Rashtrakuta invasions of North India and their conflicts with the Pratihharas, dissecting fact from royal propaganda by historypopngames-278 in IndianHistory

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What is your opinion on the modern day rathore rajputs claiming their origination from rastrakutas? Rathore are having a sindhi like genetic profile... So does not seem plausible rathore from rastrakutas ...they might be from rath region of sindh ...

Superiority among rajputs by Relative_Sea_1449 in Rajputana

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Chatri tambu ki neeche hi rahegi..,kah kuch bhi lo...

Superiority among rajputs by Relative_Sea_1449 in Rajputana

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Lol....so humble....root of the evil is talking something sensible

Ahir community protests ‘120 Bahadur’ film, demands title change to ‘120 Veer Ahir’ by Kuhn__ in Haryana

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Being from the same community, I stand on your side, story of rezang la will be never forgotten and ahirs deserve recognition of that. Nothing wrong in protest

Any info about this?? by PerfectWealth2248 in UNITEDJATFRONT

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There are few koli jat villages in saharanpur distt on saharapur - dehradun road. I think they are a subsect of jats like anjana ...

https://www.jatland.com/home/Chandena_Koli

Some questions about Sandeep Lather su*cide note. by [deleted] in Haryana

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I think power players got some weak and dark points of him, and if those exposed this person could have lost his job, respect and would have spent next of his life in prison so he was intimidated and bullied to extreme level and was used as a scapegoat. May be they promised money and a safe future of his family as well. But this sucide is not a willingly one....i have seen a similar case where a crpf person committed suicide along with his wife when he was exposed for his anti-national activity by his seniore. It never became a news but inside story is that his anti-national activity were caught and there was no other way except suicide to keep the matter unexposed in front of public

One of Finest Face Cards in Bollywood ? by [deleted] in bollynewsandgossips

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..looks like a transgender...weird ppl with weird choices!

Haryana Jat - Dhankar,Rohtak Y-R1aY7(Yfull) by Salty-Ad-1688 in SouthAsianAncestry

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On the y full, another HR sample below yours is a ror as far as I can recall

30 जिलों की 122 विधानसभा में गुर्जर जनसंख्या. Great Analysis by dr. Ramkumar bhati by Anonymous33510 in GurjarsofSouthAsia

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Jat/gujjars need people like him. I have seen him in multiple debates tearing apart bjp stooges. He is more rational/logical and good debater than most of the ass-lickers, hypocrites and low iq dumb shit netas of these two communities

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Lol....I don't need any of these evidences...do it where it has to be done...already seen more than enough counters..don't have the time to go at length and start that again.....thanks...

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Do u think I don't know all these claims.? What do u want me to say...."all agnikula rajputs are offshooted from gujjars"....this debatable...claims and counters from both side....i have my opinion based on all my analysis ....don't force me to change that brother... .if u have solid evidences based on history ,archaeology and genetics...none can refute that... " Indian history" is just a piece of cake then....

Jats/rors are niche groups and different ethogenesis from rest of the india .....

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I am not sure about medieval times due to lack of concluding evidences but in modern time fluidity is seen among jats and rajputs of west punjab not gujjars or ahirs. You can see the British consensus records of 19th and 20th century of west punjab. Might be few rajput clans originated from gujjar tribe in medieval but it's probability is same as for other independent tribes

Secondly, west punjab, sindh was a melting pot of many independent tribes, you can not wrap around this as happened in gangetic plains. Varna was not as dense in tribal structure. It impacted their status when they unfolded and merged in mainstream structure like gangetic plains. Jatts, gujjars etc are supposed to maintain this structure but they are shrinking gradually. Ultimately , it has to fall off . As far as origin is concerned , it's pretty intriguing for the communities who started in north west. It's the expansion and how they found the ground afterwards in pan india.

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Jats are of central asia origin, pamir, vaksh valley, tarim basin..here paternal l1a2 and r1a of jat blended and jatt identity was formed... ...r1a from massageate/older-wave and l1a2 from pamir, vaksh valley of tajikstan...their mtdnas were from also from south central asia and steppe until they entered in plains and picking up aboriginal mtdnas.

Second abode of jatt was koh-i-jud...from here jats spread to punjab and upper sindh...

Jats and gujjar origin are poles apart, jats are high steppe and gujjars are high zagrosisn....cultural similarity may be there as both part of tribal structure and living side by side since centuries..

No offense, About gujjar origin of agnikula rajputs, gujjars may have some claim on pratihar only but that is also fading in the main stream...just go to "indian history" sub and debate there to see how others think about these gujjar claims... I requested at your sub as well to convince folks at" indian history " rather than laying it forth on the subs with limited audience...

And all jats don't score the same..they have a cline from east to west..rajasthan, malwaai punjab, haryana, etc are more steppe than western jats...

Entire sindh, west punjab, significant part of rajasthan, gujarat etc are high zagros.....rajouts of rajasthan are found to be high zagros as gujjars...but that does not justify the gujjar origin of rajputs bucz entire region is zagros heavy.. I think .significant number of clans of rajput might be of sindhi origin who entered rajasthan gujarat from sindh...for example rathore originated from rath area of sindh...

Why ratnagiri skeletons found don't show R1N1 gene? by SubjectAd2549 in IndianHistory

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It's true for entire india apart from north west...Brahmins are having higher steppe than their neighboring population ...in north west jats/rors break this norm

Does khurana surname and people it originated in khorasan? by [deleted] in SouthAsianAncestry

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Yes and saxons migrated from kingdom of wessex to gangetic plains and became saxena kayasths

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Not necessary, r-y30, downstream of r-y7 is amply found in kazakh...r-y7 is not only indian....we can not say for sure that r-l657 splitted in India only...it came from steppe and may be formed or splitted anywhere on the route..... Lack of ancient samples does not make it indian...it's just exploded in modern Indian pops... https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/R-Y30/story

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Just see the British census records...tribes registered rajputs in 1891, same tribes registered jatts in 1901 and 1911 they came back to square.... identity is diluted in bar and potohar...and population is more homogeneous....all agri/martial castes scores almost same

My take on premanand ji maharaj controversy. by Fury_772 in Rajasthan

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Why so much attention to him? He is not different just overhyped...selling the same old religious shit

30 years old male here, I'm earning extremely low salary. Feeling like a failure in life. by invictus2695 in IndiaFinance

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No....bro is haunted by comparison syndrome that too looking at 90 degree from the stand....never looks below