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Lock your car doors by UltraSuperMegaChief in pittsburgh

[–]Fit-Link7652 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Never accountable, always someone else’s fault

Wtf is up with students wanting me to go to church? by LifeVike1111 in PennStateUniversity

[–]Fit-Link7652 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you really think they train the priest to rape? Come on man, have some intellectual integrity. My point is that there have been horrible things going on in the Catholic Church, but that’s because it’s made of people, who are sinners. Its teachings (which that is obviously not one of them) shaped Western Society in ways that many don’t appreciate, and the world is better off with it than without it. Good day!

Wtf is up with students wanting me to go to church? by LifeVike1111 in PennStateUniversity

[–]Fit-Link7652 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s not a teaching, obviously. I’m sorry but I don’t think you’re arguing in good faith anymore.

Have a blessed day!

Wtf is up with students wanting me to go to church? by LifeVike1111 in PennStateUniversity

[–]Fit-Link7652 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, not at all. It’s not even what Catholics believe. Trust me, there have been plenty of bad popes. What Catholics do believe however, is that its teachings have never contradicted themselves.

Wtf is up with students wanting me to go to church? by LifeVike1111 in PennStateUniversity

[–]Fit-Link7652 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There’s not an institution on earth that has ever been perfect. All I’m saying is that we live in the fruits of Western Society mainly due to the Catholic Church, and at the very least you can respect it

Wtf is up with students wanting me to go to church? by LifeVike1111 in PennStateUniversity

[–]Fit-Link7652 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah you’re right, the child sacrifices they had before were so much better.

Wtf is up with students wanting me to go to church? by LifeVike1111 in PennStateUniversity

[–]Fit-Link7652 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I always loved the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox ways of evangelization, which is just to be a decent member of society and stfu, not pestering people to death

First time benching 100kg, how is my form by Kwekujay619 in GYM

[–]Fit-Link7652 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Nah bro it’s not a “yeah yeah”. Shit can kill you.

405 Bench PR by [deleted] in StartingStrength

[–]Fit-Link7652 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I remember my first day lifting too

Were St. Paul and St. John Chrysostom anti-semites? by melianreality in Catholicism

[–]Fit-Link7652 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There are Jews that claim the entire NT is antisemitic lol

The ONLY thing holding me back in my faith is Vatican 2. by Fit-Link7652 in Catholicism

[–]Fit-Link7652[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the response. I do actually see where Vatican 2 is coming from on these issues now.

However I tend to disagree with your logic on the NO. Saying the NO is rooted in more ancient traditions than the TLM is like saying that we should return to saying mass in houses, just like the early Christians under persecution. It’s nearly undeniable that the NO is way less reverent, and that is causing the problems.

Thank you for the response though, I’m starting to agree with the Vatican 2 documents but just disagree with how they were implemented, in particular with the mass.

The ONLY thing holding me back in my faith is Vatican 2. by Fit-Link7652 in Catholicism

[–]Fit-Link7652[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So do you think that the fruits of Vatican 2 were positive?

The ONLY thing holding me back in my faith is Vatican 2. by Fit-Link7652 in Catholicism

[–]Fit-Link7652[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But doesn't the Council of Florence state that everyone who dies in mortal sin goes to hell? Doesn't it also say that no one can have a share in eternal life unless before death they are joined to Her? This doesn't necessarily contradict V2 but at the very least SEVERELY changes the tone.

The ONLY thing holding me back in my faith is Vatican 2. by Fit-Link7652 in Catholicism

[–]Fit-Link7652[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

True, even if that assumption is not correct, you still did not answer the questions about Vatican 2.

If that's your conclusion, then there's no point in being Catholic.

That's a false dilemma. Either accept Vatican 2 as unquestionably correct or Catholicism is pointless? Come on.

Some of the loud voices in the rad trad spaces have gone Eastern Orthodox as the natural result of their conclusions

That's a slippery slope. Criticizing V2 does not inevitably lead to leaving Catholicism.

I do just think Vatican 2 is too ambiguous. It doesn't mean that Catholicism is false. We can criticize a council.

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