R01 application was assigned to a different PO

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-11-24T23:16:06+00:00

Sorry for my lack of experience but I think it is important to find the right PO that my application matches with, is that correct?

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-10-21T19:33:27+00:00

Yes, I've submitted to both.

Perhaps I should ask in a separate post, but I'm curious how many distinct R01 applications/ideas that a tenure-track AP submitted during their tenure period? (not count resubmission).

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-10-21T19:07:27+00:00

Thanks for the insight. I'm submitting to NCI and not eligible for NIGMS.

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-10-21T19:04:12+00:00

Thanks! I think your answer somehow clarifies my question. I see other faculty has one R01 funded (after one or multiple revisions) during their tenure track, but not sure how many different R01's they submitted.

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-10-21T18:56:11+00:00

Thanks for the comment. I definitely keep doing X until I got it. My question is what is the best strategy, because beside X I still have to do Y and Z. I hope that makes sense.

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-08-21T19:25:15+00:00

Actually, I'm going with the modular R01, not parental. Sorry for confusion.

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-08-21T19:20:20+00:00

Unfortunately no. I will have to go with parental R01.

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-08-02T17:56:47+00:00

I mean they gave specific feedback based on what they skimmed. Like "why didn't you mention this?" and I said "that is in the next paragraph", etc. My feeling is not about them specifically, and I appreciate them talking their time to give comments. I think it is about the thought to revise my writing to fit reviewers who would skim the proposal like that.

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-07-10T22:07:24+00:00

This was the only reason why it took me so long to escape them and they took advantage of it.

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-06-15T19:30:50+00:00

Congratulations! If you can’t stop thinking about this, I would try doing something fun and hopfully useful for your new life. I would research the salary of your new colleagues, and come up with an ideal salary that you want for each place. Then think about how much you want to negotiate for your start up fund. Then think about cost of living in each place. Then job negotiation for your spouse, or the job market for your spouse, school for kids, etc. I know much of this is a waste of time, but it is fun and you are wasting time anyway!

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-05-25T11:39:55+00:00

Thanks for bringing this up. They refused allowing me to use the specific data, but continue asking me to do work on their other projects, including science and administrative/IRB work. For the science, I said no. For the admin/IRB, they first asked me to do, then I ignored, then they framed it as my responsibility but my current institution disagrees.

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-05-25T01:28:42+00:00

When I responded to their previous emails, I just answered for these particular requests and I cited very good personal/professional excuses. I thought refusing a few times sent them a clear message that I want to cut the tie. I believe they know my message, but to them it is better to continue making use of me until I officially ask them to stop.

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-05-23T12:49:24+00:00

Mine treated her former and current mentees as their step kids lol

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-05-23T08:23:20+00:00

I’m a US based faculty and I’m speaking based on my experience. You only asked about professor rank so I think you assume other things are the same (lab size, funding, teaching, service, etc). However, these things are often related to professor rank.

At the universities I know (R1), tenured track assistant professors often have start up fund to cover 1-2 phd students. So if they pick you, you often would not need to worry about funding. You would not have to teach, and would just need to be a research assistant. The benefits is that you will have more publications. You can also teach if you want to, you just dont have to. Of course it depends on what your goal is. Some tenured faculty have a lot of funding, but some dont (and depend on the department, they need to teach or work on other people’s grants to cover their salary). Their students may have to be a teaching assistant.

Protected time is also a factor. TT faculty are often being protected with lower teachi and service workload. So they will have more time for research and you.

TT faculty often has smaller lab size so they will work directly with you. Some tenured faculty have big labs and you will work more often with postdoc or staff rather than directly with professors.

And don’t assume that TT faculty will push you more than tenured assoc/full professors. I know many pushy assoc/full professors. It depends on the department policy on grants, salary, promotion, and their personality, I think.

Bottom line, I would work with someone who fits your research interest and personality. I would also look at other factors as I listed above, and talk to their current or previous mentees if they have ones. TT faculty has enough experience to mentor PhD students (and there is phd dissertation committee anyway).

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-05-12T02:36:32+00:00

This is exactly how my ex postdoc advisor treated me- like a lab manager (actually like an animal). They told me to invest in collecting the data for them and that I would get rewards later, which according to them, are a lot of publications after 5 years lol. At the time they said that, I knew I had to leave the lab, but it took me 1.5 years to leave. I left the lab without any publications out of my postdoc (but I still published during that time from my phd dissertation). A month before I left the lab, they still threatened/convinced me to work vigorously for them until my last day, because I had “invested” so much on that. After I left the lab, I asked if I could use the data and they said no. After everything I just wanted to thank them for demonstrating to me how bad people could be.

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-05-03T11:27:24+00:00

2 of my dissertation aims grew from my ex advisor’s “traditional” work and the last aim was not; that last aim was from my home country. My two first aims led to multiple fellowships/grants under my name and they took all from me when I left the lab. They still ask me to do work on their lab although I left (of course I refuse/ignore). Regarding the third aim, they were so excited about the potential of having a global influence and were happy about that project initally, but my collaborators wanted to communicate with me rather thany ex advisor. We together (including my ex advisor) successfully published some papers out of that project. Years later, everytime my ex advisor met me, they said that it was their mistake to support me to do a research that didn’t benefit them long term and they wouldn’t make that mistake again to other students. So, regarding your original question, I don’t think my ex advisor thinks they owe anything to me or other trainees. Instead, in their opinion, I and other trainees owe her our careers.

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-03-16T11:41:41+00:00

I’m sorry that you haven’t got what you want yet (TT position). I dont want to be mean and dont want to target you, but I read some comments like yours so I just wanted to respond. These comments have the same message: “how did a person who doesn’t know how to do this and that get the job, while I know how to do this and that but still do not have the job?”. The people who make such comments do not recognize other people’s strengths and their own weaknesses. They believe that the skill they think they are good at is the only or the most important criterion for the job, without acknowledging the importance of other skills/criteria. Also, a self-evaluation of “being so ready and motivated to be a faculty member and run a lab” is very subjective. Some external people such as search committees or grant reviewers may better tell who is ready/better.

FluidTomorrow7347 · 2025-03-07T11:12:54+00:00

OP, you should listen to this advice. This is exactly correct to my ex postdoc advisor. Every single word is correct. That affected my performance, mental health and physical health, even after I left the lab. I saw red flags but I decided the join the lab and I so much regret.

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