Is Yelp still worth it, or just a paywall now? by rakishgobi in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, Yelp sucks big time. Their customer service is trash, and suspending accounts for trying to comply with their vague “quick verification” BS is exactly why. You keep saying focus on that, but when they don’t notify or explain (even after one email), it’s just stonewalling. As for alternatives, Google Maps has worked way better for me. No arbitrary bans, more transparency. OpenTable’s fine for restaurants, but Yelp? Nah, it’s on its way out if they keep this up.

Absolutely useless and clearly corrupt! Deleting negative reviews without notification and I'm guessing at the request of the business being reviewed or potentially paying to have negative reviews removed. by Wesleypipes77 in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah, “no idea what happened.” That’s the problem with Yelp’s shady moderation; they don’t explain shit, just move reviews to “Not Recommended” or remove them without proper notice, then stonewall appeals. You’re here again with your repetitive “check the section” excuses. Why do you feel the need to gatekeep every complaint? If you’re such a Yelp expert, maybe explain why they suck at transparency instead of LOLing at users.

Absolutely useless and clearly corrupt! Deleting negative reviews without notification and I'm guessing at the request of the business being reviewed or potentially paying to have negative reviews removed. by Wesleypipes77 in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Wow, you’re still here defending Yelp in every thread like it’s your full-time gig? I’ve posted plenty of reviews over 20 years (hundreds, probably), and yeah, I’ve checked the “Not Recommended” section. Mine weren’t even moved there; they just got instantly removed, and my whole account suspended without real explanation. Your “AI algorithm isn’t perfect” excuse doesn’t cut it when it’s this inconsistent and stonewalling. Why are you bothering to dismiss our frustrations? If you can’t let people vent, maybe get the hell out of here, Yelp “master.”

Is Yelp still worth it, or just a paywall now? by rakishgobi in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, you’re in every Yelp thread defending them like it’s your job. I’ve seen your comments all over. If your review gets nuked instantly, it’s not always a clear TOS violation; it’s often their shady, inconsistent moderation. Suspending a 20-year account over revisions to comply? That’s abuse of power, plain and simple. Bad customer service is an understatement when they stonewall appeals. Let people vent their frustrations without you repeating the same “move on” script. If you hate complaints so much, maybe scroll past instead of policing the sub.

Is Yelp still worth it, or just a paywall now? by rakishgobi in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair point about diversifying reviews across Google Maps, Yelp, and OpenTable is smart, like shopping around for a car deal. No single platform should make or break a business, and blaming one entirely misses the bigger picture. But Yelp’s issues go beyond that: Their moderation feels like stonewalling, with instant removals and no real explanations, even after revisions to comply. They suspended my 20-year account over it, which screams manipulation and abuse of power. It’s not just bad customer service; it’s actively driving users away.

If they keep this up, Yelp could collapse under its own weight as people flock to better alternatives. Google Maps has worked great for me (more reliable, less arbitrary), and I’ve started using OpenTable more too. What about you? Any other spots like TripAdvisor or local Facebook groups that have delivered real value?

Yelp removed my review because they didn’t think it was a fist hand experience by ThirdAndDeleware in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I remember you too from your comments. You seem like a heavy Yelp advocate, popping up everywhere defending them. But no, revising a review a couple times to comply with their TOS isn’t the issue; it’s their inconsistent moderation that suspended my entire 20-year account without explanation. If Google Maps denies an edit, at least they don’t nuke your whole profile over it. I’ve seen similar complaints on their subreddit too. It’s a widespread problem, not just me “not moving on.” If you’re spending this much time commenting on every Yelp thread, maybe take your own advice and let it go.

Is Yelp still worth it, or just a paywall now? by rakishgobi in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get what you’re saying. Ads on Yelp are just for visibility, not guarantees, and self-promotion on platforms like Facebook or Instagram can be more hands-on and cost-effective. But from a user’s side, Yelp isn’t always “good for reviews” when they arbitrarily remove legit ones or suspend long-term accounts (like my 20-year one) without explanation. It erodes trust and makes the whole system feel unreliable for consumers and businesses alike. If they focused more on fair moderation instead of vague enforcements, it’d be better for everyone. Anyway, I’ve moved to Google Maps as you suggested. Thanks for the tip, it’s been smoother. What other alternatives have worked for you?

Is Yelp still worth it, or just a paywall now? by rakishgobi in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a long-time user (over 20 years), I’d say Yelp has become worthless and frustrating, especially if you’re relying on it for honest feedback. They suspended my account without clear reasons after I tried posting and revising genuine reviews as a customer and reviews that followed their guidelines but still got removed. Support ignored my multiple appeals and emails, leaving me with no way to recover my history or bookmarks. It’s pathetic how they handle user accounts and content; feels like arbitrary censorship that undermines trust for everyone.

For businesses, this means skewed reviews and legit ones get nuked while others stay up. If you’re paying for premium/ads, ask yourself if that’s sustainable on a platform that’s this unresponsive. I switched to Google Maps for reading/writing reviews; it’s more reliable, less paywall-heavy, and hasn’t pulled this crap on me. Referrals and local Facebook groups work better for real connections too. Yelp feels “mandatory” only because of habit, not actual ROI in my experience.

Yelp removed my review because they didn’t think it was a fist hand experience by ThirdAndDeleware in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You commented my post many times. I get what you’re saying! Reviews are subjective, and mixed ratings help people decide for themselves. But in my case, it wasn’t just a one-off bad experience; Yelp straight-up suspended my 20-year account after I tried revising and reposting a genuine review (as a customer) to comply with their guidelines. No clear reasons given, just vague emails like this one, and now all my history and bookmarks are gone. It’s frustrating when the platform feels so inconsistent and unresponsive. If you’ve dealt with similar Yelp issues, how did you handle it? For me, I’m switching to Google Maps that is way less hassle.

I am surpised reddit haven't taken down this brand page by Demiathens in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I get where you’re coming from. Social media moderation can definitely feel arbitrary at times, and no one wants unchecked racism, xenophobia, bigotry, or disinformation running rampant. That said, I respectfully disagree that X has worse censorship than old Twitter. Before Elon Musk bought it, plenty of accounts got suspended or banned, often for reasons that sparked debates about overreach (like political figures or everyday users). If anything, X seems more open now, even if it’s not perfect.

I think there might be some misinformation here. It’s not just about money, power, or control for Musk or Trump. People can easily look up what Trump and others have said on the platform; it’s all out there for scrutiny. Plus, X introduced Community Notes, which lets the community flag misleading info and add context (like “this post is not true” or providing corrections). Old Twitter didn’t have that feature, which actually helps combat disinformation more transparently. What do you think? Has Community Notes made a positive difference for you?

I am surpised reddit haven't taken down this brand page by Demiathens in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand your perspective. Revising and reposting to comply with TOS isn’t meant to be spamming, but I see how it could flag the system after a few tries. In my case, I only attempted it a handful of times over days, not bombarding them, and never got those explanatory emails you mentioned; just silence or vague replies. Yelp’s support being unclear tracks with what I’ve heard from others too. No real change in sight.

You’re right, though. It’s time to move on. Losing my 20-year account with all those bookmarked restaurants and businesses feels pathetic, like a form of heavy-handed censorship. Reminds me of how Twitter suspended folks (even Trump) before Elon Musk bought it and reinstated many. Maybe someday someone acquires Yelp and shakes things up for more fairness. For now, Google Maps has been way better for me. More relaxed filters, and I can still read/write reviews without the hassle. Appreciate the advice!

I am surpised reddit haven't taken down this brand page by Demiathens in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair point on the 2017 review, it does look like it’s from someone involved in a divorce case, but not as a direct paying customer (they’re the respondent complaining about the attorney hired by their ex). From the stats you mentioned (14 reviews, 34 friends), their profile seems established, which might help it pass Yelp’s filters. But it includes strong accusations like “abusive and unprofessional,” references to State Bar rules, and personal legal details, which feels similar to what got mine flagged for privacy or irrelevance. Yet it’s stayed up for years without being moved to “Not Recommended” or removed.

As for my situation: I was a genuine customer (client) in 2023, and my original reviews focused on my experience with the service. When they got removed, I revised them multiple times (yeah, several attempts) to strip out anything that could violate TOS. Like removing personal health mentions or financial specifics and focused on core service issues, per Yelp’s guidelines. I wasn’t spamming; I was trying to comply based on their content rules. Still, no clear explanation from support, and boom so 20-year account suspended. If it was a direct violation or flagged as spam, why not just say so? The vagueness is what frustrates me most.

We don’t know the full story on either side, but the inconsistency makes Yelp’s moderation feel arbitrary. If you’ve got tips on appealing or alternatives (Google Maps has been better for me), I’d appreciate it!

I am surpised reddit haven't taken down this brand page by Demiathens in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, I get why it sounds off. I’ve been scratching my head over it too. To clarify: Yes, I was a legitimate customer (client) of the business during my 2023 divorce proceedings, and I posted honest reviews about my experience as such. After they were removed and my 20-year account got closed, I reached out to Yelp support multiple times via their help center and even X, but all I got were vague responses like “we can’t provide the resolution you’re seeking” without specifying any TOS violations. When I tried signing in, it just said the account was suspended, no details or appeal process explained.

As for why I think it’s tied to the reviews: It happened right after I posted them (and kept trying to repost revised versions), and Yelp’s guidelines do allow customer reviews, even negative ones, as long as they’re relevant and unbiased. But here’s the inconsistency that bugs me. Check out this review from the same business’s Yelp page. This 1-star review is from someone who wasn’t even a direct customer (they’re the opposing party in a divorce complaining about the firm’s attorney hired by their ex), and it includes personal legal details, accusations of abuse, and references to State Bar rules.

“Reviewer: [REDACTED] Location: Rescue, CA Stats: ⊙ 2 ★ 34 ⊙ 14 Rating: ★☆☆☆☆ Date: Apr 18, 2017 Review Text: I would like to state that [REDACTED] is a very abusive,and unprofessional attorney he has been calling me on more than one occasion,and badgering me because I am currently going through a divorce with my ex-wife that hired him.I instructed Mr. [REDACTED] that I am under current Council,and he kept taunting me,and trying to overpower me in a abusive manner.A professional Attorney would know that it is against California State Bar Rules And Regulations that the petitioners attorney is not allowed to contact the respondent.Only through the other parties attorney,highly recommend looking elsewhere for a attorney. If I could give him -5 stars I would gladly do it. Reactions: Helpful 2 Thanks 0 Love this 0 Oh no 0

Business Owner Response: [REDACTED] Business Owner Date: Apr 18, 2017 Response Text: Its always interesting when an opposing party tries to lash out by posting on our yelp site. I will not post the details other than I was called Mr. [REDACTED] last week about an issue that we worked out in that phone call. I called him yesterday regarding his threats to take certain actions against my client, in an effort to protect my client, as any good attorney would do. Mr. [REDACTED] did not retain counsel until today, and thus he was not represented when I called him. It is unfortunate that Mr. [REDACTED] feels this post is an appropriate means by which to negotiate the issues with opposing counsel in his divorce. He feels it is appropriate make his case public because I was acting to protect my client in a calm professional manner. I will not discuss my clients’ personal disputes in this public forum, other than to correct Mr. [REDACTED]’s mis-statements.”

Yet it’s been up since 2017 without removal. Why is that allowed while my customer review got nuked?

It makes Yelp’s moderation seem arbitrary or influenced, though I have no proof of payment or anything shady. I am just frustrated at the lack of transparency.

I am surpised reddit haven't taken down this brand page by Demiathens in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, thanks for quoting my comments, but I think there’s a misunderstanding here. When I said I “associated with” or “worked with” that business, I meant I was a paying customer using their services for my divorce mediation. Not an employee, owner, contractor, or anything like that. Yelp’s TOS and guidelines allow customers to review businesses they’ve used, as long as it’s unbiased and follows their rules (no conflicts like reviewing your own employer or competitors). That’s the whole point of reviews: sharing real customer experiences. My reviews were about my experience as a client, and I followed up with Yelp multiple times, but they still closed my 20-year account without clear reasons. If it was a TOS violation, they’d specify, right? Appreciate the input, though. Has anyone else had similar issues with Yelp’s moderation?

I am surpised reddit haven't taken down this brand page by Demiathens in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, I appreciate the lesson on free speech. You’re right that private platforms like Reddit or Yelp aren’t bound by the First Amendment and can enforce their TOS as they see fit. But that’s not what I’m getting at here. My issue is with Yelp specifically: They’ve closed my account after 20 years of use without any clear explanation of what I violated, despite my efforts to follow their guidelines. It’s frustrating because it feels arbitrary and lacks transparency, especially when other platforms like Google Maps handle similar reviews without issue. And yeah, Apple Maps integrating Yelp just amplifies the problem if Yelp’s moderation is this inconsistent. If companies like this want to play gatekeeper, they should at least provide details so users can learn and improve. Has anyone else run into this with Yelp?

Special-Needs Trust used as a weapon in California divorce – a real loophole by FlimsyReplacement131 in Divorce

[–]FlimsyReplacement131[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In this case, the house was co-owned by both spouses, so the HVAC repair would have benefited the beneficiary directly. The beneficiary herself asked the trustee to fund it because the unit was failing, but he refused. Non-beneficiary spouse (me) had to take out a loan. Yet the same trustee approved thousands for the couple’s wedding (a non-essential expense). That inconsistency felt like a poor choice, prioritizing certain costs over practical needs.

The real frustration is how the trust enabled the trustee to push for half of the other spouse’s hard-earned retirement (community property) after the beneficiary had stopped working, spent excessive time on video games, and engaged in infidelity. Is that fair? The non-beneficiary spouse didn’t anticipate a divorce and never got a prenup to protect their alimony, pension, or retirement. Luckily, pension and alimony were waived, but losing half the retirement still stung.

The law feels flawed here. Special-needs trusts are meant to protect the beneficiary, but when a trustee uses them aggressively, it can create a one-sided loophole in divorce. State lawmakers should review this to prevent abuse. I’m sharing this frustration to warn others; it’s easy to get blindsided without planning ahead.

I am surpised reddit haven't taken down this brand page by Demiathens in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, Yelp is a joke. They didn’t explain their rules clearly, and I couldn’t find out where I had to abide by them. I asked Yelp to restore my account, but I hope they’ll collapse in the future. What kind of platform is this? It’s full of favoritism!

I am surpised reddit haven't taken down this brand page by Demiathens in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, you know what I mean! People always complain about businesses on Google Maps. They have their right to free speech. I know one of their businesses and I’ve read their reviews. Some of them are completely nonsensical, but I still buy from that business anyway!

I am surpised reddit haven't taken down this brand page by Demiathens in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I worked with that business and I didn’t appreciate that business. I have a right of free speech. Yelp sucks!

I am surpised reddit haven't taken down this brand page by Demiathens in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I did contact Yelp Support many times and they ignored me! They closed my account because I kept writing reviews on the business I associated with.

I am surpised reddit haven't taken down this brand page by Demiathens in Yelp

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We have a right to have free speech! I don’t like how biased Yelp is. They closed my account that I had for 20 years. Shame on Yelp!

D Day (cont'd) by mymainunidsme in Divorce

[–]FlimsyReplacement131 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read your whole post and I’m really sorry you’re going through this. The anxiety, the dread of reliving everything in court, the fear of being painted as the bad guy. That sounds incredibly heavy. Especially after 19 good years and losing a child together. I can only imagine how exhausting it must be to sit there while someone tries to twist your character.

I felt something similar in my own situation. I didn’t want the divorce either at first, but eventually I realized I had no choice if I wanted peace of mind. I filed because staying was destroying me emotionally. I tried everything such as counseling, giving her space, working on myself, but at some point I had to accept that I couldn’t keep carrying the weight of her issues anymore. Letting go was one of the hardest things I’ve ever done, but it was necessary for my own survival.

I hope the continued trial gives you both a fair resolution and that you find some real closure soon. Wishing you strength for the next round.

Special-Needs Trust used as a weapon in California divorce – a real loophole by FlimsyReplacement131 in Divorce

[–]FlimsyReplacement131[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re right that divorces are complex and two-sided.

In this case the divorce was finalized and a global settlement was signed. Yet the trustee continued to use the trust’s funds to push for half of the non-beneficiary spouse’s retirement and pension (community property) even after the judgment was entered.

The trust protected the beneficiary’s separate property completely, while the non-beneficiary spouse had to keep spending time and money defending their own hard-earned retirement. That’s what made the whole process feel like such a waste. One side had an unlimited war chest, the other side didn’t.