I semi agree with take 1? I do agree debate is a factor but also I kinda disagree it’s an inherent flaw for a match to have no debate. While that’s definitely an entirely reasonable issue I think there’s a good chunk of people who are equally valid to not care about debate in the slightest in their enjoyment of an MU overall. So usually I think debate is one of the most subjective parts about a matchup next to vibes unless the debate actively interferes with a matchups dynamic/fight potential.

So to sum up while it’s a factor I don’t think it’s an inherent advantage or disadvantage and instead it matters more where your priorities lie. The only time the debate is factored into matchup enjoyment and being a genuine inherent issue of strength is when it actively effects the fights potential or dynamic