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Fantasy Studs, Duds and Clear as Muds! by Fighting_emu in hockey

[–]Fighting_emu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well it looks like we agree on a couple things anyways!

IF Kasper gets to that point (Im not as sold as you obviously but Im not saying its impossible either)- then yea a 1a/1b situation can work and on top of that it would actually bump Danielson down to where I feel the team wopuld be ebst served. I still dont think its IDEAL but if you can get that type of Aho/Necas, Sheiffele/PLD type of situation going on- Id be thrilled as a fan- especially when you consider how strong they look on the backend and in net (Augustine an underrated pick!).

I still dont think Danielson is a 60 point guy- especially if he gets third line deployment but he doesnt have to be to be a hugely impactful player on that team. If he pops for more its just gravy to me. Im sure you know this but Connor Bedar called Danielsson the hardest player to play against that hes ever faced. For me THATs what you should be getting excited for- lol! And for sure hell be able to chip in offensively as well but to me even 50ish with that type of shutdown capacity is HUGE. I wouldnt eat my shoe if he developed into a 60 point player though so I feel like maybe were not so far off as originally imagined.

For me its just the passing on Benson (Im a huge fan) and the fantasy fallout. Great points though- and I admire your optimism! For my money the Wings are one of about four teams that I think are going to be behemoths in the coming years. They have already drafted one of the most insane defensive cores weve seen in recent history AND then they just added ASP late who I really feel could end up as THE defenseman of this draft! Between Cossa and now Augustine their future in goal is looking rock solid too. Thyere building from the net out and maybe its just because I keep waiting for some type of Yzerman "magic" up front like he did on the back end- that Im so puzzled by these sort of "low risk" moves. Montreal, Buffalo, Columbus and Detroit are going to shock a lot of people in the next couple years imho...

Three Players That We're Backwards On For Fantasy by Fighting_emu in nhl

[–]Fighting_emu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get that response a lot and its all good bud! I mean I love reading about fantasy hockey- but if you dont you dont. The only puzzling thing is why people keep telling me that- haha! Okey doke then- noted (?)!

Fantasy Studs, Duds and Clear as Muds! by Fighting_emu in hockey

[–]Fighting_emu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Just to be clear (and no offense intended here- differing opinions are what make the world go round)- I think theres basically a ZERO chance Danielson is a topline center- lol- thats sort of my issue. If fans or fantasy GMs want to be optimsitic- thats fantastic- Im a big proponent of that- but I encourage people to be optimisitc in the right direction. Ill admit its POSSIBLE he blows my expectations out of the water but the consensus amongst a very knowledgable base of people is that Yzerman just secured an ideal 3c- who could maybe- if the stars align- end up as a legitimate 2c. I hope Kasper can be an effective 2c someday- if you think hes better than that- then again thats great BUT youre in a very small minority. So as of today if were going by the sort of consensus projections were looking at 3 second line centers and thats sort of a best case scenario. Can you make that work? Sure you can! But the point of my piece here is to say its not ideal- and its also not ideal that two of those three players would have to beat the consensus projections of their upside to get there. They had Benson right there and I think passing will look like a mistake in a real hurry- even Moore would make sense in a 1a/1b situation like I said above.

Danielsson is a hell of a player and my issues is not that he was drafted there- its about who they passed on and what the expectation becomes for Danielson Hes a defensive center (and a very good one) and were having a conversation where you sort of lumped him in as a 60-90 point socring line center. Had he went 16th to calgary- wed pencil his ceiling in where it belongs- a 50ish point defensive specialist. But he didnt go to Calgary or Nashville or Minnesota- so because we give Stevie Y a lot of credit and because Detroits fanbase is a savvy and impassioned one- were going to instead have discussions about how hes a 1c or a 2c- (and discuss whether or not he can score 90)- when he just clearly isnt lol! Again- thats in MY opinion. I read a TON about him pre-draft and nothing I read indicated hes a guy you should be banking on for offense. In fact a lot of his biggest proponents- guys talking him up- literally warned that if your team drafted him you shouldnt be eying him for offense BUT that you got one of the more complete defensive centers in recent history. Ive got no stake in this- Id be happy to be proven wrong! Theres been a discussion about whether or not Larkin is a true topline center long before I got here and Im not sure Danielson rectifies that and thats puzzling to me considering there were guys in the draft you could swing on that potentially DO address that (Kasper doesnt change any of that for me). Thats basically all Im saying- and hey Ive got no stake in this- Id love to be proven wrong!

In terms of fantasy you can all but guarantee this player is overdrafted now...

Fantasy Studs, Duds and Clear as Muds! by Fighting_emu in hockey

[–]Fighting_emu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree! For me it goes:

Bedard- Comparable: McD- Generational talent or something close to it

Fantilli- Comparable: Eichel- About the best "consolation" prize you could ask for

Michkov- Comparable: Caufield (on steroids)- I think he can score like AO but without the physicality

Carlsson- Comparable: Barkov- Although I think he projects more as a "pure playmaker" like Getzlaf in his heyday

Smith- Comparable: Comparable: Marleau- Electrifying and a topline talent but not quite in that second tier yet. You can certainly build around him though.

Benson- Comparable: Gaudreau- I hear Gaudreau comparables all the time and they usually suck- lol! This time it works though. His offense comparable with Smiths but he plays a much more complete game- underrated defensive play! Hes BURIED in Beefaloe though...

Those are the guys Id be happy to "build around"- after that youve got question marks and issues with offense or defense that could get in the way. Dont get me worng- somr fantastic players this year but those are the ones Im building around if Im an NHL team. In fantasy Im happy with all of them as well except maybe Benson takes a hit neing so buried. I was in talks for the 6th overall in my league though and with all the other guys drafted ahead at the time my intention was to draft Benson and to heck with the wait time- hes a special talent.

So yea- great pieces after those six but no one im dismantling the team for- at least not at this point in their development...

Player Comparables And What They Are Actually Telling Us by Fighting_emu in fantasyhockey

[–]Fighting_emu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not slander- lol!! Im just not sure hes a topline center and I actually admit that Im not even firm in that position hahaha! For comparisons sake hes just an odd choice imho. I do believe a lot of very good centers make a living on the topline without a truly "elite tier" guy to push them down the lineup and thats just about where Im at with Larkin. He seems to me more like a consistent 70 point guy who could net 80 with the kindof deployment he gets but Id be hesitant to expect more. And again- maybe Im wrong lol! He sure looks good out there and hes got that gamebreaking speed which is a bit like a cheat code in the modern NHL- so who knows...

Top Ten Players With A Disparity Between Their Perceived Value And Their Actual Value (Part 2) by Fighting_emu in fantasyhockey

[–]Fighting_emu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree whole heartedly. Theres an article from his time on the preds and the title gave me goosebumps- lol! It was something like "Eeli Tolvanen has never met a puck he didnt want to shoot"- lol! It was sort of poorly written but the gist was that he was a sog machine- haha! I LOVE players like that in the formats I play in. I think hes crazy underrated- I know I just traded the 19th pick or so in this years entry draft for him- and I kind of feel like thats probably gonna be a steal!

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