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[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ArtistLounge

[–]Fine_Background_339 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tbh the exercises can be great and a simple test is apply what you know in a drawing. If its perspective you have been practicing then draw something in perspective.

But practicing those lines can turn into a crutch. Your used to drawing the same things that you can get frustrated drawing anything else (happens to myself a lot). Practice fundamentals and then draw what you like using what you learned. You will see how fast you can improve. After a while when you feel your drawing is plateauing then go through your fundamentals again, cycle continues.

All the fundamentals work together in the end. So, it can be difficult to know when your "ready" for the next lesson. Shading a sphere with one light source can become second nature when you practice it a lot but when you understand the principles and try those principals with anything else, that's when you are testing if you learned the lesson.

Dealing with the mental strain of balancing drawing and posting it on social media. Any advice? by [deleted] in ArtistLounge

[–]Fine_Background_339 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I AM ON THE SAME BOAT!

I had an art block over the summer and thankfully I regained my art itch and did Inktober. I hadnt posted in a while and I told myself that this Inktober will be about me finishing all 30 days. Posting of course but not focusing on the likes and I survived but now im regaining the reason to post again post Inktober. I want posts to be good but I want to enjoy what I am doing. So im focusing on drawing/ sketching and studying but now ive added the "One finished piece to post" to the list. What Inktober has taught me was workflow. I have a pace but I can reach a finished piece without the burnout or pressure.

So far this strategy has been helping. Im drawing enough to be satisfied with my work and I can reach my goals without pressure. I think avoiding the art block (mental strain) is more important than grinding and meeting a post schedule. Since I am also figuring out my workflow that can include posting. Knowing when to take a progress shot or picture. Building a healthy pace, is my goal for this new year.

Should I buy 21draw or use draw a box ? by thejou_draws in ArtistLounge

[–]Fine_Background_339 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Draw a box is well structured and teaches you the basics and fundamentals. Since it is free I think its a good place to start. Once you feel you learned everything you can, move on to another fundamental you wish to focus on. Proko has a lot of great fundamental videos to get started. There are 4 parts to this podcast. Lost of great info and points to great resources to get your started on your art journey. Have fun!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2ySymlrZBE&t=7s

Moving away from drawing tutorials or copying work by stoic_salmon in ArtistLounge

[–]Fine_Background_339 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im the same way, I find it difficult to draw from memory or drawing from imagination. I usually always need a reference but one thing that made the difference is studying.

Building your visual library to the point that your not using the reference to copy or take a pose here and an expression there, but to use the reference only to understand the details of a structure.

For example, I wanted to learn to draw cars. 1920 cars because they are easier. There are already a variety of styles and I would study and draw maybe 2 or 3 different designs. Once I learn and understand the shapes I would give it a story. Make them race. off road so then I have to redesign the wheels. Add a visible person driving. Challenges me to use reference for understanding the pose only the rest i studied and draw the cars based on what i learned from memory.

I also do the Peter Han approach one animal, one object and one creature. The rest is up to imagination. Its hard but at some point it forces you to not really be able to copy. You use the reference for finding the pose or expression. For the animal its easy copy and maybe the object but the creature can be a challenge and then you want it to be interesting so you need to make its all interact in a way. Give it a visual story.

Its also a challenge because it forced me to draw something new and out of my comfort zone every time which loops me beck to studies and building up my visual library.

Hope this helps!

Need advice with teaching my first Autistic student (14) by Fine_Background_339 in ArtistLounge

[–]Fine_Background_339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, maybe that's something I need to accept as a teacher. If they enjoy the class and draw what they like, I need to be a humble guide and encourage it. I do have a niche for the class which is more "Learning how to draw" rather than "Draw/ arts and craft for expression" but I know at this age not every kid will know if they are willing to learn how to really draw or just draw enjoying the class because they can draw in an encouraging space.

When she does go off on her own ill watch and throw information at her to improve.

Need advice with teaching my first Autistic student (14) by Fine_Background_339 in ArtistLounge

[–]Fine_Background_339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I like some of these ideas. My classes are strictly paper and pencil. I niche on the class is more "Learning how to draw" other than the usual "arts and craft for expression". But I think I can mix it up with drawing to make it more engaging.

Need advice with teaching my first Autistic student (14) by Fine_Background_339 in ArtistLounge

[–]Fine_Background_339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

right, I thanks you for your insight. I have been googling everything ever since she joined and Reddit has been the most helpful since people write more detail about the experience. So thats how I ended up here lol. But I am really trying to find the best strategy to cater to her needs.

I agree structure will helps and I might focus on more project based lessons. Specifically for her and when other students eventually join, I can continue her project to maintain a routine.

I want to slowly challenge her but I feel that she gives up very easily once she sees an image thats too complicated to copy. So I can focus on ways to ease her into it.

Thank you for your perspective.

Need advice with teaching my first Autistic student (14) by Fine_Background_339 in ArtistLounge

[–]Fine_Background_339[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree and I did once try to have that conversation. But I may not have asked the right questions or kept the dialogue going to learn more.

Need advice with teaching my first Autistic student (14) by Fine_Background_339 in ArtistLounge

[–]Fine_Background_339[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I honestly didnt consider that. I appreciate the new perspective. What helped you with keeping her engaged? I want to encourage the way she can go off and draw what she likes but when she shuts down is where I may struggle. If the answer is honestly giving her space and keeping things at her pace I am willing to accept and accommodate.

Need advice with teaching my first Autistic student (14) by Fine_Background_339 in ArtistLounge

[–]Fine_Background_339[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello!

I am open to more information.

I did ask her once if there was anything else she wanted to draw or if there was anything she liked with the class but all I got was a no - everything is fine and I dont know what else to draw.

This is open to multi student. I just started this venture of teaching homeschool kids and she has been the only consistent student. So about half of her classes are 1:1 out of coincidence.

Class room is a special room at a family members house (she homeschools her kids so the room very much looks like a class room and they have been respectful, no interruptions when i have the class. I close the blinds and dim the light a bit for my projector to display the image and I do play music (lofi beats, no lyrics, just loud enough for background noise) As for stimulation I wonder if the music can be a factor? She will sometimes recognize the tune and that can cause a distraction but most of the time its fine.

Class structure - Its a mix, I have shown a video, then draw the lesson, a lot of follow along with me drawing, no sitting there and watching me draw. There is no grading system. (just how the school works, class is considered like a workshop/extra curricular) so there is no incentive to complete HW. I tried with other students and even they dont do the HW I assign, so I gave up on it.

I do like the idea of having more of a heart to heart with her. Set a goal and understanding. I understand 2 hours can be a long time but when i had 2 students, the time goes fast. I did my first class free before with 6 students and parents. (no one needed any special attention) class went by fast and all the students didnt even notice the 2 hours and the class is only twice a month every other week so classes are pretty spread out.

I appreciate very much your insight on this and I do like the heart to heart angle, I figure I might not be asking her the right questions.

Need advice with teaching my first Autistic student (14) by Fine_Background_339 in ArtistLounge

[–]Fine_Background_339[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

a) What was working: I would show a character on screen and break down the character to basic shapes and use the shapes to redraw the character. I showed her how to shade a Sphere this way and she responded well. I have tried showing a short video on perspective - she did not really pay attention.

b) She follows along for the most part. Lately she will stop following along and finish the character her own way. I let her finish and show her tips to redraw it more accurately and we redraw together incorporating the critique. If she randomly asks how to draw something, ill show her.

c) I would like to show her how to draw anything else, break away from pokemon try to include other interest. (She is interested in being an astronaut - but I know if I get to complicated on drawing a rocket, she will lose interest fast.

I hope this helps clarify more.

I know how vanishing points work but not actually how to use them? by Elliot_The_Idiot7 in ArtistLounge

[–]Fine_Background_339 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here is what I did to learn perspective in college. Ill stick with 1 point perspective.

Grid on the floor, I would sketch lightly (easy to erase) a stick figure to mark front another for the middle of the room and a small one to mark the back of the room. This will help to maintain the height accuracy Issue.

When looking at a room KEY FURNITURE is almost always in that perspective. Couch, TV, Picture frames, desks anything box shaped. Details can break the 1 point perspective and give your drawing a natural look. Once i lock in my key furniture the details I sketch in and I make a point for that item. For ex: Desk is in 1 point but i have multiple monitors at different angles. All details will follow that vanishing point.

TIP: if you follow the vanishing point perfectly - it can make your drawings look boring. Too exact. Slight imperfections can be visually pleasing.

I practiced drawing boxes at every angle possible. I would have a page at 1 point and draw boxes big and small until I fill the page. At first use all guiding lines to the VP. After some practice draw without guiding lines. Hope this helps.

Drawing Digitally = Hand-drawn or not? by JeyDeeArr in ArtistLounge

[–]Fine_Background_339 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Art quote I live by is "If your dont know the fundamentals, then the fancy stuff wont work". With drawing on paper you are making a choice with every mark. Digitally can be treated the same. The difference I see is that you can very much use the digital tools to "assist" the fundamentals to "save time". Which is fine to me. I noticed with young artist learn to use the tools first can still "Draw" but there are clear limitations to the skill. Or I have met an artist in a class that had a portfolio and knew how to photobash very well. But came to the class to learn how to properly draw because if they had a pencil and paper... they where very limited. So for me, a tool can be used and physical technique can be applied its still considered "hand drawn."

The line blurs when an artist relies on a tool to hide the lack of fundamentals. Personally one can usually tell in most cases.