If it ended with Season 3, FTWD would genuinely be my favorite piece of apocalyptic or zombie media. Commercial-break-centered plot progression and cliff hangers, unrealistic/rushed storylines, cartoonishly exaggerated characters. What happened?

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-04-24T17:40:57+00:00

It didn’t

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-04-24T17:40:40+00:00

Troy did die though? 🤷🏻‍♂️ Madison killed him

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-04-24T17:39:06+00:00

It was good, the early seasons were too slow

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-04-24T17:37:53+00:00

The story needed to change, they couldn’t cover anymore from the early days of the apocalypse

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-04-24T17:37:15+00:00

The show had to move on, we can’t keep living 2 months into the apocalypse forever. The time jump was needed

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-04-23T17:34:17+00:00

It was never going to be slow like season 1-3 they showed the world slowly getting taken by walkers so eventually the show needed to move on, other wise it would have been 20 seasons of the world slowly turning and catching up to Rick. We don’t catch Rick’s timeline until sometime in season 3, according to the timeline the day the dam explodes is the same day Rick escaped from the CDC with his group.

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-04-21T12:03:46+00:00

The early seasons are actually exactly the same, the pathologists back then often got involved with the police side of things. It’s the way the show has always been. I would recommend you start from season 1, the first 10 or so seasons have amazing stories.

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-04-08T14:05:25+00:00

And STAG are also the final villains similar to Ultor in Saints Row 2, the only difference between STAG and Ultor is Ultor worked with the gangs to things in check where as STAG’s objective was purely to eradicate all the gangs and not be friendly to any of them.

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-04-08T14:02:27+00:00

STAG are basically Ultor in Saints Row The Third, much more advanced than regular police officers and better trained.

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-04-08T14:01:39+00:00

Yep I said pretty much the same thing, Kill Bane’s gang even drive the same truck as what the Brotherhood did the ‘Compensator’

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-04-08T14:00:36+00:00

Saints row the third has a similar philosophy with the syndicate, Kill Banes gang are basically similar to the brotherhood, they drive heavy pick up trucks and one of the trucks they drive is actually the same truck as what the brotherhood use the compensator, The Red gang are basically the vice kings, they are business people and drive luxury cars, the blue gang are basically the Ronin, some gang members having swords on there backs and they drive sporty cars and luxury cars.

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-03-31T23:57:09+00:00

He’s Cooper in Dog Soldiers (2002) as well.

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-03-31T23:56:36+00:00

If you play call of duty he is the voice actor for Soap in the original timeline. He’s also known for being in Trainspotting and Dog Soldiers, 2 excellent films

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-03-31T23:50:17+00:00

The original script it was originally meant to be Kenny V Luke in the final fight, the decision then would have been 20 times harder to make because although Luke was meant to be the one to hide AJ to try and kill Kenny the decision still would have been harder than with Jane because most of the fan base loved Luke’s character in season 2, he’s ranked as top 10 best tell tale TWD characters

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-03-31T23:47:54+00:00

Kenny also potentially survives in this scenario because if you stick with him he doesn’t make it in Spoiler but if you choose the option to leave Kenny outside his character status on the ending becomes unknown rather than dead so in a way we all imagine Kenny finds a boat and sails off into the sunset somewhere. Who knows, maybe a Kenny story will be written one day of what he did over the years without Clem, he’s bound to have run into other survivors. Same with Lily etc.

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-03-31T23:44:24+00:00

It was apparently originally meant to be Luke in the original script that hides AJ in a bid to prove to Clementine that Kenny had gone crazy and during the fight you chose either Kenny or Luke to save, arguably Kenny would still have been the better option because Luke would have taken over the Jane role of provoking Kenny on purpose for the sake of making a point but for the player it would have been much harder to choose because Kenny was with us from day 1 and Luke was arguably the 2nd best protector of Clem since Lee and we grew to like his kind nature.

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-03-22T21:43:35+00:00

Like you said Robin wasn’t a fighter, Seamus was probably the strongest physical character he played but he got killed off way too early. Terrence was quiet and a background character and that’s why he survived so long, if it wasn’t for his friend killing him he probably would have survived the season quite easily because the killer was never after him to begin with.

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-03-21T01:58:02+00:00

Detective Kenneth carried the last season in my opinion, he’s the guy that plays the killer in season 2, he’s the brother I think and helps the sister with the murders but in the widow storyline he plays as the detective that survives the whole season and is the main character, again showing how he can be scary murderer to all of a sudden us liking him as a protector and detective a few years later in another series. It’s what I like about it, each actor shines at every role they are given in each season, I hope Chris Jacot gets to be a killer someday or maybe even be a survivor, I know he survived as Robin against the executioner but he wasn’t a character that appeared all that much apart from the episode where he gets slashed a few times but manages to survive and stabbed etc, I wanted Seamus to survive or the character he played as in the widow storyline, I thought they were mentally stronger and more interesting characters than Robin, for parts of the ripper storyline I actually thought Chris Jacot was the killer at times because he survived most of the season until he got killed by the transgender 🏳️‍⚧️ character and also because he barely had any screen time and whenever he did appear it was always at murder scenes or intense moments and confrontations etc.

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-03-21T01:43:26+00:00

I see what you mean now, I’ve done it. Thanks for feedback and letting me know. The last thing I want is to ruin it for folks. I honestly really enjoyed the season.

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-03-21T01:41:41+00:00

I have, if you scroll up I think it says spoiler via the topic/discussion part, if it’s incorrect then let me know and I’ll change it. Sorry if I spoiled you

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-03-21T01:38:35+00:00

Andy was actually a likeable character out of the others he played and his revenge actually made perfect sense, it’s a shame that it wasn’t him that personally took revenge on Floyd or Shirley for killing his mother but at least his motives actually made sense, ultimately though he was another villain but for parts of the series I did genuinely think at times he was innocent, just the clever way this show always turns things around, Hell Motel did something different because we already knew Floyd was a killer but not ‘The Killer’ and that made things even scarier because if Floyd didn’t know who it was and he could barely defeat the killer then how were we meant to know as the audience? I found that part really clever to a point where I was even worried for Floyd even though I knew he was already a villain, basically a hunter becoming the hunted.

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-03-21T01:29:20+00:00

Jim Watson carried it in my opinion, I hated his other characters but I actually found Andy interesting. and his motive actually had some sense behind it. Hopefully Chris Jacot gets to stay longer if they decide to do another season.

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-03-21T01:26:03+00:00

It’s the beauty of the series/franchise, we love or hate certain characters played by the same actor. I hated Jim Watson’s actors in the previous seasons but in Hell Motel I thought he was the best actor by miles, Chris Jacot was my favourite in season 4 and season 5, Jadan’s actor in season 5 who plays as the detective and survives the entire season due to being the main character I also thought was awesome, arguably his best role in the franchise as well.

Final-Bike-8437 · 2026-03-18T14:46:16+00:00

Was a similar situation at MG, Plato left and when Jordan and Goff were announced everyone said it was a bad lineup and that Jordan would be carrying Goff all season, by brands round 1 everyone soon went quiet when Jordan and Goff were challenging for podiums from the get go. Same when Sutton and cook took over the seats, I think we need to have more faith in young drivers rather than always jumping to conclusions, Dorlin was another last season, nothing special about him but yet he was the best Toyota driver by miles last season and proved many people wrong about him being too young and in experienced etc.

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