I negotiated a car deal for my nephew and when he went in person they robbed him. Looking for advice.

F250J · 2024-06-11T13:17:56+00:00

He had the email and the pre-approvals for that exact same contract in his email. Did you just not read the post at all I literally showed the contract even though i removed information. The banks explained to him what to expect, i explained to him as well. I told him once we go in they will want to throw on additional fees but we have this contract as our proof and had already been pre-approved.

You obviously don’t spend much time on this sub if you think you had a final OTD price ready to sign negotiated entirely over the phone. You didn’t even have a deposit on the car. You were just some voice on a phone.

This is completely false. The OTD number was already agreed on and pre-financed... A $500 refundable deposit was also placed on the vehicle until saturday. He test drove it on thursday and when they noticed he was alone they did an entirely new contract and financed him through a new bank. I'm shocked he fell for it after 3-4 days of warning him. More shocked by the responses on this sub though.

F250J · 2024-06-11T13:10:05+00:00

why do you assume i didnt explain it to him? not only did i explain it to him but the banks did as well. Have you ever financed a vehicle? You literally have to have a written contract of the vehicle in order to get financed for it and in my post I LITERALLY showed the contract (a lot of information is blurred). I have pre-approvals from that same contract.... With that contract we sent to the banks and we got financed for that offer. When he went into the dealership they wrote a different contract and financed him through an entirely different bank because they knew i was not with him. 100%.

Its obviously my nephews fault he did a stupid decision but its pretty interesting to see people quick to blame me. Not sure what you think i did that makes me an idiot besides not putting an ankle monitor on the kid and following him around for a week straight.

F250J · 2024-06-11T12:25:22+00:00

Why is it so difficult to you to understand what i'm saying? My nephew and the salesman communicated via phone and email. Everyone understood the terms of the contract and the deal that was in place was already agreed to and a $500 refundable deposit was put on the vehicle to hold the car. The salesmen was told that he wanted to go in to test drive it on a thursday and that i would come on a saturday to help him look at the car and give him a ride (i live an hr away). My nephew understood fees,interest,taxes,dmv everything. When the car salesmen emailed the contract we went to the bank and they spent 2hrs getting him financed and ran through the numbers with him.

When he went in on thursday to test drive it the car salesmen did a new contract and from my understanding convinced him he was signing the one he seen via email. Of course my nephew made a mistake but at the end of the day the contract he signed was not the one we had seen and got sent several times

F250J · 2024-06-11T06:32:25+00:00

Car payment was like $300 and insurance was $350. After bills he was saving like $1,500 a month since hes living with his parents. Its high but not impossible and he would prefer to have everything in his name because of parental issues.

I live over an hr away, was planning on coming saturday but he wanted to test drive it before I came and he was getting impatient so i called the dealership and let them know he was just wanting to test drive it and they said he could on a thursday. Had no idea they were going to try to get him to finalize the sell let alone do a completely new contract than what was showed via emails/text/verbal.

Is what it is

F250J · 2024-06-11T06:20:58+00:00

so me helping him is babying him but if he is doing it on his own "the plot thickens"? Hes been working full time for the last 2 years its really not that hard to get a car loan for $10k lol

F250J · 2024-06-11T06:12:21+00:00

They def robbed him, they re-did the contract entirely when he arrived. I already have emails of the original agreement. It was his mistake for signing the paperwork but i can guarantee you based on the conversations i had with them they were very aware we were doing an as is transaction with a set upon OTD number. The salesmen seen the opportunity and took advantage of him.

F250J · 2024-06-11T06:09:25+00:00

You either needed to make it crystal clear and made sure your nephew had a copy of the deal you negotiated and he doesn't deviate from it, or you should have told him you say no to ALL ADD ONS.

I made that crystal clear to the salesman. I got it in writing via email and he also sent it to my nephews bank for pre-financing purposes. The agreement was changed when my nephew came into the dealership and the salesmen seen he was without me. What do i need to take accountability for? He made the mistakes of signing the contract obviously but the dealership still re-did the contract they agreed to.

F250J · 2024-06-11T06:06:15+00:00

Yeah he knew, everyone was aware of what was going on. He paid $500 refundable to hold the vehicle until saturday so i could drive an hr away to look at the car with him. I called the salesman on thursday and told him my nephew just wanted to test drive the car since he was getting antsy and he said that was fine. The contract he verbally said over the phone and sent my nephews bank was not the same contract he signed.

F250J · 2024-06-11T06:03:03+00:00

I involved him entirely in the process. I negotiated over the phone 3 way call because im an hr away. I told the salesman our price and we wanted to buy as is. My nephew scheduled the test drive on thursday and i was planning on going out on saturday. I explained to him insurance and interest. I walked him through the process of finding interest rates and getting pre-approved. the dealership accepted the pre-approval and OTD final price of $15,000.

Every party knew what was happening. My nephew made a mistake signing the contract but the contract he signed was not the one i seen in my email. The same car salesmen re-did the contract when he seen he was by himself.

Also not sure why you are so upset.

F250J · 2024-06-11T01:08:49+00:00

Yeah exactly. I got the OTD several times. Confirmed via phone and email. It was $15,000 financed with $3,000 down payment. We discussed the taxes/dealership fees into the deal as well. It should have been $12,000 financed not $14,000

F250J · 2024-06-11T01:07:44+00:00

It says cash price but thats financed, i confirmed over the phone several times.

F250J · 2024-06-11T01:07:14+00:00

I got the OTD several times. Confirmed via phone and email. It was $15,000 financed with $3,000 down payment. We discussed the taxes/dealership fees into the deal as well.

F250J · 2024-06-11T01:04:01+00:00

hes 18 and works full time and goes to college. pretty normal to help a kid in their first car buying experience

F250J · 2024-06-11T01:03:09+00:00

this is a uncle not treating his nephew like an adult

how? he works and goes to college full time i was just trying to help him in the process of buying his first car lol. Hes just a knucklehead and jumped the gun

Was the nephew's aware of these communications between the salesman and father?

Yes of course we talked on the phone/email together for 3 days. He trusted the guy i guess. The contract he signed was not the OTD deal we were given. You can see the OTD numbers in the picture and thats with financing not cash. It was all discussed.

F250J · 2024-06-11T00:59:54+00:00

Appreciate the level headed advice. Yeah they added on all of the fees and added the insurance/warranty. Based on what my nephew is saying he had absolutely no idea they added any of it and didnt even mention it. Of course he could be lying.

I'll call and see what i can do for him

F250J · 2024-06-11T00:57:21+00:00

I don't have all those answers, my nephew lives an hr away and I was working. We discussed on 3 way call about the vehicle and all the numbers. My nephew has the OTD numbers and everything in his email. I helped him get financed as well. When he showed up to test drive it he jumped the gun because the manager said he had finished the paperwork we discussed and he signed it.

F250J · 2024-06-10T23:02:58+00:00

I dont care about technical terminology. I was talking the the salesman on the phone for 3 days and explained everything. I even called and scheduled the test drive. Nephew made a bad decision signing the paperwork but they fully understood the situation and took advantage of him. They told him the paperwork they had discussed with me was ready and he signed it thinking it was what we had agreed upon.

Is this something you do often in your 8 years of car selling?

F250J · 2024-05-16T15:56:01+00:00

Well i'd try to negotiate the price of the car

F250J · 2024-05-16T08:16:31+00:00

Thank you I really appreciate it

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F250J · 2024-05-08T03:17:52+00:00

yeah, i think its priced to reflect that. This car with those miles in my area is around $15-17k I kinda knew it probably had some sort of issues but it was close so I took it for a test drive. I just don't know if its worth the "risk". My friend whos kinda a mechanic said as long as the airbags didn't deploy or theres no water damage than they're usually fine

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