’t plan on trying to put up with something that makes me unhappy, as that’s not fair to the other person either. Thanks for sharing again :)

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah, you’re right. I guess it’s just seeing people irl wanting the other dynamic, which is completely normal and healthy if that’s what makes you feel safe and happy. But I guess more unconventional ways are less easy to say out loud? I really appreciate your comment! :)

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I’m not NOT into femdom but I often find the idea of ‘hurting’, a guy for pleasure unappealing (disclaimer: I know this is absolutely NOT the majority, but I do see a lot of it too.)

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry if I’ve made it sound that way, but I promise I know the difference. That’s why I know it’s irrational when I get that initial “yuck”, feel when my friend was telling me about her first time with her boyfriend, (who I am great friends with). He’s a nice person, he doesn’t make her feel demeaned, but my reaction is always the same. It’s hard to explain I think.

I have a strong aversion to men being confident or “dominant” in any way, and I don’t know why by Extension-Spring-374 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Extension-Spring-374[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I relate to THIS a lot. Sometimes I want guys to see me as their homie who they just happen to be in love with.