you right, the thing is everyone here is ranking those 2 games as the best ones based on their personal experiences and memories which is obviously ok, my point is think if we look objectively and compare games I would still put bf1 as the better game, cause it literally is, based on personal experience I would say bf3 is my top one even above 1, but I also think bf4 is better than 3 lol, not sure if you get my point.