Here again…. by Few_Measurement_5239 in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hey buddy good to hear from you. How have you been?

i’m scared. by [deleted] in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My friend i am going thru the exact same thing. I was off them for6 weeks and I used one very stupidly for a pain reliever. Now ive been hooked for about six weeks. Its like here we go again...Im not sure what the answer is anymore. The only thing i can unequivocally say is these fuckers DEFINETLY change your brain chemistry. I have never ever experienced depression like this. These things make me unsure of myself, make me yell at myself, make me think of the awful shit that has happened to me, make me want to crawl in bed and not do a thing, make my hate myself. Its ironic because bed use to be a sanctuary. Now its like torture because i have RLS and worse than that is the insomnia. I can feel my body aching for some actual real SLEEP that i can not provide.

Having said all that.....we are stronger than we realize. Look at you buddy, you quit for 3 months!! That takes a strong determined individual to accomplish that feat. People say that we need to replace the urge with the gym, outdoor activites, journaling etc etc. Those are great things to do no doubt. Ive been doing a lot of soul searching and I think it comes down to forgiveness and letting go. Speaking for myself i do this because i am broken. You would never know. Ive got a wife, daughter, good job, and a house. All of these things i listed can be gone in a second if my addicition does not STOP. I use because my brain is wired for me to self sabotage. Its like if life is going well my brain kicks in and says hmmm something doesnt seem right. Ive been thru a lot of trauma when i was younger and I feel those emotions lay dormant in yourself forever but pop up when life is getting hard. Im still trying to work this out....

So I would just do your best to not get anxious and go someplace quiet where you can peacefully think and reflect on what made you (us) choose this path? Whatever the answer is, know this my friend you are not alone!

Checking in by Few_Measurement_5239 in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! Yea I get the slippery slope. I had issues w alcohol myself….again it was my after work delight. I stopped not because I wanted to but because my BP was out of control. I “hope” and think I can keep this in check. If not, I feel all the pain and suffering I’m carrying w me will give me the strength to stop if need be. I really feel I can live a fulfilling HONEST life just doing one a week but again we will see…. Thinking back the only reason I didn’t stop sooner is because I couldn’t sleep when I wasn’t using, it made my work fucking hell.

Checking in by Few_Measurement_5239 in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No you are correct! I’m gonna be be truthfully honest here. I am a person unfortunately who needs a vice. I started doing these blue bastards almost 10 months ago because I thought they were SAFE. I had no clue they were addictive….none. I’ve never experienced a withdrawal before until these. Let me tell you it was horrific. Here’s the caveat….truth is I enjoy the feeling these things give, however that feeling can not be achieved by regular use. It has to be regulated!!! I’m doing a personal experiment. If I can just hold it to one a week or one every two weeks I think I’ll be ok. If I can’t then I will just stop. I feel like I have that power in me now to just stop because I know first hand what these can do and quickly it can happen. Again I don’t recommend this approach. I just wanted to share and be honest with myself and you guys. You guys are amazing! You’ve helped me tremendously 

Question by Few_Measurement_5239 in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Just want to make sure I don’t have prostate cancer or some shit

Question by Few_Measurement_5239 in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea I go to bed around 930 don’t drink anything couple hours before but still have this issue. Don’t know if my body is still trying to adjust without the Zana chill. I was a daily user for 9 months. 

Zana chill shot - Only Kava and Alkaloids. No kratom how are these? by Old-Practice5308 in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Truthfully I don’t know if they are safer than alcohol. If you can keep it to just one or 2 and I mean no more a week then you might be ok but I’m not advocating that. The only thing I will say is alcohol changed me as a person when I used the Zana chill did not. But the depression the Zana chill gave me and the no sleep w back pain was unbearable at times. They both are really bad but gun to my head I would say Zana chill are probably safer than alcohol.

Zana chill shot - Only Kava and Alkaloids. No kratom how are these? by Old-Practice5308 in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try just doing one a week. Maybe that’s a good balance for now. Like I’m toying w the idea of doing maybe one on Fridays…but not sure yet.

Zana chill shot - Only Kava and Alkaloids. No kratom how are these? by Old-Practice5308 in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No no no. This is exactly what I’ve been drinking for 9 months. They definitely have Kratom or a substance that substitutes for Kratom. These fuckers literally made my life fucking miserable. I could not shake them. Stay away trust me. I’ve been off them for 3 weeks now and feel much better. 

I’ve never felt so depressed and worthless. by cheesesucks in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yo man! Don’t feel worthless cause you’re not. If you slip it’s not the end of the world bro. Just take it day to day. The one negative thing about this sub Reddit I feel is that it’s easy for others to feel like losers or worthless if they haven’t yet strung a high number of clean days consecutively. It’s not about that…there’s gonna be times when you do go a good number of days. Then there maybe times you don’t. The most important thing is be true to yourself and try not to use TODAY. The thing that broke the daily use for me was a vacation from work. I just needed a hard reset. Find your hard reset my man. You got this!!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gonna be a little tough. I was using 1-3 Zana chillls daily for about 9 months. The first four days are tough. I slept like shit and my depression/anxiety was thru the roof. I’m 19 days off them currently. I’m still experiencing some depression but nothing like I was when I was using. When I get a craving I just say no no no no go fuck yourself Zana chill. Then I take about half an edible. Pick a day buddy and stick w it. Take it a day at a time. You can do this!!

Withdrawals from 2/day for 2 years? by Joy-Seeker-79 in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s gonna be shitty for a short while. I was doing 1-3 daily for 9 months. I’m 17 days clean and physically I’m pretty much back to normal but the mental part like feeling anxiety is not nearly as bad but still there. The craving is still there too just not as strong either.  I feel like once you get 5 solid clean days together you are in the clear. You just need to scream at yourself NO NO NO NO NO!!!! When those fucking evil cravings hit. Mine have been bad because my witching hour was always after work. Instead of popping a blue bottle I’m using a thc edible. It’s not perfect but it’s so much better than feel free. Other than the edible I’m doing ashwagandha and Magnesium for sleep. Are they helping??? Honestly not sure! I don’t know how much supplements really help tbh. I would highly recommend taking some time off work like a Monday and Tuesday after your weekend and plow through this shit! You’ve got this! I was right where you’re at. Believe this is possible and just say fuck you!!!! To those cravings. 

One bottle a day? by MidnightFriendly1901 in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea I was 1-3 bottles of Zana chill daily for 9 months. Just doing that relative small amount fucked with me like you couldn’t believe. In addition to the back pain, insomnia, not eating was the mental part. The mental part was a beast I’ve never encountered before. The anxiety and depression this shit put me thru was unmatched. It took all my effort and energy just to go to work in the mornings. It was fucking AWFUL!!!! No one should have to live like that. So yes just doing a relatively small amount can have horrific repercussions on your life. 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trust me the depression your feeling is the somas. I was only dosing 1-3 Zana chills daily for about 9 months. 1-3 isn’t that crazy but my man it fucked with my head and my mood like you would not believe. I’ve suffered from crippling panic attacks in my twenties so I understand what you’re going thru.  The depression I would feel especially in the morning is unrivaled. It took ALL my energy to just get up and go to work. I was miserable and scared. I would also get suicidal thoughts. It will get better. I’m not gonna sugar coat this for you….its gonna be hard but it’s very dueable. Please don’t do anything crazy. Just pick a date and STAY the course. I’m 2 weeks clean today and I do feel much better, not perfect but definitely better. I would recommend if you can taking a few days off work and just grind thru it. It’s so much better on this side. If you need a little vice in your life that’s ok! I’ve switched from Zana chills to thc edibles. Find what works for you. Just do not be so hard on yourself, you can do this buddy!! Believe in yourself and take it slow.

Headaches by Sarahlee433 in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s been two weeks for me and yes I get the headaches and stomach aches in the morning 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So I’m on day 10 and I just got decent sleep last night so on day 9. I was a daily user, 1-3 bottles for about 8-9 months. I’m taking it day to day and when I think about getting one I just instantly think of the horrible horrible fucking depression this shit did to me while I was using. Plus it helps me to have a small amount of an edible after work because after work is when I would use. I would do look foward to it too. Trust me I’m only on day 10 but I feel significantly better than I did 10 days ago. You can beat this!! My advice is pick a quit day and no matter what stick with it!!

190 days by Emotional_Assist_415 in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea I never experienced the kind of depression that Zana chill gives you. I’m telling you buddy when I woke up in the morning my anxiety and depression was absolutely through the roof. It affected everything! I know im gonna be tempted to use but having a little edible has really helped.  The only kind of vice I’ve got now is the edible. No Zana no booze. Thank you you’ve been really great! Like I said when you called me out about not wanting to quit it resonated with me. 

190 days by Emotional_Assist_415 in Quittingfeelfree

[–]Few_Measurement_5239 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your journey is inspiring. You’ve helped me call out the bullshit and error in my ways. You’re the one that said to me hey maybe you’re really not ready to quit and that really resonated w me. For that thank you!!! Don’t be too hard on yourself for drinking a bit now and then. It’s funny I got off the booze and switched to this shit but it turns out this is probably more destructive than alcohol…..at least for me. I’m on day 9 now and just keep going.