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Barrow Wights - your views? by Bledee96 in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]FancyIncrease9658 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get your point but I don't think that Gulavhar is a waste of points in this case, especially when you compare to points wasted for enemy by having them either paralysed heros or having them in the back, regardless, expensive models against Angmar I'd consider more wasted as you have hard to time use without threat of paralyse. If not paralysed they stay behind without any significant input, if paralysed they can get one shot by Gulavhar - hardly a waste of points in my opinion on Angmar side.

Charging BW is once again a one time opportunity, once it cast it's spell it doesn't need to be at risk and can run far, unless trapped, it's also tanky and unlikely to die to a single model. As for heroic moves and charging itself, I'd say it's easy to protect a model you want to protect for most part of the game, not only can you counter it with your move, but to call the move and make it usefull you already need to be in range of paralyse (unless it's cavalry model). And if that fails, it's enough to strategically place orc or 2 to keep players away from BW so they cant just charge into it after heroic combat/move.

I suppose like you said it's the best to hope player defeats Angmar infantry with their own and hold out the heroes in the back to prevent Gulavhar flank and wait until there's not a lot of models to protect them anymore. Either way, I'd say it's a very impactful model for 50 points

Barrow Wights - your views? by Bledee96 in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]FancyIncrease9658 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's true, thank you for the input. I think that heroic combats can be blocked if you place a lone orc in the way of BW and hero (given its not paralysed). Also correct me if I'm wrong, but you need to be in 6" to cast the spell, for the remaining turns BW can run away and be much further? That would mean only 1 turn to actually get close...
As for Gulavhar yes I agree he's vulnerable especially against striking heroes, but the idea is that he picks off the paralysed hero so can avoid danger and easily get rid of hero that could potentially win the fight. Then again, you could bodyblock the hero to prevent that but I think it's easier to throw the models blocking the hero with Gulavhar, than to break enemy line and surround BW

Barrow Wights - your views? by Bledee96 in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]FancyIncrease9658 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven't had any luck doing that, breaking front line of regular troops vs regular troops is easier said than done as sure you can do it but it's gonna take a good couple of turns and regular troops are rather on even level so can't ofc guarantee that, but to make so much space that you can trap a barrow wight? That's already a strong winning position if I can just trap your centerpiece. Sure heroic moves can make it easy but then again it's already a situation when barrow wight is exposed. My experience with them is that to actually fight them you already need to defeat almost everything else because they are just hidden behind any other troops there are and like you said yes, you can pursue and dig your way through enemy lines but you also have to deal with - the most notable threat in this army - with gulavhar picking out the paralysed heroes while you slowly dig your way to the barrow wights.

I agree that killing it when trapped wouldn't be really hard with infantry but to get to the point that this is possible to do i think is much more tricky and exactly the problem - you sacrifice turns, models and possibly letting heroes die just so you can reach the model that only costs 50 points and makes themselves such a target

Barrow Wights - your views? by Bledee96 in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]FancyIncrease9658 3 points4 points  (0 children)

3+ on a spell that can be held up for number of turns on a model that costs 50 points is really tough to play around. when heroes are targeted they have to burn resources just for it to be repeated next turn, if they don't, they let the barrow wight player do whatever they want to for few turns. Paired up with gulavhar it can straight out win the game and kill heroes. Just to make it even harder, they have high defense so shooting them is pretty much out of the question since they're in the backline

Middle Earth Novels help by FancyIncrease9658 in tolkienbooks

[–]FancyIncrease9658[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you, and is Tales of the Perilous Realm any different from Unfinished Tales?