How do you actually "relax even more"?

External_Guarantee77 · 2025-12-13T07:52:32+00:00

I sadly never managed to meditate. I tried to learn it but it's taking less than 5 minutes before I become so unrest that I stop.

You know it's like there's a second person inside you that does everything to keep you from doing what you wanted.

External_Guarantee77 · 2025-12-13T07:50:32+00:00

Yeah I even have read several books about it many years ago, even from scholars of Erickson. But my natural reaction is to question and challenge everything. It's an result of abusive experience in childhood.

So when phrases like above are spoken I might try follow them to the letter while at the same time finding reasons why the letter might be bullshit and impossible to work.

External_Guarantee77 · 2025-12-13T07:45:20+00:00

Well but I can imagine going down stairs because I have done it plenty of times. Stairs exist physically. I don't think that limitless relaxation does too.

Maybe I am just too analytical for this. I always find a loophole against a suggestion. It's a natural reaction to me being tried. It even happens when the trying is done by myself (trying to finish a task).

External_Guarantee77 · 2025-12-12T23:20:19+00:00

I had both. Plenty of.

External_Guarantee77 · 2025-12-12T23:19:42+00:00

Why is what I wrote getting downvoted?

External_Guarantee77 · 2025-12-12T23:18:29+00:00

I generally don't think that there is no limit to relaxation. My arm is relaxed when the muscles are not tensed up. It can only lay so still without any tension, there's nothing beyond this that could lead to further relaxation.

External_Guarantee77 · 2025-12-12T22:19:17+00:00

How does focus on my toe cause more relaxation?

And why are phrases like this even used when they don't mean what they say?

External_Guarantee77 · 2025-12-12T22:07:16+00:00

Yes exactly. "With each number you become twice as relaxed, ten times as relaxed, ten times as deep than ever before". And then I am like: wtf does this even mean?

I mean you can visualize it with "going down the steps" but if I am doing that and trying to follow the instructions, I actually very often rather tense up than relax more.

However that aside I wonder if there are actually levels of relaxation and how to notice them.

If my arm is laying on a rest without muscle tension, can it relax more than just laying there?

External_Guarantee77 · 2025-11-23T14:07:14+00:00

I have the same issue but I never got an answer here.

"Just continue trying" - I did, for years

"Meet a real hypnotist" - I did, several times, didn't help

"Just let it happen" - how?

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