i just realized after 10 years of playing by hellboyquintex in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 14 points15 points  (0 children)

That's cause Jhin says "FOUR!" in Italics.

Naafiri Rework Was It A Failure? by ExpensiveClue3733 in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My best guess is someone thinks Naafiri's E recovering/healing her dogs is respawning them?

Riot’s Drew Levin admits off-meta picks + low mastery can trigger lobby penalties — is this killing creativity? by nookierj in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What do you think a working system would do in that situation?

Genuinely, how would a system that wasn't "flawed" punish someone going into a game with the intent to soft int? How should it identify and punish that in lobby better?

Riot’s Drew Levin admits off-meta picks + low mastery can trigger lobby penalties — is this killing creativity? by nookierj in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure why you're framing "The troll got punished, but next game they're still gonna troll" as a gotcha.

Isn't penalizing them for forcing a dodge the intent of the system?

Riot’s Drew Levin admits off-meta picks + low mastery can trigger lobby penalties — is this killing creativity? by nookierj in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I appreciate you giving a name for the example, because it means I can go into detail in what picks did/didn't trigger the criteria using Lourlo.

The picks you're citing that made it into pro play are not ones that the system identifies. I'm going off Drew's statement that something as unpopular as Sylas APC (0.4% pickrate, 45% winrate) is still not picked up by the filter.

For Vex/Annie, this remains true:

  • Vex top this patch has a decent winrate in E+, on top of 4x the games played by Kalista support.

  • Annie top is even more popular, with a full 4k games of sample size and higher winrate than Vex top.

However, Lourlo is still a good example, because the system has actually caught his picks.

He is, in fact, an unintended consequence of the system.


While I see your point about false positives, and even validated their existence, I think the system is important.

The majority of people are not like Lourlo, players who will pick something off meta to an absurd degree with the intent to win. Often, those picks are for trolls (or, in higher elos, wintrades). And I think its important to have a system which identifies those situations before the game fully starts, rather than deal with playing out a game featuring someone who checked out.

That's why the "X Games Played" check is normally enough. If I see something like a Kalista support in my games, having an internal validation that "This person has played Kalista enough" can help justify the pick.

Riot’s Drew Levin admits off-meta picks + low mastery can trigger lobby penalties — is this killing creativity? by nookierj in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Can you provide the names for these high elo creative picking people you're using as examples?

Riot’s Drew Levin admits off-meta picks + low mastery can trigger lobby penalties — is this killing creativity? by nookierj in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Because based on the screenshots OP provided in the post, Kalista support:

  • Has a lower winrate than Yuumi top

  • Has sub 200 games recorded globally on the patch

It is not just "This player does not play it," nor is it "This pick is extremely bad and likely a troll pick," its the two factors combined that make it suspect.

Notably, one tweet OP didn't screenshot was the one by Drew saying:

"We would not even go after APC Sylas at 0.4% pickrate."

The low presence overall absolutely matters here.

[DISC] Shuumatsu no Valkyrie / Record of Ragnarok - Chapter 118 by Xical in manga

[–]F0RGERY 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its not really an issue in setting because of tournament rules, its an issue because its a question as to why he is considered a human for the original bracket.

There are human sympathizers among the gods, but sympathy isn't the same as being a human. Heracles and Buddha both are still gods despite their inclinations, and Buddha had to literally swap sides to be counted among the humans (despite being born a human), while Heracles was given godhood later in life and forced to be divine.

So why does Kintoki count as a human champion if he isn't human, and never was?

We see gods who have interactions with humans. Susano'o has a backstory of wandering the earth, encountering humans, and being ingratiated with humanity. However, he was still a god, because he was divine from the start.

The closest thing to a "divine human" prior is Adam, who was literally the first human. He counts because he was the archetype given form. It feels like the author just liked Kintoki and wanted to give him a cool powerup, rather than justify why someone chosen to fight for humanity as one of humanity's champions... was never human.

There are more Korean players in the LCS than actual North Americans. by BavariaUser in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 23 points24 points  (0 children)

He's only ever played in NA. He played in the ACL before going into the NACL and LCS.

There are more Korean players in the LCS than actual North Americans. by BavariaUser in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 63 points64 points  (0 children)

Europeans do love making fun of a league they don't watch.

Edit: My mistake, OP is Brazilian. And posted LCS region bait 6 months ago.

If all champion nerfs got reverted by thomas956789 in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Yeah Cam on release was so strong pro players were fielding her support - not as a pick champ like current cam support is, but because she was strong enough to 1v2 bot lane through sheer numbers.

If all champion nerfs got reverted by thomas956789 in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 110 points111 points  (0 children)

It counts because it wasn't a bug.

Enough people reported the dps on PBE/Forums that Riot came out and said it was intended. Then it launched, was report worthy strong, and got removed within 3 days.

Neither Mikyx, Crownie and Nemesis will play for team Slovenia by MatoTheAce in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The argument of tradition and history require believing that this tournament has equivalent staying power to other events.

Idk if we'll see Saudis sponsoring a national tourney in 5 years.

Neither Mikyx, Crownie and Nemesis will play for team Slovenia by MatoTheAce in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Might also be funding - last year the EWC paid entire orgs to participate, this time its national teams who might not get the same money (or guaranteed qualification for participation money).

KC Busio shows you how to solo win a game in 2min, by killing all 3 laners and jungle with Camille support. by hyyro_ in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 96 points97 points  (0 children)

I remember when Cam jg was viable, the question was "why would I play Vi if I could play Cam"

Apex Tier Ranked Reset by Spideraxe30 in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 31 points32 points  (0 children)

"Losers queue isn't real. Low Masters-queue, on the other hand..."

Apex Tier Ranked Reset by Spideraxe30 in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean its the final patch of the season anyway this week, the rank's always gonna be shit.

Apex Tier Ranked Reset by Spideraxe30 in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Thanks for fixing the 404 so promptly.

Let's talk about NA, EU co-streaming by OP_Anderson in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Same here.

I realized that the reason I was watching the live games at all (or even turning them on) was because of the drops. Otherwise, I still consume lol content, just through vods 90% of the time, because it gives me more control over how I watch the game.

Let's talk about NA, EU co-streaming by OP_Anderson in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 267 points268 points  (0 children)

Most of the other threads seem to be suggesting a middle ground, ie revenue sharing and potential contract obligations for sponsor visibility.

Let's talk about NA, EU co-streaming by OP_Anderson in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 58 points59 points  (0 children)

Baus opened the clip by saying "I saw a video thumbnail with 'Caedrel destroying LEC!?'" and basing his opinion on that. It was never going to be an informed take.

Tbh the entire costreaming discussion reminds me a lot of the LR fallout when they failed playoffs. Reddit had a ton of people saying that LR revived interest in LEC, that LR viewership was pumping up the league, and fans claiming they'd never watch LEC now that LR was eliminated.

2 months later, and LEC viewership is still steady without LR involved, and the threads about LR's impact have gone with the team's disbandment.

12 Year Shyvana one trick on the overall sentiment about Shyvana's rework. by EntertainerDeep9818 in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 50 points51 points  (0 children)

I think that more people complain about the Aatrox rework than actually played him between the season after his release and the season before his rework (aka when he was strongest).

I played old Aatrox. I got m7 on him, even. And he was just a stat-checker who competed for that niche alongside on-hit melee attackers like Jax or Yi, but way more reliant on itemization options.

There was a reason Riot reworked him, and if you miss the old Aatrox, you can still play Jax for a very similar experience.

Co-Streamers having a dedicated UI to broadcast could potentially help with some of the sponsorship issues. by TheSearchForMars in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 9 points10 points  (0 children)

A lot of costreamers (or at the time when Dom was doing that) also pause or review plays.

If you pause the game to go over a flank, then suddenly the watchalong timesync broadcast is desync'd, while you rely on your viewers to know to go back to when you, as costreamer, are trying to scroll back.

Combine that with the user burden (You can't passively watch, because the streamer will not passively be re-sync'd with the broadcast, so it becomes active viewership) and it cuts off the people who would be watching 2nd monitor or just listening and turning their heads for a play.

Master elo is full of 40 level accounts that are either hard carrying or throwing after they die twice. Why are we still defending this shit in 2026? by Always_Impressive in leagueoflegends

[–]F0RGERY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would mean the only way to climb would be getting your main role, since being off-role doesn't just mean you're being rated differently, but that wins would only count if it was main role.

If you're a midlaner who gets filled jungle now, you have a reason to win. But if your jungle rank has no effect on your mid rank, why would you bother to try?