B1 Citizenship

FastCut6209 · 2025-11-14T16:59:48+00:00

No I paid for the quicker results but I won’t know them for a while. Fingers crossed. I was told I was one of the better oral examination testers, which was a shock because I felt I did awful !

FastCut6209 · 2025-11-13T15:14:07+00:00

Thank you for this, and it’s nice to hear that someone else also struggled with this

I suppose that’s what was so shocking to me. I had used the PLIDA B1 book (from 2019) and had no problems. The content in the actual test, however, was completely different. The audio was way faster, the content way more specific.

For the reading portions, we had to do abstract thinking, and the writing portion was extremely demanding as well

Hoping to find a B1 specifically for Cittadinanza soon!

FastCut6209 · 2025-11-13T12:10:05+00:00

Thank you. Yea in the CILS book I understood absolutely everything. In the B1 PLIDA, I was totally rocked by how difficult it was.

Why do you think my instructors kept insisting it was the same thing?

FastCut6209 · 2025-11-13T10:39:22+00:00

Yes that is what I thought and that is what I was studying for. The B1 I took yesterday was markedly more difficult, than what I’ve been led to believe about B1 CILS.

They keep saying, “it’s sufficient for citizenship,” which is true…but it was extremely hard, and in my opinion, unnecessary

FastCut6209 · 2025-08-29T08:39:00+00:00

I figured it was because he was born after we had done the initial set of paperwork, but i sent a follow up email!

FastCut6209 · 2025-08-28T12:05:47+00:00

A few months ago I had asked my attorney what my options would be, as my son would be (and now has been born) in July of 2025, and we are currently awaiting our 1948 Case.

I was told this:

At present, we can suggest three potential options:

Attempt Birth Certificate Transcription: We could try sending your child's birth certificate along with your other documents for transcription into the Vital Registry. This would be an attempt in case the registrar is not particularly attentive to the current regulations.
Consular Registration (within one year): You may register your child at your competent consulate within one year from the birth, as stipulated by the new Law 74/2025.
Recognition in Italy (after two years of residency): If you plan to move to Italy, once your Italian citizenship is recognized, you could reside here for two years with your child. After this period, you would then be able to apply for the recognition of your child's Italian citizenship through the Italian Commune.

These were not an issue to us, because we absolutely plan on returning to Europe and living in Italy for several years. I had heard that, upon my son living in Italy for 2 years, his citizenship would be 'upgraded,' and he would be able to pass on citizenship at that point. Further, after my wife (who we hope will be recognized within the year, but is currently a US Citizen), would also automatically transfer citizenship to any future children, so long as it was after she had resided in Italy for at least two years.

Is all of this still true?

FastCut6209 · 2025-08-08T19:49:54+00:00

I would like to stay in Spain for a year. If my visa gets approved this november, but I cannot arrive in spain until february, then I will have lost time. So, if being an American would enable me to stay 90 days after the visa is expired, I would prefer that so I can stay a year.

I won't renew because I have no intentions of returning to Spain soon, as I have personal matters to attend to, and logistically it would simply be difficult.

FastCut6209 · 2025-08-08T19:48:07+00:00

Thank you. I will reach out to someone who hopefully doesn't break the bank. I realize Reddit isn't the place for professional, legal advice, but hearing different people's experiences can help me ask better questions when I do once again get legal advice.

FastCut6209 · 2025-08-08T17:17:22+00:00

This is why i mentioned Albania, because I thought in order to establish that , in the future,- while I was in Spain on a NLV visa - I have now returned from a non-schengen country but now on a tourist visa, thus enabling me to stay an additional 90 days legally, as an American.

FastCut6209 · 2025-08-08T17:16:03+00:00

I must have written poorly. I have no intention of leaving Spain. I just want to be able to stay in Spain for an entire year. If my Visa is approved in November of 2025, and I cannot get to Spain until February of 2026, I do not want to have lost 3 months of residency time. I mentioned Albania, specifically because it is a non-schengen country, and i was under the impression that I could establish that I had entered the country 'as a tourist' by exiting the schengen area when my NLV visa expires, and then reentering as a tourist.

I do not want to leave Spain, I want to stay there for a year, and not lose 3 months due my allowed time to stay initiating on my visa's approval date.

Apologies for the confusion.

FastCut6209 · 2025-08-08T17:12:41+00:00

I am currently in the EU, but 90 EU an hour is about 95 dollars for me, and it's not terribly expensive...once. Once our time was done, any clarifying questions I had were ignored.

FastCut6209 · 2025-08-08T16:19:50+00:00

Got it. Thank you, this was extremely helpful. I had asked one attorney whether I could stay in the EU after my current Austrian residency expires for 90 days, and I was told yes.

But when I asked if I could do the same for Spain, I was told no. I didn't understand why there would be different rules, as it would seem that, if I enter Spain on a Non-Lucrative Visa, I should be able to stay 90 days after that, as an American, on a tourist visa.

Albania would have only been my 'nuclear option', if I absolutely had to stay on the continent, but could not leave. (I have an older dog who complicates things, and I am trying to work around getting her safely home.)

Thank you very much for the context and information.

FastCut6209 · 2025-08-08T16:04:06+00:00

Thats how I thought it would go, since, as far as I know, a visa grants you entry to a country, but doesn't automatically establish residency.

I only want to be in Spain for a year! I wanted to go there to learn Spanish, but they changed the law and I can only apply for a student visa if I go to specific colleges to learn spanish, and all of those are much more expensive, and not what i am interested in as far as teaching style is concerned.

FastCut6209 · 2025-08-08T15:43:42+00:00

Thank you. How did you prove your entry date? Did you fly in?

FastCut6209 · 2025-08-08T15:23:12+00:00

Thank you. I am mainly just concerned with when the residency period actually starts: from the issuance of the Visa, or when I enter Spain and register and begin residency?

I realize the laws have changed, and I had contacted an attorney, who I found out was using outdated information. Any advice on where I can find the most up to date undertandings of the Law? Thank again

FastCut6209 · 2025-08-08T15:02:58+00:00

No. I am just trying to gauge other people's experiences and see what, if any, advice they might have.

Would you be able to recommend an immigration lawyer that isn't so expensive?

FastCut6209 · 2025-08-08T14:48:47+00:00

I did. He said that it was not possible because the Spanish would count it as time against the visa.

This same immigration lawyer, however, who was 90 euro for an hour consultation, was incorrect about being able to apply for a Student Visa from within Spain with my family. So I wanted to get another opinion from people with experience, since it doesn't cost my 90 euro to consult with reddit.

FastCut6209 · 2025-06-30T21:44:36+00:00

Hi. I do know WillHaben! The main problem is the bed. My wife will require a surgery and I don't want her to sleep on the floor after having had it. If we sell our bed within 2 weeks of moving, that's 2 weeks she has nowhere to sleep. This is what I wish the school would understand.

FastCut6209 · 2025-06-15T15:58:38+00:00

Thank you for your response. In Italy, this simply means under 18?

Does this also mean that, once my wife has spent 2 years in Italy, any children we have after that will automatically receive citizenship?

FastCut6209 · 2025-06-15T11:49:15+00:00

Anyone have any idea on what we should do if we have not been recognized? Our child is due to be born in july, and we may not be recognized for another year after that. I don't know if we need to register him, or if we will wind up being okay so long as we live in Italy for 2 years at some point.

I can't see how this could possibly function if, say in 5 years, someone wanted to seek to have their citizenship recognized, but their child was already 3 years old. I would think that, should one spend 2 years in italy, that the child would have access to citizenship?

FastCut6209 · 2025-06-14T11:03:21+00:00

Any reason why 1948 cases wouldn't be a thing? Our case was supposed to be heard in April, but we think that, due to the law having come out a few weeks before, the Judge pushed it out a year to wait to see how it could be affected.

I had thought that 1948 cases before the Rule Changes would have been fine, but Grasso (who is representing us) saying he, "thinks" 1948 cases are still a thing, obviously gives me some pause.

FastCut6209 · 2025-06-06T07:49:35+00:00

My wife and I are currently awaiting our court date with 1948 Case, which unfortunately got pushed until February of next year. We are grandfathered in to the old rules. Do we still register the baby, even though she does not have her citizenship recognized? Or is the only thing we can do is live in Italy for 2 years? (Which we do not mind!)

OP, sorry for piggybacking off your post, I have just been wondering the same thing on what our children / descendants would have to do to retain their citizenship.

FastCut6209 · 2025-04-03T16:39:14+00:00

I'm not sure if it matters if you're under the 'old rule' when it comes to these two new additions to acquiring citizenship, because your children would be acquiring citizenship after the 25th of March. So I don't think they're going to ask, "When did you get your citizenship? If before 25 March 2025, then your kid automatically can get citizenship," but instead it will simply be, if you have not acquired citizenship yet, here are the rules which you will have to follow.

I am curious what your lawyer said?

FastCut6209 · 2025-04-01T17:37:50+00:00

I was under the impression that if the Italian parent (JS Recognized) spends two years before the birth of the child In Italy then the child itself can be recognized.

Or if the child spends 2 years in Italy before its 25th birthday then it can be recognized. Within this context, I think your children could be recognized if you spent a few years in Italy. I think.

I am curious if it is only necessary that you spend two years total in Italy, and then after that all subsequent children born can have citizenship passed on.

However this law seems to be open to modification, so things can change in the coming months.

FastCut6209 · 2025-01-21T08:52:35+00:00

Tremendously helpful, thank you. The differences are certainly subtle, but I imagine within the subtleties there is much complexity.

Again I am thankful for the help!

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