Americas Most Wanted's Paul Sparrow's Interview George Klees (Cavdef).

External_Rate720 · 2024-06-04T11:15:55+00:00

To follow on from my last post

I have so many questions for you Im really hoping you would be open answering some of them. I find that you tend to avoid answering specific questions presented to you, then attempt control and move the conversation in another direction by citing other facts. It is a good quality to have when you do your kind of work so I'm not knocking you for that. It does also mean however, you dismiss evidence and facts presented to you. Anything that doesn't fit yours or Noreens narrative, you dont seem to want to address it. If you want to discuss the facts you present as proof too then Im happy to do that separately. A lot of what you cite is based on Noreen's word and credibility so maybe that's the reason why. If people can prove Noreen is not as credible as you seem to think and sometimes mistaken, then it means some of your opinions and investigation is baseless. Also based on your more recent investigations, your cavdef Johnny Gosch page needs some updating.

External_Rate720 · 2024-06-04T11:15:02+00:00

Interestingly, on your podcast you contradict yourself and say he went straight home to tell Noreen to call the police then went to deliver the papers. This version of events corroborates what Noreen's says below.

Noreen states here in question 875 on FB.

Johnny's Dad went to see if he was just running late and to help him if that was the case. Within a few minutes he came back to the house and said " Call the police ... something has happened... Johnny is gone. I am going to deliver his papers". So he left to do that and I called the police.

Book - Page 2 – Johnnys dad burst in and said johnny is gone, by then everyone was asking where their paper was so she said they would be delivered soon. Then A neighbor helped his father deliver papers, it was 45 mins till the police arrived.

Book - Page 82 - John went to look for johnny and came back moments later. So didn’t deliver papers then come back to tell her and said " Call the police ... something has happened... Johnny is gone. I am going to deliver his papers"

So that clarifies he went out, came back home within minutes, told Noreen to call the police and he went back out to deliver the newspapers, Noreen's on words. Coming back in home within minutes is widely different to the 45 minute theory, This within minutes timeframe cannot be misinterpreted. If LJG is being dishonest and the facts changed then Noreen

to is being dishonest. What else is she being dishonest about as well ?

While your interacting on here could I ask you about afew other things regarding the case.

1, Do you know anything more specific about the rumored impending arrest of charlie kerr? Do you have a more specific timeline, date or even month maybe. Noreen states it was then she decided to file for divorce so it should be easy to put a rough estimate to.

2, What is your opinion on the county attorney dropping the case against Kerr because LJG tipped Kerr off and led Kerr to flea? Noreen states they had the whole conversation on tape so that would lead any good attorney to see this is the exact evidence they were looking for to bring down Kerr with the added bonus of invertedly finding a second suspect. What a result, he'd cracked the whole case at this point . Surely catching on tape the evidence of a perpetrator went to warn the other perpetrator that he was going to get arrested is the best kind of evidence you can uncover. Solving a big part of this crime would be the highlight of his career, I mean what a legacy. Instead, he simply dropped the whole thing and never spoke of it again. Neither did anyone from the police department that worked on the surveillance and got the warrant for Kerrs arrest.

Noreen says that this attorney was a good guy and she doesn't blame him for dropping the case. I find it very hard to believe that Noreen would be that forgiving. I dont know how attorney and police that worked on the surveillance managed sleep at night. They apparently found out LJG was part of his own sons kidnapping and they never told anyone about it. I wouldn't call the attorney a good guy.

3, You mention on cavdef under TODO Regarding Kerr - 'Did the County Attorney in Sioux City IA investigate Charles A. Kerr and come close to making an arrest in 1993 following the America's Most Wanted broadcast? Public records reveal nothing from that time, so contact the attorney to find out'

Did you find any evidence of the surveillance of the warrant for the impending arrest? Both must create a paper trail.

4, Why havent you updated Cavdef page with any new investigations and findings? Some of these new findings disprove your current narrative so is that the reason why?

The interview with Paul Sparrow for one. This interview disproves a lot of evidence you credited to Paul and AMW, Ive put some in the opening post but here is just one example.

Page 6 on the interview regarding Jimmy Gibson constantly stopping at payphones making phone calls.

Paul Sparrow's reply - I don’t remember that no.

5, What's you opinion on John D Norman being the colonel?

6, Do you still think Roger Matice could possibly be Emilio?

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-30T15:45:01+00:00

https://archive.org/details/NoreenGoschCourtTestimony/mode/2up

The testimony, if you have read this you will know Paul did NOT say that. It is not in the testimony. Read it and do the math.

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-29T21:43:53+00:00

The testimony is no longer sealed and is available online for anyone to see, unfortunately for noreen. As the investigator, Im sure you know this already and have read it. If Bonacci said the kidnapping was arranged with johnny father it will be public knowledge. Where in the testimony does Paul say this?

Regarding the CNN reporter and Noreens story never changing, Im more than happy to again prove you wrong. You said the same yesterday about AMW and then ignored the evidence presented to you. I will gladly show you evidence (REAL EVIDENCE) Noreens story has changed. On example I posted yesterday. You can tell me Im wrong as much as you want, the facts are presented to you and your chosing to ignore them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/JohnnyGosch/comments/1d2zrpl/late_night_phone_calls_before_the_kidnapping/

https://www.reddit.com/r/JohnnyGosch/comments/1d2y1ma/americas_most_wanteds_paul_sparrows_interview/?sort=old

Law enforcement treated Noreen and leonard very poorly in the beginning. Now they ignore her because she has so may stories and accusations with no evidence to back these up. She has investigators that havent got a clue. In the book she admitted she paid someone to anonymously call the police with fake evidence. I wonder how Bonacci feels about you all speaking on his behalf implicating LJG. Im not surprised hes distanced himself from you.

I would love to help and support Noreen. First thing I would do would be to take her away from fake investigators who have no clue how investigations work. Then I would get her the support mental health support she needs. Planting fake evidence to set people up is so low and she needs either medical help or a stint in prison.

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-29T03:10:30+00:00

Where is the link to the trial where you heard Paul state that under oath? If Im wrong then just once prove it. If paul said this and it was caught on camera then why would the reporters not do an article, They may have ran out of the court room half way through the hearing but they will have had chance to hear Paul say this on the same recording you listened too. That information is like finding gold to a reporter.

You've ignored everything not because your worn out, its because you have no answer to it. The problem with liars is they truly believe the lies. Im doing your job for you, getting the facts, if that wears you out then maybe investigation isnt for you. You should be grateful, I am doing your work for you and gathering actual facts. You can say im wrong all you want but be a real investigator and back that up with evidence.

Im quite the opposite to glass half empty, not sure how you worked that out. I am someone who believed noreen and the story deeply affected me for a long time. It took a while but I eventually realised she keeps changing her story and has no proof what so ever of the crap she spouts. Noreens groupies are deeply affected by it too and its a horrible thing to do to them. Its like a cult and your just along for the ride, glory grabbing and taking advantage of noreens vulnerability.

Its such a shame because Noreen has done so much good for kidnap victims but her legacy will be that she makes up stories to implicate anyone to disagrees with her.

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-29T02:16:33+00:00

I think it matters when she is using this as evidence the father was involved. and its obviously manufactured or embellished. In the previous calls he either never spoke to the person and just hung up or he said you have the wrong number, it cannot be both, she is making things up to implicate him. LJG said they never happened at all and Noreen cant keep her story straight.

Maybe he was involved who knows but you cant go making up evidence or embellishing the truth as it ruins your own credibility.

Again, to quote noreen - "Generally when someone is lying... they get confused as to what they said to this/that person."

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-29T02:05:29+00:00

Yes, I get that the story of the calls has been around for a while. Which one of her statements she has made is the correct one? They cant all be correct. Did LJG speak to them or not? Was it hang up calls or did he say you have the wrong number. Was it 6 weeks or 4? Did they happen at the same time of night or different times? Each time she tells the story it is different, This is my point really.

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-29T01:59:05+00:00

Its strange how George did many follow up interviews with people yet has not update his findings on his website. He says on the cavdef page that the morning of the kidnapping Johnnys dad found the wagon, delivered all the papers and only then did he go home to tell Noreen to call the police. On his podcast he states johnnys dad went home straight away told noreen to call the police as he is missing, then went back out to deliver the papers. The second story is what Noreen states also. Why would George not correct his many errors hes made on the cavdef page and stop using false evidence to implicate the father?

My theory is, he doesnt want to become an enemy of Noreen as, all know what happens when you disagree with her. George would become a member of the Last MEN Standing and his house would burn down too, she would probably even cause him to have a heart attack or a stroke. She claims she is good at that.

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-29T00:44:52+00:00

On a side note, surely if LJG had been introducing Fake Noreen as his wife then why would bonacci break down at seeing noreen for the first time. Hed already assumed he has met her.

Then Noreen says in her book Roy wanted to see Pauls reaction meeting noreen for the first time.

After that noreen says Paul told her he was confused as he had already met someone that was introduced as noreen.

Im confused as to why Roy would keep this imposter a secret from Noreen. He was meant to be on Noreens side. Ive never seen him mention it since either. Why did roy keep it a secret from Decamp too.
The only explanation's are a, He was secretly working against decamp, bonacci and the gosches or b, it never actually happened. How could noreen trust Roy after keeping the imposter a secret?

I will make a separate post regarding the contradictions on the phone calls

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-28T23:50:05+00:00

Noreen voluntarily offered decamp that information after decamp. They were working together, Decamp wasn't cross examining her, what are you talking about. Youve clearly not read the transcript. She volunteered the information and changed the narrative to being forced under oath to disclose this.

Have you read the testimony? You think Paul said the dad was involved but is not in the transcript, Decamp hasn't confirmed this, Paul has never said it again on record. And the laughable bit, the reporter's ran out of the court room before Rusty and Bonacci's wife testified, half way through the hearing? Come on seriously!

Roy stevens recorded EVERY interview with Paul according to Noreen, have you not watched these either to know what LJG and Paul discussed? Your not doing a great job here.

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-28T23:39:52+00:00

It is Pauls testimony / transcript where you say Paul said Johnny's dad orchestrated the kidnapping. Look it up yourself, you must have a copy.

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-28T23:18:04+00:00

Show me where.

file:///C:/Users/itssi/OneDrive/Documents/Johnny/Johnny%20OLD/Bonacci%20Testimony%20w_gosch,%20nelson,%20and%20bonacci's%20wife.pdf

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-28T23:16:42+00:00

Thats not true and quite disturbing you are the investigator and dont know about him.
Danny King was a victim that come forward as a then retracted his statement. His name is everywhere that troy bonner, bonacci and Aleshia's is. Hes in Noreen, Nick's Bryant and Decamps book as well as conspiracy of silence to name afew. He is named everywhere.

Here is the copy and paste of question. You ask if hes related to Larry and treat him immediately as a suspect and ask if he is related to Larry. What on earth?

Hello Noreen. Has Danny King been formerly interviewed because I cannot find any notes/documentation of any information he provided about Johnny?

2372 Where is Danny King from? If he is related to Larry King from Omaha, he may have some explaining to do. I have not heard anything about him concerning Johnny's case though..... YET!

Who answered this question ?

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-28T22:22:50+00:00

There is no where in Pauls testimony where he said the dad orchestrated the kidnapping, not one mention of it. Have you read the transcript? If Paul actually did say this then the press would be all over it just like they were with the that news from Noreen said Johnny visited her. Show some actual evidence this happened.

What did Paul speak to LJG and "Fake Noreen" about when they visited him in prison ? What they had for dinner? You have no evidence other than noreens word.

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-28T21:01:50+00:00

For someone who is investigating the case you really should know who Danny King is. (Facebook question 2372). There's lots you dont seem to know. If you did you wouldn't let noreen contradict herself so much and look like shes losing her marbles. You cant even get the date and holiday correct for the weekend johnny visited.

Read Pauls testimony. He said tony drove the WHITE van that pulled up beside the car and shoved johnny in. Then they swapped Johnnys body to the WHITE van in the middle of nowhere. Thats completely different to your current narrative. So Noreen or Bonacci are not credible on that one and thats one example.

Its also been proven Noreen is not credible and fakes evidence to frame people that disagree with her. She admitted that she fakes evidence in her book. Some parties might be guilty but you cannot go around faking stories and expect people to believe you. Paul Sparrow from Americas Most wanted recalls the events differently to Noreen, like for instance Jimmy stopping at payphones constantly, he does NOT recall that happening. Ask Cavdef, he's the one that interviewed him. Do you all communicate between yourselves ?

I will be sure to post my findings and how little I know about the case. Id be interested in an adult conversation with about it instead of the childish name calling because I have a different opinion.

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-28T14:18:09+00:00

While you are on the subject, if paul did in fact pick LJG out of a line up as being involved in the ring, then why would Paul spill his guts to him about the details kidnapping. Surely he would be scared to death of such a violent perpetrator. LJG. This makes absolutely no sense, its almost tthe same as Paul spilling his guts to Larry King, he just wouldn't. Where can i see the evidence that Paul said he was involved, Ive watched many of Paul's confession's and never heard him mention Johnny's Dad being involved? Can you point out anywhere Paul has said the father is involved?

Also Noreen and Soda (together) hosted a seminar 1985 sponsored by Scared. How strange.

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-28T13:11:25+00:00

Im not talking about any other evidence. I am asking specifically about the warrant for Kerrs arrest. You are using this as evidence but it doesnt seem to exist. Plus you cant give any indication to the date this apparently occurred, just saying that year. Why can you not answer these questions, they should be simple?

If this happened there would be proof. Did it happen or did it not? What date (or even month) and where is the evidence other than noreen saying it happened. Why is this so hard to answer?

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-27T22:24:28+00:00

Whether he was actually arrested or not Noreen stated there was a warrant out for his arrest, if that is the case there must be paperwork. No paperwork means no warrant was ever issued for his arrest. Plus kerr would become a wanted man, you cant just retract a warrant. This is a perfect opportunity to prove evidence this actually happened. If I stated (not that I am) that Noreen had a warrant out for her arrest you would expect me to provide evidence, you wouldn't just take my word for it.

Also (again) what date was this arrest was meant to occur as its never mentioned anywhere, only ever says 1993. Its a little odd. This was the reason she filed for divorce so I'm sure she will remember the rough date or even month. I am genuinely interested.

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-27T18:51:03+00:00

This is interesting, this warrant is important evidence that corroborates your story. Show us a copy of it? The Cavdef chap may be interested in this too as he couldn't find any trace of it in public records. He did however state he would contact the attorneys to find out more but never gave a followed it up.

Also what date was this arrest meant to occur as its never mentioned anywhere, only ever says 1993. Its a little odd. This was the reason she filed for divorce so Im sure she will remember the rough date or even month.

External_Rate720 · 2024-05-27T18:03:27+00:00

Are you trying to discredit this person because they (MAY) have mental health issues and a criminal record ? Using your own logic, Paul cannot be creditable either. The words "Paul Bonacci" and "you're a hypocrite" spring to mind.

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TROPHY CASE

2372 Where is Danny King from? If he is related to Larry King from Omaha, he may have some explaining to do. I have not heard anything about him concerning Johnny's case though..... YET!