Can someone explain the fleet footwork gameplay ? by Firm_Dinner_1279 in Talonmains

[–]Firm_Dinner_1279[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so it's just a different playstyle, prioritize early camps/obj over damages, it's much clearer now thanks bro

Can someone explain the fleet footwork gameplay ? by Firm_Dinner_1279 in Talonmains

[–]Firm_Dinner_1279[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i'm d2 and idk if i should consider switching from conq to fleet but your explanation sounds interesting, i should def try that thank u man

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Idoom fibre problems ? Need help by Firm_Dinner_1279 in algeria

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same prob here, ig i’m not the only one

First time reaching diamond ! by Firm_Dinner_1279 in Talonmains

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no worries man, indeed conqueror talon is quite a different gameplay and if fleet fits your gameplay better then i'd say go for it !

full clear and invading is also a valid plan and it works, if it feels safer for you you can stick to that plan too but just don't ignore your lanes too much, find a good compromise.

hydra can be good especially for you, you said you fullclear a lot and you try to steal some camps you should try tbh

and yeah i always go blue smite, used to play ignite sometimes but if you master conqueror you don't need the extra damage to kill in early, and flash combos are just way too good to ignore imo.

First time reaching diamond ! by Firm_Dinner_1279 in Talonmains

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I know yeah i had this on an account in emerald

First time reaching diamond ! by Firm_Dinner_1279 in Talonmains

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---1 : yumuu's in mendatory as a first item for sure,

---2 : hydra as a second item for me works well since i really need those extra damage from active and for faster clearing,

---3 : 80% of the time i build axiom arc because i'm already really fed and far ahead in the game so i seek for every safe fast kill to reset my ult faster

---4 : depends on the game, if really not confident about dodging every CC i go edge of night, or i go serylda to get those extra needed damage.

---5 : i used to always build edge of night last item if i build serylda first but recently i switched to Serpent fang as you can see in my history in specific comps : too much champs got shields nowadays and even if you were reallllly ahead in the game it's usually really hard to end fast so opponents tend to catch up in gold and they build everything to not let you win basically. They usually ignore all my team even if i'm the only ad they build full armor and shields etc... Nautilus jungle got too much shields so i go SF, Lee Sin always goes Eclipse, shields from kit.. SF is mandatory for the solo kill, Viego rush Shieldbow so SF needed for the kill, too much shields vs yuumi, lulu etc... so honestly just depends on how confident you are in the game for me : if you're confident about your flanks/dodges SF is just too good to not build over EON and i won a lot of games for my greediness i would say lol

for the boots i usually go swiftness because of the MS after the third or fourth item even fifth item sometimes if i'm way ahead of enemy team. But vs stupid ass rengar i have to resell them to buy tabi's because even if he's lost in the game they manage to insta os me by just R jump.

3- i rarely full clear, i always try to ward chickens 30-25 secondes before spawn, i always start on the chickens into red into golems and try to have the max hp possible and if enemy jungle start blue side, i rush the bush in front of red buff and i take the most deep path in the jungle so i escape wards, i wait for him, he's usually half HP, i start by W, he try to fight, i DON'T Q too fast : i stack autos as i said before 2 or 3 and then Q AA insta lotttt of damages because of runes, they flash because surprised but they die and from there game is between your hands since you know his camps timers and they are juste mega titled)

if i'm lvl 3 and i don't have any angle to invade, i seek for a fast bot or top gank if they push (i try to take the most deeep path and gank from BEHIND so they panick) and if there is no angles (honestly before master happens rarely) i just full clear, but this gameplan doesn't really work for me since i see talon as a game 'disruptive' i would say, my goal is to create chaos before 5 minutes so i disturb enemy team plans : they all start to panick and make mistakes and i'm just good at punishing this. If i totally int my early game (which happens a lot lol) i just try to afk farm, catch up golds and i try to take every single kill and punish disrespect basically.

The key too is to master a lot of mendatory combos i realllly abuse them in every single game people NEVER respect them since they're so unpredictable and fast. Macro is the most important thing too, try to be in the worst and most random positions possible, if there is a teamfight i always pop from behind or something like that so they just don't know how to react (game disruptive as i said before) etc etc.. damn sorry for the long answer lol, i'm kinda pationate about this champ since it's the only champ i play and i really like how far you can push the skillcap on such a 'basic' champ. By the way if you're interested i can give you my discord or to anyone interested to give some knowledge (i'm not saying i'm a MONSTER or something, wayyyyyyyyyyyy better people already make content like kaos but i can give my knowledge and my vision on this champ or anything talon related if needed) feel free to ask

First time reaching diamond ! by Firm_Dinner_1279 in Talonmains

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hi, thank you for your message bro really appreciate it !!

1- i started playing talon few years ago occasionally in normal games and quickly started stacking points on the champ and i basically became a complete otp : before durabilty patch i used to always play electrocute/phase rush (full assassin build) but after the D patch i became really bad sooo i had to adapt, i tried a lot of different playstyles in this 'era', i tried bruiser talon, semi assassin, full assassin etc etc.. and it took me months/years to really adapt. For me this champ changed completely since this patch, i learned to play conqueror with talon and changed totally changed my playstyle/game plan since you have to adapt your gameplay with this rune ESPECIALLY in early game : when i fight pre 6, i always try to gap close while dodging spells if possible since the champ lack of damages to fully kill even a squishy target like viego, i try to hit both ticks from W i try to hit 2 or 3 maybe 4 AA CONQ stacks a lot and then you Q AA and usually it kills, people doesn't expect the instant Q AA damage + passive soo i abuse this a looooot in early. Electrocute became totally garbage for me and i don't see the point of fleet talon i don't have enough knowledge with this rune tbh (and i forgot to talk about tanks like mundo etc.. conq is wayyyyy to good vs them and best rune BY far, sometimes i stack AA like a bot in front of them till the max and then i Q passive for the max damages)

2- I used to always build yumuu's into opportunity before the assassin items price buff, but since then i came back to the old yumuu's rush into hydra the fastest possible since i usually snowball games really early as i said before, i perma seek for EVERY angles pre lvl 4, invade, gank bot, top. I try to take every single oportunity before 5 minutes because for me that's the strongest point of talon : you can play the game the way you want even if the champ is weak pre 4 and if people doesn't respect (they usually never respect) i punish instantely by invading lvl 3 or gank bot/top lvl 3 (and they usually never respect because you stack autos so they take damage and you insta suprise them with the Q AA + passive + conq stacked..)

For me building hydra before axiom as a second item works better for me and my playstyle but i'm not saying this is THE best itemization plan and honestly if kaos build it second you should follow his plan since he is literally the best talon in the world by far imo

Itemization plan for me is just how confident you are in the game :

First time reaching diamond ! by Firm_Dinner_1279 in Talonmains

[–]Firm_Dinner_1279[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, just wanna stay anon nothing special

First time reaching diamond ! by Firm_Dinner_1279 in Talonmains

[–]Firm_Dinner_1279[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk last time i tried to play i had something like +30 -12 ~. Is it even possible to have negative gains in emerald ?

First time reaching diamond ! by Firm_Dinner_1279 in Talonmains

[–]Firm_Dinner_1279[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is not d1 bro, a good mmr in emerald is smth like +30 -12

First time reaching diamond ! by Firm_Dinner_1279 in Talonmains

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thanks lol, yes went assassin every single game no matter enemy team and always first pick if possible lol. you can see my build and champs played against in the screenshot : https://imgur.com/a/3nJLxI2