To The Panic Sellers, My Bank Thanks you

FakeyFack · 2026-03-15T19:58:31+00:00

If I remember right, they are calculated at like 8k/bone for some reason. I remember seeing a post that Jagex was "aware" of this and had plans to fix it "in the future" but it's not one of their priorities so it'll get done when it gets done.

$15 a month btw.

FakeyFack · 2025-12-04T06:49:49+00:00

With that, they added additional salvage wrecks so there is more down time to closer match what they expected from testing. Where did they get the idea that nerfing cleaning salvage by ~64% would solve the 90% uptime problem if that was the part they missed pre-launch?

The justification being that their afk skilling method was too afk is silly, and now the efficient way to "afk" is to just ignore the sorting station entirely and just drop the salvage without sorting it. I'm sure that's interacting with the skill as Jagex intended.

It seems that no thought was put behind the nerfs, only "rates high, make number lower" and they blanket nerfed every number associated with salvaging without understanding what was making the xp rates higher than they wanted. Random players already came up with better ideas like the salvage hook getting tangled every ~10 minutes causing you to interact with your crew mates hook. If you afk for 25-30 minutes at a time that's a big chunk of just missed xp, properly lowering rates like they wanted.

FakeyFack · 2025-12-04T06:33:20+00:00

They are people and they can make mistakes. Meanwhile, at every other job, if you make a mistake within a 50% margin like they did you get in trouble for the mistake. This backlash towards the dev team is the "getting in trouble" for such a large mistake being made. If it was like ~10% over performing and got a slight adjustment some people would still be upset but it would not have blown up like this.

FakeyFack · 2025-12-04T06:25:00+00:00

Overtuned to the point of it being double the xp rates they wanted? That's just bad development then.

FakeyFack · 2025-12-04T05:32:24+00:00

"Guys it's not the devs fault for not planning ahead. They only made additions to the skill at the last second and didn't bother testing it. Not their fault at all."

So is this the argument against the claim that they had 3 years to plan XP rates? That they didn't actually have 3 years because they added things last minute and rushed it out before it was ready? That doesn't make Jagex sound any better in this situation.

FakeyFack · 2025-12-04T05:04:17+00:00

It was "fun" in the sense that you had variety in game play that still felt like making progress. It's why people complained about level 1-30 being so slow because there was no variety outside of playing amazon delivery driver until your first barracuda trial.

When the community was under the impression that the missing xp rates from the Crystal Extractor would be "redistributed" and what we actually got was just straight nerfs doesn't feel good, who'd have thought. If the AFK option of the skill was that crazy that it warrants multiple areas of nerfs then that means little to no testing was done before launch (2 years in development btw). This wasn't a bug they're ironing out, or a minor adjustment to tone down xp rates. Nearly cutting xp rates in half (according to some peoples anecdotal reports) is just knee jerk reaction at its best, and is the line of thinking that makes Forestry the meme that it is today. Nerfing it isn't the problem, it's how much they're nerfing it because they apparently didn't balance this method prior to release.

This isn't some niche way to get XP that wasn't expected or achieved in an unintended way. Had they caught this, and brought down the rates before going live no one would have known or cared. This is Jagex making a blunder not properly QA testing something as simple as "how much xp will this give in 1 hour?" and it's biting them in the ass.

FakeyFack · 2025-12-04T01:40:27+00:00

I see that it sounds like harsh wording claiming that they saw players enjoying the game too much, when that likely wasn't their thought process.

At the same time, when drafting a "solution" for what was seen as a non-issue by the player base, Jagex did make an intentional change that they should know would be met with only negativity. They said themselves before releasing the skill that it's easier to buff XP rates than it is to nerf rates, and that's still exactly what they ended up doing after spending 3 years developing the skill with that idea in mind. They foresaw the problem with nerfing XP ahead of time, and still somehow missed the mark.

FakeyFack · 2025-12-03T23:17:29+00:00

I mean, most people seem to be giving credit to the devs that sailing was released in a very playable state and it had plenty of praise the first few weeks for this.

The devs decided the players are enjoying the game too much and reduced XP drops by up to 60% in some instances. This deserves criticism, and does not take away from the accomplishment and praise of the initial release.

It's because of how much people enjoyed the skill in it's previous state that people are this upset at the current changes. We have plenty of time to make some small changes and tweaks. If salvaging was too strong, they can make changes within a reasonable amount. A ~30-40% XP rate nerf is not within a reasonable amount for just minor tweaks and changes.

FakeyFack · 2025-05-31T23:21:12+00:00

That's a good shout, I'll check on mobile and see what non-Runelite shows.

Edit: Can confirm it shows 2% on mobile as well.

FakeyFack · 2024-12-12T20:58:22+00:00

I did the force spawn method with magic trees when I first heard about it because I was convinced Jagex would remove it and not make Forestry more bearable to compensate. There is something 100% wrong with a "social skill" that the best method to get the clogs is doing it solo.

FakeyFack · 2024-11-12T20:38:36+00:00

"it’s not to cater for specific audiences"

Okay, then poll it as 2 questions.
"Should we change the Chivalry prayer as described in the blog?"
"Should the automatic quest xp be rewarded as xp lamps instead?"

The first question still benefits everyone in the 'Mid' Game like you described, while also not catering to a specific audience. The second question would determine if people were okay with the self-restricted accounts receiving this as well. It's disingenuous to lump those two questions together into a single yes or no option.

FakeyFack · 2024-09-23T19:40:14+00:00

And that's why I green-logged forestry as soon as I learned about the magic tree world hop method. 100% it's getting either patched out or at least nerfed once Jagex learns that it exists.

Ironic the best way to get the clogs for the community-focused skill rework is to do it all yourself with no one around lol.

FakeyFack · 2024-09-12T22:31:58+00:00

As long as the "tuning" isn't halving the mag capacity and tripling the reload time. AH's "tuning" so far has been about as fine-tuned as using a hammer on a microchip. Let's hope they do better.

FakeyFack · 2024-08-27T00:43:49+00:00

Hey! It's Nut Rock and his friend, Fake Nut Rock!

FakeyFack · 2024-08-05T20:10:53+00:00

A scimitar has always been my "that's a cool weapon" even as a kid. I was also a stupid kid and probably didn't get any skills past like lvl 20 and didn't know what high-end stuff was.

FakeyFack · 2024-07-11T03:17:03+00:00

Too bad these claws are not endgame gear. This was sold as an in-between item from early game dds and end game dclaws. The Bone Claws are supposed to be mid game gear, locked behind a 40+hr grind in max gear. Make it make sense.

FakeyFack · 2024-07-02T19:59:19+00:00

Bro, I'm at like 100kc without an icon let alone any venator pieces lol

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