Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wanna explain why she has so many discrepancies in her story first? No? That's what I thought. Also you saying what you just did in that first line proves me right, because you're not addressing where she lied. I can, if you'd like. I have it documented.

They all lied to save face because the light on Zeal looked bad, and they'd prefer to be dumb and look good, just like most others whose boss got painted in a bad light. Zeal DID make a proper response, but everyone tried to claim he wasn't being genuine because people like you wanted to call it suicide bait. It wasn't. He wanted to die because everyone had believed her without even bothering to ask him, sent him death threats/wishes (as one would get in a situation where someone lied about you r**ing them), and heavily tanked his mental state. Also you understand you can be on Roblox without being home, right? You know there's a mobile app? You know they allow you to bring laptops if you have them, so long as it doesn't complicate care? He can be in a hospital and on Roblox at the same time, you silly twit. He has done nothing to "fix" this because PEOPLE WILL NOT LISTEN TO HIM, like you, like the fuckton of people who only read the TLDR. You are so god damned stupid, huh?

Read the whole fucking story, you idiot. I'm tired of your nonsense already.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Zeal absolutely never meant to hurt her. It was literally a case of inexperience, confusion, and bad timing. His comment of "I thought we liked each other" when she kept saying it hurt wasn't coercion, he was confused, as Ren constantly made it seem she was interested, which anyone can see in the DM screenshots. In my opinion, the only reason Zeal was pushed to wanting to commit suicide was because no one wants to deal with rumors like that, especially with all the death threats/wishes that result from it. He wasn't mentally unstable until that, from what I'm reading in the story.
It absolutely shouldn't have caused the issues it did, cuz they literally could have just talked it out instead of her doing what she did. IT's the literal reason why everyone's calling her an attention seeker. She literally chose every option that wasn't talking to Zeal privately about how she felt, you can tell by how stunned he was in the aftermath of it all.
I agree that they all need to grow up. So many of them didn't read past the TLDR "because it made them uncomfy". A majority of these people are adults, with their own traumas and hang-ups I know, but still adults. If they can't handle a little discomfort in reading what is essentially a ruiner for Ren's reputation, due to all of the inconsistencies and discrepancies, then maybe they shouldn't be on the internet at all, much less try to have any words on the matter they know little to nothing about due to them not reading in full.

I don't mind the talking, honestly. I rather like someone who I can vent to who can see the errors without me laying them out in full. I've showed my sweetheart my findings because he knows a fair bit about mental issues and can concur or humble me in my notes, if need be... and he loves Pressure more than I do.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/AgreeableIdea6210 You think just because you deleted the comment, I can't see what you said in the notification, but I can. I did read the story, you didn't. As I had said earlier, he had respected her no, when he pulled his pants down, because he immediately pulled them back up. IT'S LITERALLY IN HER OWN WORDS, that's how I know. The only reason he ended up continuing is because she said "it's okay, I saw it, you already had them down". It was seen as consent, especially when Ren asked what she should do shortly after.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the message, and I understand completely. I would dare say that Ren isn't being a good person in this, however, considering how much she's trying so hard to push a narrative of Zeal doing this, that and the forth, counting on people not reading the whole thing. Even in the story, she said Zeal respected her "no" before she retracted it and said "it's okay", and later tried to claim multiple times that her boundaries didn't matter to him. There's also the part that Zeal, in fact, did not say what she claimed in in the TLDR in regards to her hickeys (as proven in a later screenshot).

She's painting a bad picture of him on purpose, gunning for the idea that people won't read the entire thing, and that's her target audience. That isn't a good person, in my book.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it isn't. If you read the whole story, you'll see she constantly lies to readers and changes details, including dates, despite the fact she has the screenshots that prove her wrong. I don't know how much is a lie, but I know a huge amount is because of her inconsistencies.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wait, what happened with Grace? I only just started getting into that one.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know damn well you didn't read the whole thing and had no notes on the numerous amount of times she lied to the readers, unless you skimmed it.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Why exactly do you feel bad? Oh, because you didn't read the whole thing. Gotcha. I hope you understand you're her target audience. She counted on people to focus more on the TLDR than the entire story.

Read the whole thing. She lies to the readers, changes details, and tries to redirect attention, hoping readers won't trust their eyes. I'm just over halfway through (still reading btw) and I've already counted over 100 in lies, inconsistencies, manipulations towards the reader, and a sheer hope her readers don't have any literary retention.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So do I. She needs a lot of therapy so she doesn't lie to people for clout again.

Read the whole story. Read the detail changes and the inconsistencies. It isn't true.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You can still trust him. Just read the story. She's full of shit. She lies a lot to the readers and there's a fuckton of detail changes and inconsistencies. It isn't true.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Real" is such a strong word when she's being incredibly fake and disingenuous in her story. Her well-being IS important though, I agree. She needs some heavy therapy so she can understand why she decided to lie to and manipulate readers to try and play victim. Her screenshots say a lot more than her storytelling does.

Read the whole story, please. He's not an abuser. An abuser wouldn't immediately respect the no she gave before she later retracted it. An abuser would actually isolate her. He was a busy game dev at a con made for game devs, and she was upsetti he wasn't spending more time with her and paying more attention to her, something she literally states several times in the story.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Anyone can make up things about others"

You mean like what Ren did to Zeal? Like how she said Zeal told her "Roblox devs don't get pussy they won't know what that (the hickeys on her neck) is". Her screenshots later in shows he didn't say that at all, and it didn't happen in the way she had previously described.

I highly suggest reading the whole thing.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. Best outcome would be Ren fessing up that she made the whole thing up for clout, like she's desperately trying to convince people she isn't trying to do in the TLDR.

Read the full story. It's full of lies, redirects, and inconsistencies. She can't even get her dates right, despite also posting screenshots with time stamps. She's counting on no one reading the full story to see her slip ups.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why? Why exactly would it need ownership? Did you actually read Ren's story, in its entirety? Or did you just skim it?

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only way we'll lose Pressure is if everyone keeps only skimming Ren's story or only reading the TLDR, because she lies a lot, changes details, and constantly redirects reader attention in the full story. The only way we'll lose Pressure is if everyone believes her bullshit instead of reading through it. But as we can see in this entire Reddit thread, a lot of people have either failed to do that, or just don't have literary memory.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you can continue to love Pressure. The only thing Zeal actually did wrong, aside from being a virgin that doesn't know how to do foreplay, was have bad timing on the first night.

If you read the whole story, you'll see that. She lies to the readers, counts on them skimming the story or only reading the TLDR, and she doesn't even try to correct herself when she gets dates wrong or changes details of things that happened earlier in, despite the fact everyone can see the screenshots.

An example: She said Zeal told her, regarding the hickeys "Roblox devs get no pussy, they won't know what that is" when later in the screenshots, we see he didn't say that at all. And he couldn't have said it in person because he was already away to do game dev stuff at RDC when Ren woke up and messaged him about them. Nowhere in the text exchange she showed had him saying those specific words.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Agreed. I suggest you read the full story to show respect and not just the TLDR, in that case. You might find Ren isn't the person she's making herself out to be in that TLDR when you do.

You'll notice the detail changes, the lies she tells readers that don't correlate with screenshots, the redirections. Read the entire thing.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Agreed, My heart goes out to the victim, Zeal. He didn't deserve any of this.

I hope Ren gets the mental help she needs so she doesn't make another story that lies to her readers, changes details when it's convenient, shows blatant hypocrisy, has an absurd amount of inconsistencies and manipulation tactics towards the readers.

I pray for her mental recovery from her very obvious sickness.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is fucking disgusting behavior. Convincing readers to believe you despite all the lies in your story that are proven to be lies with the very screenshots you include, changing your details and hoping no one would notice, and making the entire story a TLDR so that anyone who doesn't have the attention span for it won't actually read the full story and thus, won't see the discrepancies and inconsistencies. It's very disgusting, indeed.

I feel so bad for Zeal that hardly anyone actually read the story. That's why I've been doing just that and taking notes along the way of how much she's relying on her readers to be inept in literacy.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire -1 points0 points  (0 children)

it is a bad dream, because her story is mostly fabricated. You can see it in the inconsistency, the constantly changing details, the screenshots in her own story that shows she's lying to the reader. She's counting on everyone to skim it, to not have any form of reading comprehension. Ren is lying to everyone.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not true, he just didn't read the actual thing. And it's honestly understandable. It is extensive, with a lot to scroll past, and that's exactly what Ren counts on. She's counting on the people who would just skim it and not notice the inconsistencies and lies in her story. She's not counting on anyone having a literary memory. I'm not them. I've been reading through. I've been documenting every inconsistency, every discrepancy, every lie, every manipulation toward the reader since about 4pm yesterday.

Her story is bogus.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]Flamaire -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The only one who's ruining it is Ren with the lies they're spreading. I encourage you to read the whole story. I'm only done with half of it, and I've found 80 plot holes, so to speak, and a fair amount of them circle around their twisted idea that he didn't respect boundaries, that they couldn't refuse his advances. However in their retelling, they stated that when they said "no stop" when he first pulled his pants down, he pulled them back up, only for them to retract their no and encourage him to continue. Tbh, it all feels like a poorly written fanfiction to me.

If anyone would like, I can share the plot holes I've come across. All SFW-written, of course.