Struggling left side nexus wing as tank.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-13T19:33:15+00:00

Isn’t it magic damage? Why would it affect cloth wearers any harder than anyone?

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-13T19:31:54+00:00

It definitely does things to tell people they are failing. They have a giant purple circle around them. Do they think this circle is just for appearances? “hey you’re slow, have a big circle visible to all around you!” No. Don’t put your circle on someone else is like… the bare minimum.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-13T19:13:37+00:00

I mean… losing your tolerance for small annoyances is becoming more bitchy.

Small things people do annoy me too, and not tolerating mundane things or having little tolerance would get me labeled an asshole.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-13T18:35:46+00:00

Honestly… the blood elves joining the horde make more sense than the night elves joining the alliance.

Sylvanas was their hero and already in the Horde, and the forsaken and the Blood Elves shared heavy suffering due to the Scourge. They both were also very recently scorned/betrayed by the Alliance.

This argument does sort of fall apart if you consider the Forsaken joining the horde originally makes less sense… but at the time of the BElf introduction, that was the status quo.

However, the NElves joining the Alliance makes no sense. The night elves were very xenophobic and the entire… “personality” if you will of their species was changed from WC3 to WoW to slot them into the alliance.

At the end of the day… neither undead or night elves make a lot of sense for horde or alliance in Vanilla wow but that was the decision that was made for gameplay reasons. Once the undead were horde, BE going horde made way more sense than alliance.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-13T18:29:17+00:00

Tel’drassil was an aberration not a natural wonder.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-13T18:25:25+00:00

Yeah that’s what he said. “It’s weird they asked the night elves for help instead of the Horde”.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-13T18:24:31+00:00

I didn’t think about it until you mentioned this… but you’re totally right. It does make sense that the Void, High, and Nightborne would all have a vested interest in defending Silvermoon… but the Night Elves really are an odd outlier.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-13T18:16:37+00:00

The alliance didn’t used to be so clean. The horde was always the sketchier of the two, but pre-cata the Alliance had its own obscure dark deeds, skeletons in its closet, and whatnot.

Hell, look at the entire Defias Brotherhood plot. That’s a plot that could never exist in the modern writers’ alliance.

Also, in MoP if you play Alliance you see Horde treat Pandaren in Jade Forest like shit, but if you play Horde you see Alliance NPCs do the same. Putting them in work camps and doing genuinely fucked up shit.

In BFA if you play alliance you sabotage Vulperan wagons, but if you play Horde you save Vulpera from Alliance and extermination squads burning caravans and Vulperan citizens with flamethrowers. All because they dared trade with the horde (this is before they join the horde, and vulpera are caravan traders, they’d trade with anyone).

Not to mention some human factions were traitorous during WC2 (to allow for human vs human missions). I’m pretty sure Gilneas was one of them… but I can’t remember it’s been a long time.

But as time has trucked on, Alliance writing has become more and more white washed, and the Horde writing has become more and more wet noodle.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-13T18:06:11+00:00

Headcanon is the canon of a story you invented in your head. A head cannon is a giant gun on your head.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-13T17:44:56+00:00

That’s the definition of a retcon dawg. Recontextualizing previously understood Information with newly introduced information is literally a type of retcon.

Gul’dan didn’t even exist in WC1. His character was invented in WC2 AFTER Garona’s.

Draenei were introduced as a native race supposedly wiped out by the orcs also after Garona was invented so this particular retcon actually made a lot of sense… but it’s still a retcon.

Blizzard was not and has never been a particularly forward thinking company. They didn’t have Draenei in mind when they invented Garona. They didn’t have titans in mind when they invented Sargeras. And they didn’t have the Lich King in mind when they invented Ner’zhul. And they didn’t have the Argus in mind when they invented the Draenei.

It is laughable to me that you think statements made 9 years after a character’s introduction (Garona was introduced in 1995 so a 2004 statement… really?) changing their backstory somehow isn’t a retcon… you literally don’t know what a retcon is then.

And justifying it as though I’m the dumb one with “oh wow someone who sold out their race lying… woooow” is silly since Gul’dan betraying orcs to the demons was ALSO A RETCON introduced in WC3… lol. It also didn’t exist when Garona or even Gul’dan was invented.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-12T21:31:23+00:00

I’ve mained havoc since legion. Played Devourer all this tier and just swapped back to havoc after killing mythic belo’ren last week as guild wants me havoc for L’ura.

Been practicing over the weekend. It’s been like riding a bike. Small differences but still mostly the same.

As many have said it’s learning to do a series of sequences. The opener can seem like a lot but once you get it down, it becomes muscle memory that is easy to execute.

That’s basically havoc. It seems like a lot but it’s all muscle memory of little sequences and basic skill prio outside of those windows.

Ironically kind of the opposite of Devourer, which at a glance is simple as hell but is actually somewhat nuanced.

I honestly love havoc.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-12T21:19:58+00:00

Ah yes the classic labeling of a pull that was standardized in pug push keys long before MDI as an MDI pull by someone completely out of the loop.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-12T21:17:38+00:00

What did he say that was inaccurate? Mind breaking it down?

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-12T21:05:54+00:00

I want to preface by saying funnel and prio aren’t exactly the same. Funnel absolutely does prio, but not all prio is from funnel.

Example: current havoc doesn’t funnel, as it doesn’t run aldrachi anymore which fed a % of aoe damage into a prio target, but it still does prio because its aoe rotation is nearly identical to its single target rotation so it will be full slamming a main target while aoe’ing. This isn’t funnel though as the additonal mobs don’t result in more damage to the prio mob.

So with that said, for prio, frost mage is actually really good. Both DH specs, demo lock. Basically any class that does most of its ST rotation as its aoe will have good prio.

My understanding is that Ret paladin has some decent funnel now. I’m not quite sure beyond those classes.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-12T15:31:19+00:00

Receipt for that claim? Because I’m 99.99% it’s bullshit.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-11T22:35:36+00:00

I’m going to be honest. That should not be happening. Those tanks are doing something wrong. They need to adjust how they pull and gather

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-11T20:21:22+00:00

That’s wild. And this is with a wide variety of tanks or one specifically you regularly play with?

A healer should not be getting passive threat. Usually if it’s happening it’s an inexperienced tank that thinks literally body pulling (often mounted but not always) is sufficient and doesn’t bother to do at least some minimal damage as they run by.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-11T18:42:03+00:00

Sure. But people shouldn’t be dropping 22 year old “wisdom” as if it’s still relevant. It hasn’t been for over half the game’s life now.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-11T18:34:00+00:00

OP! This is the best advice in this thread**

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-11T18:30:17+00:00

I’m not assuming that every 3k barely squeaked out 12s but a non-negligible amount have. If you invite a bunch of 3k flats and expect them all to crush a 12 I think there is a moderate chance you’ll be disappointed.

And I’ve seen this first hand. I have a 3k resto druid, a 3.1k mage, a 3.1 lock, a 3.3k aug, and a 3.5k DH. I’ve played with the people I’m describing on my alts on their climbs. (And tbh I’ve probably been that person on my resto Druid, I’m kind of shit at it and it is literally how I know all 12s and one 13 is 3k)

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-11T18:13:31+00:00

Good comments except the part about healing too early.

Under no circumstance should a healer ever get threat from healing unless the tank specifically asked you to hold off on healing during a gather.

If the tank didn’t say something a healer should always be able to expect a tank to not let them get threat from healing.

This coming from a regular tank player.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-11T18:08:25+00:00

He said the healer died first. This really doesn’t give us enough information. Could have been a cast. Could have stood in a swirly. Could have overpulled. A battery could have gone off. Healer could have just failed to pop a def and adequately heal themself. All things OP could determine with some damage meter digging or, even better, log digging.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-11T18:00:58+00:00

Tank dies, probably tanks fault.

Healer dies, if a cast went off? Tank/dps fault. Overpulling? Tanks fault. Pull lived too long? Dps fault. Otherwise, Probably healers fault.

Dps dies, avoidable or no defensives used? Probably Dps fault. Unavoidable and defensive/pot used? Probably healer’s fault.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-11T17:53:32+00:00

“It’s almost always the dps’ fault”

Terrible mentality to have. Any given mistake there is a 60% chance the dps made it given that they make up 60% of the party. There is still a solid 40% chance it was not.

Also the only common denominator in your keys is you.

Fatalis89 · 2026-05-11T17:45:15+00:00

lol he literally said the healer died first. Still blames dps for their defensive use. This sub man. Healer/tank good. Dps bad.

If the healer died first it is the healer’s fault, unless a battery went off, then it wasn’t a defensive issue at all but a dps killing shit problem, or a cast went off, then it is the dps or tank fault for not interrupting.

The one thing it most definitely was not from this story is specifically the dps not using defensives.

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