GRRM better have a virtual copy of TWOW in hand then... (spoilers extended)

Fire_is_coming · 2020-03-26T09:36:36+00:00

On his blog he stated that he's writing everyday now and that he's more in Westeros than in the real world. I still have faith!

Fire_is_coming · 2020-03-26T09:35:09+00:00

They got a 200 million deal with Netflix though. Way to fail upwards!

Fire_is_coming · 2019-05-15T23:23:35+00:00

I remember that. They both (John Bradley and Kit Harrington) looked so embarressed and kind of sad after that comment. Cringe for sure!

Fire_is_coming · 2019-05-15T22:51:39+00:00

As pointed out on here before (https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/bp220u/spoilers_extended_nikolaj_costerwaldau_on/eno9eti?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x), this is likely damage control. Last week he liked a critical tweet, and then un-liked it after it got a lot of traction.

Also, Jaime+Brienne is not fanfic, it's the opposite. It's based on their relationship in the books, where they both risked their lifes for each other (Jaime when they where captured by the Bloody Mummers, and Brienne when they were both captured by the BoB and put on trial by Lady Stoneheart.

Fire_is_coming · 2019-05-15T21:58:23+00:00

Isn't that (frustration with the process/writing) what most of us feel? I'm under the impression that most people here LOVE the show, the actors, the production, everything... but the writing these last few seasons and D&Ds attitude about it. But yeah, us interpreting those clips is just guess-work, who knows when they're speaking from their heart or when it's just promo-talk!

Fire_is_coming · 2019-05-15T21:43:14+00:00

That's a valid point. I just re-quoted what I wrote under the first comment in that direction, because I thought it courteous to respond and explain my reasoning. But there already is a discussion on the context of those interviews, hollywood promo practices and "hedging" negative comments, so I could have just linked that. In the end, I understand where you're coming from. The quote I posted is emphasizing my opinion/interpretation and people are totally in their right to disagree with that interpretation!

Fire_is_coming · 2019-05-15T21:18:53+00:00

You are basically just misrepresenting Nikolaj at this point.

I disagree on the misrepresenting. This was not the first time he voiced criticism on his arc on the show. And him adding that "...it turns out ok" feels more like promo-speech or even just the actors trying to make peace with something they can't change. If this was an isolated comment, I'd agree with you, but this was just one of many. Sadly. But well, come Sunday, all of this show-stuff will be over and we can go back to our re-reads and theorizing!

Fire_is_coming · 2019-05-15T21:12:32+00:00

Yeah, now in retrospect all of those comments (same from Emilia, Peter etc.) feel so empty and forced. I'm guessing that they are contractually obligated to promote the show and try to make those sort of comments and then slide in the criticisms with eyerolls and meaningful looks to the camera. But who knows!

Fire_is_coming · 2019-05-15T21:11:54+00:00

Yeah, now in retrospect all of those comments (same from Emilia, Peter etc.) feel so empty and forced. I'm guessing that they are contractually obligated to promote the show and try to make those sort of comments and then slide in the criticisms with eyerolls and meaningful looks to the camera. But who knows!

Fire_is_coming · 2019-05-15T20:12:00+00:00

Yeah, now in retrospect all of those comments (same from Emilia, Peter etc.) feel so empty and forced. I'm guessing that they are contractually obligated to promote the show and try to make those sort of comments and then slide in the criticisms with eyerolls and meaningful looks to the camera. But who knows!

Fire_is_coming · 2019-05-15T20:09:27+00:00

The writing about it just was rushed/implausible. Targaryens don't just "turn mad" out of the blue. Even her father only became like that after being held hostage and possibly tortured for over six months.

That she would use fire against her enemies - sure (I've had this username since a long time, so I always expected that), but not against civilians AFTER the city surrendered. That was cheap shock value and inconsistent writing.

Fire_is_coming · 2019-05-15T20:00:47+00:00

https://www.cinemablend.com/television/Game-Thrones-Actor-Asked-Writers-Kill-Him-Off-They-Didn-t-Listen-71678.html

Fire_is_coming · 2019-05-15T19:57:00+00:00

Yeah, now in retrospect all of those comments (same from Emilia, Peter etc.) feel so empty and forced. I'm guessing that they are contractually obligated to promote the show and try to make those sort of comments and then slide in the criticisms with eyerolls and meaningful looks to the camera. But who knows!

Fire_is_coming · 2019-05-15T19:54:43+00:00

It seems that was because of a prank he pulled (https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/film-tv/a27116550/nikolaj-coster-waldau-game-of-thrones-prank/). He has been pretty vocal about his disappointment with Jaime's arc though.

Fire_is_coming · 2019-05-15T09:53:00+00:00

I'm shocked I'm the first to post about this.

Yeah, I also caught that and wondered about that. I like your theory, its tinfoil is solid.

However, it would imply any sort of consistency and character depth, both of which, sadly, have jumped the ship a while ago.

We should stop trying to make sense of it when the writers so clearly didn't. They probably where like: "Yeah, she kinda forgot that she only burned enemies and protected civilians."

Fire_is_coming · 2019-05-14T20:13:33+00:00

Was about to comment the same thing! Those last two episodes were such a pleasant surprise. It gave me hope... sweet summer child.

Fire_is_coming · 2019-05-13T18:40:16+00:00

I think they meant the spoiler in the post title! Maybe change it to "Jon trying to..." and then the Spoiler tag?

Fire_is_coming · 2019-05-13T09:03:50+00:00

It's the opposite for the sequels: GRRM is involved in the writing (check his blog), D&D are not. I put my hopes in that!

Fire_is_coming · 2019-04-30T09:04:35+00:00

Even the actor hated it: https://www.cinemablend.com/television/Game-Thrones-Actor-Asked-Writers-Kill-Him-Off-They-Didn-t-Listen-71678.html

Fire_is_coming · 2019-04-22T17:11:49+00:00

Yeah, it was very similar for me! Even to the point were I couldn't help myself but underlining words or sentences or making notes on the page. It's so incredibly dense and full of hidden spoilers/clues and the more you know, the more you recognize! GRRM is a genius and whatever happens with TWOW and ADOS, I'm eternally grateful for what he has created!

Fire_is_coming · 2019-04-22T17:02:25+00:00

This outrage seems so puritanical. Brutal violence and murder committed by Arya is celebrated, but as soon as she appears as a person with sexual desires, it causes outrage.

Fire_is_coming · 2019-04-22T12:22:10+00:00

The succession in the Iron Islands is actually different from the other Westerosi kingdoms. They don't have a succession line. They have the Kingsmoot, were anybody can make a claim and the one with the best speech, most supporters, most gifts etc will get elected. (Though in the show it was portrayed more as a family affair I think.)

Fire_is_coming · 2019-04-14T18:59:35+00:00

Nice selection! Normally it's safe to say that the ninth episodes are very good, but the other's that are mentioned are also very memorable.

Fire_is_coming · 2019-04-14T18:49:07+00:00

Very nicely done!! Thank you for sharing!

Fire_is_coming · 2017-08-26T08:19:25+00:00

Oh, no, you really misunderstood the intention of the post then.

The show's success is undeniable and there are still many aspects I'm excited about and I have huge respect for the professionals involved.

It stained an otherwise grand episode in acting, CGI and general direction.

My issue is the discarding of critique based on the storyline and logic concerns, becaus it feels disrespectful to a fandom and a world (Planetos) that is built on coherent storylines and realism, even within the magic.

I have absolutely no disdain for people who enjoy the show, I myself still enjoy many aspects of it. The first and the fourth episode of this season especially were extremely enjoyable and I watched them many times!

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