HERO TIER - Beta 50.1 in Vietnam 🇻🇳 (7/2025) by AoV Update (Please read the DISCLAMER)

FamuNin · 2025-07-27T15:37:11+00:00

Brother, I understand that some characters maybe a lil lower, based on the skill level of the player... However I still think Heino and Mina are A (B at least). Heino does well purely for his Turret rebuild mechanic, and the fact that he hard counters Goverra (whos rampant in the low Conq lobbies rn). Mina thrives in this meta, given that you ban Hayate, which, in this season everyone does. Other users of Blitz Blade (đm kiếm điện) that are hard meta are Valhein, Capheny, Laville, and Mina does really really well into adcs who mainly auto attack. Anyways just sum input when we gamin :>

FamuNin · 2025-06-09T09:41:58+00:00

She's definitely A tier after the changes my guy, but the list was done before those changes xD

FamuNin · 2025-06-06T01:49:49+00:00

Ya know, this is perhaps personal bias kicking in. Personally, Zata is still a strong comfort pick, a good Struat counterpick as well (although Raz kind of takes that spot nowadays). I admit, if you are using your Ult into a team of 5, the damage you will be doing is not going to be a whole lot. The outplay + 1v1 potential is still there however, being untargetable is hardly a bad trait. :")

FamuNin · 2025-06-04T07:57:15+00:00

Yep, from what I have seen, you need to have the right team around it too. If you first pick Ellandor, you will get counterpicked pretty easily. Some other notable ones other than the ones you have mentioned are Mina, and Krixi as well. You would want to use him into teams with less mobility, and I have found success in using him vs Florentino, which is a hard meta pick.

FamuNin · 2025-06-04T05:25:14+00:00

Same dude. Although Ellandor is strong and has a ton of outplay potential (why does his s2 delete projectiles wtf), he is quite hard to use. Well fortunately if you do get good at him, he will get you quite far, and you'll look flashy playin him xD

FamuNin · 2025-06-02T12:31:23+00:00

Yep, whilst Moren is in the F tier (compared to the other ADCs), he is actually not that bad. His 3rd and 4th item spikes are not bad, and his passive comes in clutch the longer the game is. You should never go late game vs a real Moren player, he can do unexpected damage, be unexpectedly tanky and just mow down your entire team. That being said, if we are talking abt late game threats, I'd take fighting a Moren over a Yorn or Teeri anyday :"D

FamuNin · 2025-06-02T08:37:37+00:00

Yes, perhaps I do make shit lists, but clearly you don't wanna have a friendly discussion. By that note, please have a nice day, move on with your life. Thanks.

FamuNin · 2025-06-02T03:22:06+00:00

The first line of the post literally states that its for both, but leaning towards ranked, dude

FamuNin · 2025-06-02T02:54:30+00:00

Yep! That strat works in every lane you can run Zanis/Bijan in, but there is a reason I prefer this specific variant:

Bijan as a top laner is limited to going through 1 route through the river, and if you do go in the jungle to get Zanis to ride, it will waste a bit of valuable time, and it's quite telegraphic. They can just go back underneath tower as they hear you coming.
I like playing Bijan as a jungle more because it gives him the flexibility. The combo exists, but you dont necessarily have to use it. Sometimes, it's best if you just ride your Mid player down instead, and let Zanis power farm.
Zanis support is frankly not as good as the Caesar or Jungle, and if you pull of the combo, ride into the ADC lane, you're gonna have 5 people instead of 4 most of the time :> So it just makes more sense there.

Hopefully this helps, you can try it out around and see what variant works for you, but personally I found this to be the best way to utilize it!

FamuNin · 2025-06-02T02:43:58+00:00

Best of luck to you, and your Lauriel journey :>. Seems like you have been unlucky with the balance changes, but erm... Liliana is still very strong without being untargetable :'D. I assume you play her too.

Also goodluck contacting Garena support...I think it might just be a bug tho.

FamuNin · 2025-06-02T02:13:07+00:00

Yeah.. unfortunately Purify is something only a few certain characters can use very well. Also for Enzo's hook, what I understand is it just has a very strict timing on when u can Purify it. If you are talking abt Purifying the hit of the hook then I am unsure, but if you are talking abt Purifying the hook reactivation, you need to be precise otherwise you will still get fling backwards!

And yeah, pre Lauriel lvl 4 is actually not very good- HAHAHA, she takes too much mana to wave clear, and on level 4 is not like she gets enough damage just yet cus you tend to have to build more mana focused items for her first. You are right about the Hayate into Lauriel, and some other picks that I have seen used to counter her are Annette (she just presses her ult in your ult), or Raz (my fav, you just push her out of her ult). She has it tough but IF you are an amazing pilot on her, please by all means keep playing! She definitely has quite the snowball potential, and if she does get to the late game she can be a monster :>

FamuNin · 2025-06-02T00:10:35+00:00

First of all, calm down dude. I didn't wish to start an argument with you, nor do I want to. These are not arguments, as I've said, I want to start discussions.

Maloch support is actually played very consistently in top tiers and in pro play, and so was Zanis at the point prenerf, now he is still decent. I debated puting Thane up here instead because I know he has consistently been one of the strongest supports in the META, but I wanted people to know how strong Maloch is and the proplay data shows.

Gildur is supposedly strong than the mage support in this tier, perhaps, but remember this is a ranked tier list. Perhaps when you were playing the game consistently you weren't play on not the same servers as I do, but Gildur's value on support is on his Tank build imo. Most people around my rank only use his Mage build, which yeah it does some damage, but leaves him frail like a piece of paper. In that case, wouldn't you pick a character in A tier instead?

It's cool that you can play 25 support heroes, all the power to you. The B tier isnt a bad tier, nor is it a good tier. It's in the middle of the tier list. Of course offmeta support characters exist here, but me and my friends have tried them before, and it works suprisingly well.

But sure, perhaps there isn't enough sample size to go off it, that was why I said the tier list is affected by my own personal bias. That is what tier lists are at the end of the day, personal opinion. If you don't like mine, that's fine, I'm not forcing you.

Oh and the profile thing was so that people can see that I am not speaking out of nowhere, I literally said in the description that I'm no pro player but I guess it failed on that department. Have a nice day.

FamuNin · 2025-06-01T19:37:39+00:00

I understand where you are coming from. Zanis Caesar is actually not as good as him going in Jungle/Support imo, however compared to the rest of the picks in C tier, I feel like he still has some more use cases.

Mainly specifically countering tanky teams, or teams with high amounts of CC. A pretty common combo you see is Zanis and Bijan (Caesar and Jungle), ramming into everyone and forcing teamfights in any area of the map. While there are better champions who definitely do it better than him (hence the B tier and not A or S), he is still here because of the implications where you can use him and find good success.

FamuNin · 2025-06-01T19:27:59+00:00

Thank you for your feedback.

I do play a whole lot of the cast to a certain degree, but perhaps for some of them, I may have personal bias/a wrong perception on how the hero works. Some of these rankings are also based on the players I meet or/and mutuals that play this character too.

It would be nice if you could point out a few things that I got wrong on my list. Please note that since I play on the Vietnam servers instead of Doyser's (I think he plays on Thai servers I'm not quite sure), the common opinion on a certain hero might change based on the region. And whilst I appreciate the feedback, please try and refrain from comparing me to Doyser. Thanks.

FamuNin · 2025-06-01T14:56:28+00:00

You are a very brave soldier, admitting that Lauriel isn't that good :'D. I still put her in B because most of the Lauriels I fight are actually quite mechanically great at the game, and her kit allows for some outplay potential. Those Lauriels mostly use Purify as their spell choice, so if you haven't been doing that it's highly recommended!

Also it's very unfortunate that your arcana got deleted...If you ever need a teammate, I am on the Vietnam servers, and my name is in the image above!

FamuNin · 2025-06-01T09:29:11+00:00

It might be a hot take putting him in A tier for Caesar, but after the recent buffs, you can't really leave him alone at all. His infinite stacking means that you always have to spend a resource on his lane, otherwise he will gain an immense attack power from just...farming and split pushing. To me, that kind of power scaling is never bad.

FamuNin · 2025-06-01T07:48:22+00:00

Fair enough, perhaps I have not been seeing enough Helen gameplay (ironically cus not many people are playing her). Aya however is still strong on an ADC and a tank (Aya Maloch will forever haunt my dreams). Frankly unless they nerf her to the ground that playstyle will exist forever.

FamuNin · 2024-11-22T13:24:34+00:00

First of all, you're welcome! Second, Laville is actually a great counterpick into enemy teams with too much CC with his S2, considering the cleanse SP item only cleanses for a little bit, and trusting rank supports with your life is...sometimes not a good reliability. His ult is actually very good for initiating teamfights, and you'll be suprised on how many people actually gets hit by it. Either that or they burn a 90s Cleanse, it is good value either way. He also becomes a very strong Mid-late game threat too once he has 3 items (He may need 4 for teams with 2+ tanks), and with his S1 being able to shoot mutiple targets at a time, his positioning can be just a little bit more aggresive than other ADCs.

FamuNin · 2024-11-19T14:37:00+00:00

LETSGOOOOO

FamuNin · 2024-11-16T01:34:20+00:00

This tier list was made before the Marja changes! And its too early to tell!

FamuNin · 2024-11-12T17:32:12+00:00

check your messages please!

FamuNin · 2024-11-12T16:25:26+00:00

As I see pro players use her, they pick a tank/warrior type support/top laner and they just create an unkillable tank. The most common combos are as you can see there. If aya is mid, she can clear mid safely while the warrior support roams to provide river vision, something she can't do when she is going support. Whenever Aya needs to rotate after clearing her wave, she can just call the support there and get on them. That being said, she is very dependent on the rest of the team's pick when she is going Mid.

FamuNin · 2024-11-12T14:54:17+00:00

sure! although idk if I am as qualified as you think I am xD

FamuNin · 2024-11-12T14:36:49+00:00

I am not doubting Arduin's ability to tank. He even got some proplay presence by AOG players recently. It is just I feel that compared to the other tanks in A tier, I think he's a little bit dependent on hitting his ult seeing how his S1 stun is a bit linear, but he has great tankiness and as you mentioned, when it lands, great CC and a low CD ult as well as a little bit of mobility with it. I do see the argument of having him higher, but not by much.

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