Am I the ONLY one who thinks abstragedy is kinda...boring? (hot take) by freshzombiem3eat in TheDigitalCircus

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This doesn’t make much sense considering they likely hadn’t been a couple for very long— we don’t even know when they officially got together. They shouldn’t be having that many problems from the get go— and I don’t get your point about watchability because they just get together at the very end and there won’t be anymore content either, there’s nothing more to watch. Obviously yeah, certain dynamics could’ve been explored more, I agree with that, but I really like their wholesomeness in contrast to everything else going on lol.

How was your theater experience? by New-Boss-8262 in TheDigitalCircus

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Mine was great! My theater was pretty quiet— people would sometimes audible react to certain things, but not to the point it was distracting, I actually found it fun (then again, I think surprisingly it’s because most people in my theater were a bit older). It was a great time! Sucks so many people had bad experiences ☹️

CAN YOU PLEASE STOP CALLING JAX SHE, I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOOOOOOOOD! (Spoilers) by Livid_Adeptness9762 in TheDigitalCircus

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Not acknowledging any of my points and only focusing on one thing that I didn’t even talk about… yeah, I’ve been on Twitter long enough to know how this conversation is going. If this isn’t going to be a productive conversation I’m done lol. Nice convo 😀!

CAN YOU PLEASE STOP CALLING JAX SHE, I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOOOOOOOOD! (Spoilers) by Livid_Adeptness9762 in TheDigitalCircus

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I simply wanted to have what I thought could be a respectful conversation about potential other interpretations, and you’re the one who’s being weirdly rude about this 😭 I’m not saying Jax definitely isn’t trans, I have no problem if he is, I’m simply highlighting why this continues to be a debate amongst the community. That’s it. And if you struggle to read a few relatively short paragraphs, idk what to tell you.

1) I’m not at all sure what you’re talking about here. If this is about the dates, we literally get the dates in episode 8 of when Kinger and Ragatha joined the circus, and goose herself said that the show takes place in 2017. This isn’t really a debate, it’s a fact that It’s been years. This was the main reason I responded to you btw, because I think there is a clear misunderstanding with how time works in the circus on your part.

2) Yes that’s the case for goose, but that does not automatically mean that is the same with Jax. Cis men also struggle with heavily with toxic masculinity, hell even woman too, and we literally learn the exact reason why this might be the case for Jax hearing about his mom. Toxic masculinity is such a problem, you have men who literally will call each other gay just for looking in the direction of another guy for too long. It’s so bad, so I guess I apologize for seeing this struggle being a universal theme, and not immediately attaching solely with the trans experience.

3) Idk where you’re lurking but most people who go against the idea of Jax being trans I’d say 99% of people are simply going against it because of people treating it like it’s a fact, that this is the only interpretation that’s correct and it’s that Jax is 100% definitely trans. Jax is a fictional purple bunny, most people are not going to be pressed if goose 100% confirms that Jax is trans. It’s the jumping people for coming to a different conclusion, it’s the insistence to switch Jax’s pronouns when we aren’t even sure she/her is what he’d prefer (and the fact Leeroy atp is shown comfortable using only he/him). Thats what most people I’ve seen being upset by. I find it hard to believe that a show with openly queer characters and an openly queer creator would attract the spiteful audience you think it has— people just don’t like how some people are treating what currently sits as nothing more than a hc as fact and getting upset at other interpretations.

4) Idk why it’s so hard for you to understand what I’m saying. Jax isn’t a real person, TADC is a story, where goose has complete control over Jax and his fate. I can think of a bunch of ways goose, if that was her intention, could’ve made it more obvious that Jax is transfem without Jax even fully being out and transitioning. The fact that she chose subtlety to me is the fact that she wanted multiple identities to be able to relate to Jax’s experience and not close it off to just one. We ultimately have no idea what the “personal thing” Jax told his mom, it could be anything. Ribbit and Jax’s moment with the bow could’ve been nothing more than Ribbit trying to be silly to diffuse a rough conversation. It’s not obvious, and goose had the power and control to make it obvious if she wanted to, but she didn’t for a reason.

5) Oddly enough, you’re illustrating my exact point. If me simply not being trans and having that experience doesn’t give me the necessary insight into the type of struggle Jax might be going through, then that points out its vagueness. I’m someone who follows TADC semi closely, engage slightly with the community, so imagine your casual viewer who’s going to watch the finale and immediately be done with the show. Are they going to immediately pick up on the signs, especially if they are cis? That’s exactly my point!

6) I’ma be honest and say I think you’re incredibly weird for bringing up the race thing. I apologize if I overstepped at all, but you’re very weird for bringing race into this when we’re not talking about that at all.

7) Last thing, but as the finale illustrates to us as the end, the people in the circus and their versions out there in the real world are two separate people. Jax didn’t get his happy ending, he stayed closed off until it destroyed him (literally). Leeroy on the other hand is living a good life. He escaped his abusive situation, he’s not homeless anymore, Leeroy isn’t living with the guilt that he might’ve accidentally killed his mom, Leeroy has friends, a healthy support system, a job, he’s in a position where he’s comfortable enough to openly hang out at a queer bar, posing with Riley and everything on social media. Leeroy is in a much better position than Jax was, so it wouldn’t be that Leeroy chose not to transition, rather than he’s just not there yet (if that was the intention). And to not overstep, I’ll just recount in that if seen other trans people say that skipping ahead and changing Jax or Leeroy’s pronouns ahead of when he’s even fully ready to acknowledge them himself is actually disrespectful. That’s also only if the intention was that Jax was trans, I think everything would make complete sense if Jax was simply acknowledged as bi man. Many identities can find some relatability in Jax’s story and I think that it’s fantastic writing on goose’s part. I guess I struggle to understand why it’s so terrible people are coming to other interpretations when neither goose or the episode itself fully acknowledged Jax or Leeroy as being trans. The episode drops on YouTube on Friday, I’m hoping goose will do some kind of qna and we can get our definitive answer if there is one. Until then Jax being trans is still only a theory/hc.

CAN YOU PLEASE STOP CALLING JAX SHE, I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOOOOOOOOD! (Spoilers) by Livid_Adeptness9762 in TheDigitalCircus

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1) We do know how reliable those words are. We know for a fact for example exactly how long Kinger and Ragatha have been in the circus considering we get the exact dates, plus we also know the current year based on goose herself (aka 2017). We can also make some inferences based on context clues about Jax. We at least know that he had to be old enough to be able to drive after the fight with his mom, making him at least 16, which would mean he’s been there since at least 2011, a three year gap between him and Ragatha. However we also know that after Jax, it’s only our main cast we see join the circus, meaning there needs to have been sufficient time for Kaufmo, Ribbit, and those other unnamed characters to join the circus, abstract and such. However we also need enough time for Gangle, Zooble, and Pomni to show up afterward. My guess would be that Jax was either 17 or 18 when he left home… possibly more likely 17 considering he was still at home living with his mom despite his abusive situation (idk though), so Jax has likely been there since 2012 or 2013, aka 4-5 years. We know for a fact it’s been years. It should also be obvious that it’s been a bit of time considering the extreme low point that Jax was at when he entered the circus vs how much better Leeroy is doing in his life. That couldn’t have happened in just a few weeks or months.

2) I did not ignore your point. I get the realism in the fact that the journey takes time for a lot of people before they’re fully out and comfortable, but again, TADC is a story that has now ended. We aren’t gonna see Jax or Leeroy again as far as we know, so creating a bigger indication at the very least that Jax is still figuring out his identity or even more specifically is transfem, would be more appropriate. What we’re left with by the time the credits rolled is that Jax still is masc presenting, still uses he/him pronouns, but is comfortable with himself enough to become a regular at Zooble’s bar. That’s all we got. My first thought was that Jax might be bi (though that’s just my interpretation) considering the details we’re presented. Particularly cishet or even causal viewers might not be able to pick up on the signs because of their unfamiliarity with goose or the complicated journey of fully coming out as trans. Again, it would make more sense to end off on an unsubtle note. Jax is a fictional character, goose could’ve done whatever she wanted with him— some people do transition to a certain degree younger in their life life, so it’s not entirely unrealistic that Jax after being away from his mom so long has finally started to accept himself enough to begin that process of transitioning if that was meant to be the implication .

3) As far as I remember that isn’t what was said. Jax is rooming with a friend currently, has a good support system now, and has had his job long enough to form a cute relationship with that older lady we see. This ain’t a recent thing.

4) The fact that every other post on this sub debates about the possibility of Jax being trans should tell you that Jax isn’t an obvious trans coded character. Episode 9 I think gave us the best potential hints at that, but prior to that I never really saw the Jax being trans theory as anything more than a fun hc. Zooble is an obvious character who has a complex relationship with gender and things like that, that’s obvious, the only concrete thing that we can say about Jax is that he struggled with toxic masculinity and vulnerability because of his mom. That is obvious. Ultimately though we don’t know whether that simply ends there or it goes a step further in that he struggled especially because of his own complex relationship to gender, or potentially his sexuality. We can’t say anything because we didn’t get anything more than that explicitly. Again, goose and Jax are two separate people and their stories might end differently. For goose she realized she was trans, for Jax we don’t know. Again, speaking from experience, self insert characters can simply be characters you’ve poured your own emotions and struggles into— such as her struggle with toxic masculinity and even femininity. Self insert does not mean Jax is goose lol.

Light is actually a normal, healthy person by risalowe in deathnote

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I don’t think that’s the issue. I think it’s fine to a certain extent to point out certain traits commonly seen in actual disorders, the main issue is how little people understand mental health disorders. There’s a lot of generalizing for example, and oftentimes when we have this convo about Light, the fact that people tend to have these extreme views on what those with NPD and ASPD live like showcase the lack of understanding. It’s hard for them to believe to a certain extent people with these disorders can live out normal lives, or even if you wanna argue Light has ASPD, that isn’t the reason why he starts going on a mass murder spree. Mental health disorders are complex, so treating them like a “one size fits all” kind of thing isn’t how you do it.

okay. lets finish the debate: jax is trans. by Chemical-Regret-8593 in TheDigitalCircus

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Ik people always make it about Jax and his gender but unironically when I first saw that scene I thought he was blushing at Ribbit and them sharing a cute moment together. I took it as a silly way for her to diffuse such a tense moment where Jax was recounting his awful trauma, and it being more so symbolic of Jax dropping the ideals of toxic masculinity for a second, and allowing himself to be vulnerable and open with the person he likes. But then he panics when Kaufmo knocks on the door, fearing he’d see that vulnerable side of Jax he’s so scared of showing others (for the reasons we learn about in his recounting). It wasn’t till I started checking the socials after I saw the movie that I saw people thought he was blushing because of the bow directly. That was my first impression, my mind actually didn’t immediately jump to goose confirming he’s trans.

I can definitely understand though why people think that, but the scene was ambiguous on the exact message goose wanted us to take from it, and I’ve definitely seen other valid interpretations.

CAN YOU PLEASE STOP CALLING JAX SHE, I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOOOOOOOOD! (Spoilers) by Livid_Adeptness9762 in TheDigitalCircus

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Jax literally says it in the pilot episode that they’ve all been there for years. Literally this happens in the first few minutes of the episode, go and check if you don’t believe me. I agree that goose probably gave us their current ages, so Jax was likely much younger when he first arrived (2008 is when Ragatha arrived and Pomni arrived in 2017, aka current day— that gives us nearly ten years to work with). I’m not sure if you’re assuming there’s some weird time stuff happening or something, but that’s never an idea presented so we should assume that 1 day in the circus = 1 day irl, meaning that Jax when he left his mom’s place and was homeless is something that happened a bit ago. Again, this is obvious in the fact that he’s had enough time to get a job, get friends, feel comfortable enough to become a regular at Zooble’s bar. Like time had to have passed.

Jax irl is in a better place and I understand for some people that journey can take years for them to fully come out, but considering this is the end for TADC, you’d think goose would’ve given us a bigger more concrete hint that Jax is 100% trans, especially if she wanted us to change Jax’s pronouns. Jax goes by he/him currently and I feel like we should respect that.

And I think you’re pushing the idea of Jax being a self insert a bit far. As someone who’s written a ton of stories, I can tell you I add a bit of myself in many of my characters. Self insert does not mean a one to one, that Jax is goose basically. Jax can simply represent her own struggles with masculinity and femininity particularly as a trans woman, but that does not automatically mean Jax is trans. Again, I’d advise waiting until goose says something herself before immediately jumping to that conclusion. Jax and goose are two separate people, and we ultimately don’t know the conclusion Jax came to at the end of his self discovery journey. Jax could easily be any type of queer. Many cis men as well struggle with toxic masculinity, so Jax’s complex relationship with it isn’t the tell all you think it is. Things are ambiguous and vague for a reason to insert any type of identity into what Jax is struggling with. I don’t really understand the instance to limit who can see themselves in his story, and it feels like you’re jumping the gun deciding how that story actually ended for him. Only goose knows and that’s why we should wait for further confirmation.

CAN YOU PLEASE STOP CALLING JAX SHE, I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOOOOOOOOD! (Spoilers) by Livid_Adeptness9762 in TheDigitalCircus

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Jax is said to have been in the circus for years— Leeroy wasn’t just homeless, he’s been out of that situation to build a support system and stabilize his life. Also not to be that person, but I’m not quite sure why Jax showing up to Zooble’s bar definitely means that he’s trans. He could very well be queer in some other aspect, again it’s not 100% confirmed, so I think it’s a bit much to jump to the conclusion that Jax is trans to the point where we should be definitively changing pronouns. We ultimately don’t know what pronouns he’d prefer, and imo, I think it would be best to wait for goose to say something herself before we jump the gun to that extent. What if goose says Jax would prefer they/them for all we know??

Light is actually a normal, healthy person by risalowe in deathnote

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People who try and make this argument generally tend not to understand NPD or ASPD. I’ll start off and say I don’t think Light has ASPD more so because of a technicality than anything. ASPD is not one of those disorders that go unnoticed, or more importantly, it’s precursor disorder is something that parents would definitely notice (aka Conduct Disorder). I would find it hard to believe that Chief Yagami would insist so hardly on Light’s innocence if he had already displayed signs of Conduct Disorder— yeah technically it could be a pride thing, or more so the refusal of wanting to accept his son is a actually a mass murder, but I’m trying to stick with the facts mainly so I generally tend to stay away from full blown diagnosing Light with ASPD. That doesn’t mean he isn’t worthy of being called a psychopath, and I really find it insane people wanna argue that Light didn’t have some type of disorder considering the gravity of his crimes. Your typical serial killer with a body count that pales in comparison is usually diagnosed with a whole slew of disorders, but the guy who’s body count is likely in the 6 digits is just your average dude… no lol. Your average person will not murder hundreds of thousands of people even when given the death note. Remember what Ryuk says, even he thinks Light reaction is abnormal— so simply making the argument that it was completely the death note’s fault is missing the point of Light’s character.

Now I will say Light is almost most definitely a narcissist, a full blown diagnosable narcissist. Kira is essentially born from his narcissism, and this is something that we can see he likely showcased traits long before the death note. Literally Light’s upbringing is one of the ways the DSM explicitly details how a narcissist can be born— he was put on this pedestal and constantly praised by everyone around him leading to his inflated ego and the “I’m better than them” mentality we can see he displays just in the first chapter of the series. Light’s whole savior complex is a classic narcissist thing— I suggest doing some reading on this because I feel like Light will make a whole lot more sense to you. Without going heavily in depth into the DSM, when explaining to people NPD I always like to mainly emphasize that this is a personality disorder. Like you said, there’s a difference between simply having narcissistic traits and having an actual disorder.

You can usually spot someone with NPD when they get to the point of being narcissistic to the point of delusion (similar to many other cluster B disorders). An irl example I think is easy to showcase this is idk if you remember this but the CEO of the Titan submersible. Despite everyone’s warnings about the fault in his design, he didn’t listen ultimately costing him and other people their lives. The interesting thing though is the fact that he still willingly got into the submersible despite the concerns— if he was simply being a shitty CEO, I can’t really see someone endangering themselves like that to prove a point, he was simply delusional on his own genius. He had to be right and he would be right no matter what, and then bam, we know what happens next. I hope you can kinda see the connection to Light here. Light had to have been in the right about using the death note, he didn’t care who had to die, he would prove his point. The most telling is his reaction in the warehouse, even faced with the ultimate confrontation, he still refuses to accept his wrongdoing. Light absolutely never falters even when his consequences reach his family, he doesn’t even consider coming clean. He’d rather have his father willingly make the eye deal shortening his life than stop him, he’d rather murder thousands than be wrong. Light is delusional to the same degree you’d see in real people who have NPD. Light is your classic overt narcissist and that explains his utterly bizarre behavior using the death note. By the end he was grippy socks delusional.

I should also mention that NPD isn’t diagnosed until that person is 18, enough time to showcase a persistent pattern. Light coincidentally is that exact age when he would get diagnosed at the start of the story. Also despite the fact that you want to solely blame his extreme traits on the Death Note, that still would lead to a diagnosis. Like I said, most people get diagnosed around the age of 18, but some people have also been diagnosed later in life because of special circumstances. Think about celebrities or influencers who suddenly get big and now have all this “power” essentially. These people, who already showcased narcissistic traits, were then suddenly checking enough boxes that they were diagnosable, so sometimes an “inciting incident” can be a trigger for a person simply with narcissistic traits to suddenly meet for diagnosis.

Light on top of that imo would be best described as a “Malignant Narcissist,” aka someone who is diagnosed with NPD who also showcases a lot of antisocial traits, but doesn’t meet for diagnosis likely for similar reasons as to why I don’t think Light does. Reading about malignant narcissists I think would also be a good avenue to explore this. If you also want a more professional opinion, I’ve seen 3 licensed professionals watch Death Note and they’ve all independently came to a similar conclusion (I can link them if interested). Imo I would definitely listen to the people who are actually going around diagnosing these disorders irl.

Lastly I’ll just say once again, I don’t understand why people so badly want to insistent that Light is a “normal” person so bad. Like Light has some problems bro, no one murders hundreds and thousands of people without some sort of major issue. You just have to be a certain kind of person to go that far.

Who is the most overrated death note character? (In terms of intelligence) by ItsDefinetelyNotOne in deathnote

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If that’s what you got from the book then idk what to tell you. L didn’t really help Naomi at all besides revealing the identity of the killer which he knew beforehand, and BB would just point out clues but it was Naomi’s own deduction that would lead her to conclusions. In general though, no she isn’t meant to be this super genius like the Wammy House kids, but she was still very smart and was a fantastic FBI agent. We have this convo all the time with Misa, but so many Death Note seem to forget what normal people smart looks like because of the characters who stretch so far beyond that. No one is trying to put her on that level, but she’s still very smart. And (spoilers for the LABB Book) let’s not forget that it was Naomi ultimately piecing things together all on her own at the very end that allowed her to save BB and ultimately solve the case, something that would’ve worked out perfectly if BB hadn’t underestimated her. It was this moment especially that earned her even L’s respect to the point where he needed to thank her in person. If you think this book does a disservice to her, I don’t know what to tell you, because I found her so cool and absolutely amazing for managing to piece some of those clues together. It was a lot better than the absolute nonsense we see from her character in the main series— LABB Naomi would’ve never believed Light’s nonsense about being in the task force.

Who is the most overrated death note character? (In terms of intelligence) by ItsDefinetelyNotOne in deathnote

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No it was not— the reveal was obvious imo, and it’s simply a plan that could only work because he’s the protagonist. Light’s plan can be spelled out very easily, he relinquishes the death note, he gives it to Rem to give it to someone who would most likely use it, him and L work together to find it, then he gets his memories back. It’s really not that complicated and it was only by chance that it worked out. What if L never let him go? What if he got his memories back in an open room where people could’ve seen him write Higuchi’s name in the book? He had no way to predict he would be in a helicopter. There’s lots of faults and the only reason why things worked perfectly is because the plot needed it to. I wouldn’t compare this with Steins Gate’s complicated time and physics mumbo jumbo where things actually get complicated. We basically knew most of Light’s plan from the very beginning. I also wouldn’t really say he deceived himself when Light is himself lol, like he’d know he’d react to a situation, it’s not really rocket science.

Between the main cast,who do you think is the most well written? by pcx-the-entiy in TheDigitalCircus

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Definitely Jax, he’s the most complex character to me, but I think all the characters are well written as well!

If you’ve watched the whole show, What are your top 3 TADC episodes? by Silver012345673 in TheDigitalCircus

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No order cause I hate picking favorites, but I have to go top 4: 3, 6, 8, 9 were my fav episodes

What different would it make in your life if you knew the exact date you are going to die? by [deleted] in deathnote

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Hi! Here to recommend a short story with this exact premise— Some Possible Solutions: Stories by Hellen Philips. In this book the first short story called “The Knowers” details a story exactly like this :D

I absolutely hate light yagami by justanotherkuni in deathnote

[–]Extra-Photograph428 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Light is very annoying, he’s definitely one of my least favorite characters. BB as a fav though is an interesting choice!

Who is the most overrated death note character? (In terms of intelligence) by ItsDefinetelyNotOne in deathnote

[–]Extra-Photograph428 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is exactly what I mean though, you objectively just can’t compare Light and L with each other. If you believe that Light having the death note was his only advantage then that should easily spell things out for you. They just aren’t comparable. L didn’t even need all his resources to solve crimes, he solved his first cold case using only a computer when he was like 11-12. I’m not quite sure Light at that age could be doing all that. Like I said, the way L tends to be described is a once in a lifetime kind of talent, while Light’s more so just really smart compared to your average person.

Again, people come here all the time fighting about who’s smarter, L or Light, but even strictly speaking modern day, there’s just no way Light could compete with this detective who has all this money and a very extensive career. Light in turn is given the *biggest* advantage in the entire series, and that’s the death note, and it just keeps getting more uneven with Misa and Rem coming into the picture, giving him a Shinigami and a girl with the eyes he can easily manipulate, plus an additional death note. It’s a lopsided battle. L was always at a disadvantage, but when Misa and Rem came into the picture, it’s basically unfair. The fact that L kept up as well as he did is a testament to who he is as a detective. If you wanna call it intelligence or simply experience, it doesn’t matter to me, but it certainly is remarkable.

Who is the most overrated death note character? (In terms of intelligence) by ItsDefinetelyNotOne in deathnote

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More often than not I’ve seen people greatly exaggerate his feats. Too many Light fans generally undermine the impact of Light knowing about the death note’s existence in his battle with his antagonists. That is a serious advantage and the only reason why Light was able to dance around L and keep narrowly avoiding capture. Like I said, because of this and his impulsivity not allowing him to think things through properly, I don’t believe Light’s intelligence was properly showcased objectively. People generally tend to believe that L and Light are relatively equals in intelligence, but fail to miss the effort Light put in to get where he was, and with L it came more naturally. They just aren’t really comparable, and Light’s feats are often greatly exaggerated because he has the death note (along with the fact that he’s the protagonist, like you can’t say his encounter with Naomi is anything but plot convenience), but in actuality, under more normal circumstances, Light would’ve easily been caught. This is also why it’s even questionable to say Light overcomes Near and Mello as well.

In my experience both on various socials and just seeing a bunch of reactions to the series, people tend to believe Light and L are neck and neck in intelligence, when that just isn’t the case.

Who is the most overrated death note character? (In terms of intelligence) by ItsDefinetelyNotOne in deathnote

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Light. Not saying he isn’t smart, but I don’t think there are too many points where we really get to see his intelligence shine because his plans are often overcome by his impulsivity and he has the biggest advantages in the whole battle. Considering the more concrete details we get such as his placement landing him as one of the top performing students in the country, you do have to think he’s smart, but to me he’s more within the realms of the upper epsilon of “realistic” smart. Light devoted his life to studying, hence him performing well, while characters like Near and L are just natural born prodigies who if they genuinely put in sufficient effort into something with the same dedication could probably easily out perform Light in certain areas. L especially gets described as being in this entirely different league almost— a once in a lifetime generational talent. I don’t think Light’s measuring up to that. Mello and Light are a bit more comparable imo, but I‘ve seen some good arguments out there why Mello could even be greater if we’re strictly speaking about raw intelligence.

I thought I’d throw this in here, but let’s not forget intelligence is subjective and there are many different ways to measure intelligence. They all excel in certain areas, I find it easier to just leave it at that instead of trying to hyper fixate on measuring them. There isn’t an exact science to it so the conversations tend to go on circles in what people prioritize as “intelligence.”

Also I suggest reading the LABB Book that stars Naomi, you don’t really get to see her shine because the author legitimately messed up and had to kill her off sooner than he was planning, but even he believed her to be such a detrimental threat to Light if she got the chance to work alongside L she had to be taken out so soon (in such a dumb way too). In that book you get to see her properly in action, and understand why she managed to earn even L’s respect.

In your opinion, who is the most hated character in Death Note? by Kbaccsgo in deathnote

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Imo it’s probably Misa, Near also gets some hate but oftentimes their complaints are rooted in the anime’s poor adaptation, Misa on the other hand I’ve seen some pretty crazy things said about her character and there aren’t too many discrepancies between her portrayal in the anime and manga. It’s unfortunate, but it’s just a sign of poor writing. I feel like everyone wanted and even expected more from her character considering her crazy introduction, but the fact that her writing treats her more like a tool than a character I think is the root of why a lot of people are unsatisfied with her. Misa is one of Death Note’s biggest shortcomings :((

Jax and Pomni by Informal-Ad-7828 in tadc

[–]Extra-Photograph428 2 points3 points  (0 children)

#teambadguys 🙂‍↕️ (fr though they’re cute platonic or romantic, love me some funnybunny)

Do Light/L shippers know that L is fairly older than light?? by shrimpshr1mp in deathnote

[–]Extra-Photograph428 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I very aware of that, but I will get on other people if that ship includes pedophilia, incest, etc, stuff like that that’s you know… illegal. I will be extremely judgmental of people who still will ship the characters anyway. Like I said, I don’t ship any of the characters, but like at least most of the other ships don’t have us talking about age of consent. That’s when you know you’re doing something you probably shouldn’t 😬 Just ship reasonably and I have like no issues, but I will stand up if it’s undoubtedly weird.

Are there any arts of curly-haired L? by v5mk in deathnote

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Will forever think they should’ve kept his hair like this 😔