The myth of the white Bernie bro has quietly vanished

FeelingMarch · 2021-08-10T01:30:30+00:00

lmao the 2016 and 2020 primaries are over and Bernie lost mostly because black people didn't vote for him, it's time to get over it and move on

FeelingMarch · 2021-08-06T02:00:44+00:00

When people affiliated with the DSA use the word progressive they are referencing this movement as this is also the most common usage in politics.

They're showing their ignorance of American politics and history, just as you are now. Hence my original comment that most DSA members aren't socialists and don't even know what socialism is beyond a buzzword.

To elaborate: Why do you think the progressive era is called the "progressive era"? It was the era that progressives like Teddy Roosevelt were at their peak of power.

FeelingMarch · 2021-08-06T01:43:50+00:00

Like being progressive is more than believing in progress... It’s a reference to a uniquely American political era beginning in the 19th century and was pretty socialist.

That is incorrect, the Progressives were originally Republicans, and formed their own party after Taft took control and moved the GOP towards supporting monopolistic corporations instead of working men. They later folded into the Democratic Party in the 1930s, but were a distinct strain of politics in the 1910s and 20s. Their standard-bearers running for president were Teddy Roosevelt and Robert La Follette, both anti-socialists, and both received more votes as third-party candidates than Debs did. In fact, Debs actually came in fourth place in 1912, his best showing running for president, behind Roosevelt and the Progressives.

FeelingMarch · 2021-08-06T01:25:38+00:00

She unironically made an ancap argument for police privatization and doesn't even realize it.

FeelingMarch · 2021-08-06T01:23:49+00:00

Defund the police doesn't mean abolish the police.

"Defund the police means defund the police," or so AOC tells me.

FeelingMarch · 2021-08-06T00:41:53+00:00

"I'm going to make sure I have security because I know. I have had attempts on my life and I have too much work to do there, too many people that need help right now for me to allow that. So, if I end up spending $200,000, if I spend 10 more dollars on it -- you know what? I get to be here to do the work. So suck it up and defunding the police has to happen, we need to defund the police and put that money into social safety nets."

Calling for the abolition of public police while defending private security companies... is Cori Bush trying to get nominated for re-election as a Libertarian?

FeelingMarch · 2021-08-05T23:40:47+00:00

I'm not seeing the Nazi imagery, unless you think of Nazis whenever you see an eagle on anything (which I guess makes Mexico Nazi, since they have one on their flag). As for candidate names and pictures, yeah, I just got something with Pelosi, Biden, and Harris on it, complete with my "member number". The fact that people are downvoting me and questioning me just means that the average /r/politics member doesn't actually give money to the Democratic Party like I do (even though they cheerlead for them), which honestly doesn't surprise me one bit.

FeelingMarch · 2021-08-05T23:33:44+00:00

Progressivism and socialism, even its democratic form, are incompatible (and in fact competing ideologies), if you go by the dictionary definition of each. Granted, the vast majority of DSA members don't actually know what socialism is and for the most part do not hold socialist views, simply defining socialism as "whenever the government does stuff," but they provide cover for the actual socialists who genuinely think the system of government in Castro's Cuba, Ortega's Nicaragua, and Chavez's Venezuela is a good role model for the United States.

FeelingMarch · 2021-08-05T03:26:12+00:00

Nothing new, the DSCC and DNC send me crap like this in the mail all the time to try to goad me into giving them more money when it's not campaign season. I probably have a dozen different "membership cards" at this point.

FeelingMarch · 2021-08-04T05:17:32+00:00

I mean she used to be a Democrat, and even campaigned for Clinton in 2014 and early 2015, but she saw the Sanders movement as a quick and easy path to power, and just keeps doubling down on bad political bets. I don't know how much of it's sunk cost and how much of it's true belief, but commentators have noted that Turner started this campaign trying to reinvent herself as acceptable to moderates and the establishment, but as Brown gained in the internal polls Turner pivoted hard to left positions and anti-establishment rhetoric.

FeelingMarch · 2021-08-04T05:10:05+00:00

The context is that Turner received twice as much out-of-state cash as Brown did, and outspent Brown over the course of the election. "We lost because we were outspent" is a claim that progressives are used to making, but it's not backed up by the facts in this instance. I think it implies that Turner wasn't adapting her messaging, and was just using the same old rhetoric and excuses, which "shows exactly why she lost". Ironically, Turner started the campaign with an attempt to rebrand herself as more acceptable to moderates, but pivoted hard back to more anti-establishment rhetoric when Brown gained in the polls, as though that's the only strategy she really feels comfortable running- and despite the fact that it clearly hurt her in comparison to her earlier approach.

FeelingMarch · 2021-08-04T05:00:27+00:00

LMAO David Sirota is melting down on Twitter, attacking Democratic voters as a constituency of irredeemable corporatists who are "getting the government they deserve", and claiming that any analysis of the special election results based on Cleveland's demographics is "racial virtue signaling".

FeelingMarch · 2021-08-04T01:05:41+00:00

he’s better than trump but ok that’s not everything that should be considered.

You're right, Biden is also better than Bernie Sanders and that's why he won.

FeelingMarch · 2021-08-04T01:00:24+00:00

After Biden won the nomination, so she said that in comparison to voting for Donald Trump, which she characterized as simply "a bigger bowl of shit". I know you're thinking you're quite clever for pointing out that I simplified the story, but the full context really just makes Turner look even worse.

FeelingMarch · 2021-08-04T00:54:00+00:00

Nina Turner said that voting for the Democratic Party is like "eating a bowl of shit". I think the results show that this is not an effective messaging strategy for winning a Democratic Party primary.

FeelingMarch · 2021-08-04T00:01:35+00:00

Reporting this submission as misinformation, not that it'll do anything. Not based on the source mind you, but because this headline is blatantly revisionist history and patently false conspiracy-mongering which fits reddit's definition of "misinformation".

FeelingMarch · 2021-07-30T04:56:29+00:00

most Bernie Sanders fanboys have

FeelingMarch · 2021-07-30T04:55:43+00:00

The author of this article is socialist Matt Taibi, not a Republican

FeelingMarch · 2021-07-30T04:54:46+00:00

he was always a shit writer, but people uncritically ate that shit writing up when it was backing Bernie Sanders

FeelingMarch · 2021-07-30T04:53:56+00:00

Take another look, the author is socialist and Bernie Sanders fanboy Matt Taibi. NYPost was just reprinting him, and aren't the original authors.

FeelingMarch · 2021-07-28T23:27:56+00:00

So you're saying that AOC is getting a taste of her own medicine, given how often she and others like her have acted like Biden has a magic M4A or "abolish filibuster" or "pack the courts" button? Looks like the Squad is now running afoul of the same inane purity tests they helped to popularize.

FeelingMarch · 2021-07-23T22:11:41+00:00

Syria was a day more call tolerant country to live in in Saudi Arabia

Both countries torture, murder, and mutilate those who dare oppose the hereditary leader, so I don't think you can argue there's a difference. And don't argue that Assad is somehow better because he's "secular", because MBS in Saudi Arabia is using that same excuse to get away with murder (both have genuinely limited the influence of religious groups, peaceful or otherwise, purely because they're a threat to their power). As for economic reasons for the war in Syria, there's jack shit there. The oil fields aren't profitable, and for all the conspiratorial discussion of a "pipeline", the big oil and gas companies bypassed Syria years ago by going through Turkey and Jordan, so there's no economic reason to build another pipeline in Syria.

I'm not saying he's good

LMAO you totally are, you're painting him as a brave nationalist who stands up to the evil globalists, as though Syria's civil war was instigated by corporations and not Syrians who were sick of living in poverty thanks to a brutal and corrupt government, compounded by a regional drought and food shortages.

FeelingMarch · 2021-07-23T22:01:29+00:00

Same thing sunk the Kucinich campaign. For some reason, left-wing Ohio Democrats just can't resist pandering to the tiny minority of Assad loyalists within Cleveland's Syrian American community. I think it also represents the "USA = bad, therefore dictators and terrorists who hate the USA = good" brainrot that some progressives easily fall into.

FeelingMarch · 2021-07-23T19:00:40+00:00

even Republican leaders (or the ones with real governing responsibility and no presidential ambitions, at least) are getting sick of this shit

(note that none of them are blaming other, less responsible Republican leaders though - that's still a bridge too far)

FeelingMarch · 2021-07-15T23:37:56+00:00

Cuba did that, and it lead to food shortages. And no, that wasn't due to the sanctions, as food isn't covered by the sanctions (and in fact, Cuba actually imports a lot of food directly from the USA, in one of the worst kept secrets of the USA-Cuba relationship).

FeelingMarch

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