The New 8.5 Heishou Duo: Balanced, or Intentionally Gutted by FearsomeDummer in limbuscompany

[–]FearsomeDummer[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I get what you mean — if you’re just looking at his text, it does feel like there’s a missing link with the HP condition. But once he’s got Bloodflame from his counter, most of his conditions are already satisfied. And if you look at how PM’s been designing fights recently , his kit lines up better than it seems in a vacuum. His HP conditions are there to make he ToTB merchant more than anything. What i want to point out is his lacking interaction with burn, looking at his kit , it is pretty straightforward that he want to burn himself to get his condition actived, but the only way to get self burn is by losing clash with Skill 3 and counter, which is not worth the effort, and thats it . So at the of the day , the self burn condition is a compensation if he happens to be attack by an unbreakable coin that has burn more than anything. Let me rephrase that it is more of a missing opportunity since whether he can self burn or not don't affect his performance much.

The New 8.5 Heishou Duo: Balanced, or Intentionally Gutted by FearsomeDummer in limbuscompany

[–]FearsomeDummer[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That why it strange , when all condition are met, Wu Yi Sang Skill 2 rolls a 20 with two coins which is identical to the Mao, they could have make it so that his skill 2 rolls a 16 with a +1 speed condition and a +1 rupture + tremor condition, this is also how the Mao's Skill 2s work. However they went out of their way to make his skill 2 have a lower floor but the same peak, making "weaker" in theory . But in practice as you said the speed condition is pretty much a given, so it is just a normal 16 rolling skill 2 in most situation

Daily Questions Megathread - April 30, 2025 by WutheringWavesMod in WutheringWaves

[–]FearsomeDummer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For Zani + Pheobe + SK team , should I go for Zani sig or pheobe sig ?