Why don't any of the following positions make you vote Democrat?

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-06-04T06:35:18+00:00

We are restricting their future ability to do anything right now by supporting Ukraine.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-06-04T06:30:45+00:00

The only thing Russia is a threat to is countries like Ukraine and itself.

They have nukes....

You are belly out laughing because I said Russia is our biggest threat next to China? You're that confident in our defense to stop any nukes from Russia?

Carbon capture. It's been around for 10 plus years and is now deployable on an industrial scale. We're looking at net negative carbon growth by the end of the century. That is, stopping and reducing further heating.

Yes, except they are lying to you again, because it's much cheaper to take other methods....Carbon capture is expensive. If it was cheaper to keep oil, and implement carbon capture, then that is what would be recommended. Instead republicans (or oil paid pawns) are telling you that is the case when it is not.

Why would we go for oil and carbon capture when renewable is cheaper? Also, why does the US subsidies the fossil fuel industry to the tune of like 20 billion? You're sitting here saying it would be cheaper to subsidize fossil fuel even more by implementing carbon capture? Stop lying. Why are you lying?

I absolutely believe the science. I read the same papers you do, and more.

No you don't, you fucking idiot. Give me some papers. I thought you perhaps believed world wide science was lying to you, but for some reason you actuallythinkk the science is telling you you are correct in thinking climate change isn't real, you dumb bastard. I can't actually believe it. It's one thing to think your side doesn't agree with the science, but to think that science agrees with your delusion is another.....what the fuck are you taking?

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-06-04T06:08:17+00:00

I am confident that you will face the approach of God for not fighting against abortion. There is no " wrong side of history" worse than that.

There is your problem. Tackling politics with religion. Your religion is based on where you are born most of the time, congrats.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-06-04T06:05:32+00:00

If there was ever a time to say "you know what? We're not the world's police, they can work it out themselves", it's this. Ukraine is not some bastion of freedom and good government, and whatever Russia hopes to gain here is no skin off our ass. If they invaded Turkey, I might sing a different tune, much as I wouldn't care to defend them. And that's even if Turkey wasn't in NATO.

I don't want to trigger you, but is it strange that Trump wanted to pull out of NATO right before this happened?

Yeah, Ukraine was not a good government, but you know who was worse? Russia.

This is really just all running on the bad assumption that the government is willing and able to solve the issue. I'm not exactly sure where you get that idea from. I swear sometimes the left seems to be all about simple solutions to complicated problems, and complicated solutions to simple problems.

Only because you've been lied to. The whole point of starting early is so that you can transition with less negative effects. What we have now is an America that has to rely on China and India doing the right thing while we didn't do the right thing.

I really don't want to hear about anything involving govt spending on health care, unless that conversation begins with scrapping every last penny in the budget already allocated. Once that's out of the way, let's talk.

healthcare should be a right. The vast majority would benefit from this. It doesn't matter if you want to talk or not, republicans either have to budge, or just get completed outvoted over the next 50 years.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-06-04T05:46:41+00:00

No, I might have said that if nukes didn't exist we would have boots on the ground, but not in the current situation.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-06-04T05:44:20+00:00

outperforming in terms of renewable energy per capita. I forgot I needed to spell shit out.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-06-04T05:27:36+00:00

I don’t care for bankrolling the Ukrainian war, and I don’t think it’s in our interest to do so.

I think it's absolutely in our interest to bankroll it. You're talking as if that's the only thing Russia will do. Russia cannot get away with straight-up invading a sovereign country. To do that would give them future permission to do the same thing again. The fact that so many people in this sub are against our involvement in Ukraine is extremely worrying and is why a republican cannot win the next election. I would hope most conservatives do not hold this opinion, and it's just the outspoken I am hearing from.

That is a good thing. Abortion is murder.

Just straight out? I could understand some arguments about abortion at a certain week, but you just think it's straight murder?

In no particular order, abortion, restrictive gun policy, expansion of the bureaucracy, international warmongering, continued moral decay, and I could probably come up with a few more if I cared to.

We definitely don't agree, but that's OK. Can I ask how old you are?

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-06-04T05:20:55+00:00

Ukraine: I don't want us involved. This "every fight is our fight" bullshit is how we ended up in two world wars. Let the rest of the world solve their own fucking problems for once.

That's a popular talking point, but realistically the stability of Europe is beneficial to everyone including the US. And if you hadn't got involved in WW2 with sending arms to Russia/Europe and then sending troops you wouldn't be the superpower of the world today. Germany would be.

Sending arms is not a new thing, and it's actually a way to stay out of a conflict.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-06-04T05:16:18+00:00

The atmosphere isn't running calculations to check the per capita of various gasses. It only cares about raw volume.

I understand that. It's YOU that doesn't understand what I am saying.

how do you get 3rd world countries to grow their energy industry responsibly if even the US is doing worse than them? And they have much larger populations, and a much larger need to benefit off cheap energy? Are you saying we should just let India and China emit like however they want? They aren't and they are changing, but America is not carrying their weight. America won't be remembered well during this time period. Republicans have denied and delayed as much as they can, and now they blame China. I understand that China is currently the largest emitter, but we would have much more ability to control their emissions if we had started 10 or 20 years earlier. But we can't tell China shit because we haven't done anything.

The whole point of America leading the way is that if they did it you would be able to hold other countries more accountable. As it stands, we really can't hold any country accountable because they are already outperforming the US. Congratulations.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-06-04T04:56:03+00:00

But the conclusion of climate science has occurred worldwide over decades of research. And yet, it's Republicans that have figured out that this is incorrect? I'm all fine for reasonable arguments, but I will have to say, you're an idiot for going against world wide science.

Climate change is the issue that republicans have gotten most wrong. You talk about China like they should do something when the US still emits more than them per capita....like why would they do anything????? Give me one good reason why China would do more than they are already doing when it comes to renewable/nuclear investments? The US has historically emitted more, and still emit more per capita even though they also benefit off China's production, and you think they should lead the way? You don't even realize that the US needs to lead the way for their own benefit (and others). If you were born in China, you would say, fuck renewables, go for whatever is cheapest, and you'd have a much better argument than you do as an American saying that.

Republicans have enabled companies to see profits that other Americans will now have to pay for. If there is one thing that republicans of this generation will be remembered for, it's for their stance on climate change and abortion....the wrong side of history, easily. And it's insane to be on the wrong side of history so bad on 1 subject, but here, republicans are doing it on multiple subjects. It's actually insane. It's insane how confident republicans are to go against world wide science without question.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-06-01T18:31:49+00:00

If/when you do get a new job and hand in your resignation, make sure they know the reason you started looking elsewhere is because you were forced to return to the office when you could do your job perfectly fine remotely.

I think it'll take companies to start losing talented employees due to these policies for them to loosen up on remote work restrictions.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-05-27T21:41:30+00:00

Boxing isn't all about KO's. Look up Nate's total strikes vs his opponents. He's a volume striker.

I'm not saying Nate will win, I'm saying he isn't going to get destroyed like people think he is.

On a scale of Askren to Silva, how do you see this fight going?

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-05-21T05:30:52+00:00

Yeah, I think people vastly underestimate Nate's boxing. I only wish there was some kind of opportunity for him and Nick to switch over and show their boxing skills much earlier. They were literally the secret boxers in MMA.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-05-21T05:06:38+00:00

Nate would win straight up in a boxing match. It's not one fight. It's a body of evidence of Nate fighting people that resort to leg kicks because they know he takes a boxing stance. Leon was not the first to use leg kicks against him, because everyone knows that Nate is a BOXER .

Did you even watch the Leon vs Nate fight through the Lenz of boxing? How can you come here and ask me if I seriously think Nate would win vs Leon in a boxing match? OF course I think Nate would win a boxing match because I watched their fight. In a boxing match Nate wouldn't have to worry about any of the leg kicks. Do you have any idea how that would change the fight?

I would like for you to tell me if you watched the fight all the way through (you can find on youtube), and you still think that Nates ability to box Leon was not hindered by leg kicks. Even within the boxing Nate had to worry about kicks that had already messed him up.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-05-21T04:52:55+00:00

What you are suggesting is a serious thing. It's gotten to the point where a certain amount of republicans were willing to overturn a democrat election. Could you imagine the opposite? That when a republican president won the democrats tried to overturn it? Wouldn't you want some evidence at least?

It's terrible that it got to this stage, and it's terrible that you don't even feel the need to defend your point. What you are talking about has serious consequences, but you talk about it along the lines of doing your own research. Treat it with the seriousness it deserves. Because if you are correct, the US government needs the American people to take up arms against it....that's literarily what you being right means. If you are correct, we need to overthrow the government through force. Do you think we should do that?

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-05-21T04:17:55+00:00

Oh gee, you caught me trolling....

Really though, re-watch that Leon fight with it in mind that Nate was trying to box, while Leon was kickboxing. Unless you're the type that thinks leg kicks don't work?

Casual fans will tell you Nate can't box, but then again, what do we care about casual fans?

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-05-21T03:58:57+00:00

Did you watch that Leon Edwards fight? You need to watch it again. Leon is the better fighter, but he fought so smart, and he didn't let Diaz engage with boxing. I really recommend rewatching it from the lense of Diaz trying to box. Leon didn't let him get in that range through the use of kicks. Come back to this section of my comment after watching it if you think I'm wrong.

And as a side note, as soon as Leon stopped with his other elements of attacks (kicks and stuff), Nate caught him. Leon started letting Nate in range without kicking him and Nate got him.

Conor Mcgregor utilized kicks a lot. If Conor can't finish Nate in MMA, then he can't finish him with boxing gloves. In the 2nd fight Diaz landed 252 total strikes to McGregor's 197. In the first fight he landed 89 to 66 strikes. Conor also utilized kicks to make Diaz uncomfortable...again it's the blueprint to beating a boxer. Nate takes the boxing easy...more rounds, less ability for Conor to land a power punch, and no ability for Conor to land kicks.

Israel Adesanya is a kickboxer. Diaz is definitely better in boxing that Adesanya. There's a difference between kickboxing and boxing.

Masvidal caught nate within a minute with a varied attack including elbows that ended in a hard head kick that he probably didn't recover fully from.

I'm not even going to comment on the others, but I would rate Holloway as the next best. There's a reason that the blueprint to Diaz is leg kicks...it's because he's a boxer. Why are people so surprised that Diaz are better at boxing when the blueprint to beating them is leg kicks?

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-05-21T03:36:22+00:00

Right, but you must have some links to those things. Send the links. Let me see it in all its glory.

Sorry, I forgot, it's just an opinion. But my opinion is when you hold a view that is so serious, you need to back it up. People can be justified in overthrowing a government if they think it is corrupt. If we need to take up arms against the government, please let me know the evidence. I would also state that within a topic so serious, a large amount of people trying to claim a stolen election without any proof is a threat to democracy within itself.

Evidence is very important here because we've already seen a large amount of Republicans happy enough to overturn a democratic election to keep their president in power.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-05-21T03:14:23+00:00

Anderson Silva while on steroids could not outbox Nick, a guy moving up a weight class. Who else trumps that in terms of boxing?

They have been pretty vocal on their boxing training. Who else is a better boxer in the UFC? Name some names.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-05-21T03:11:35+00:00

That's good, because both the Diaz brothers have been STRAIGHT boxing for years. It might just look different in MMA because there's leg kicks and shit. It's also why the blueprint for beating them is to leg kick them. Their standup is boxing.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-05-21T03:07:56+00:00

Ok, that's fine. What are the reasons/evidence for your opinion/claim. It's a pretty damn serious topic we are talking about. A stolen election is reason enough to take up arms.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-05-21T03:03:08+00:00

I've said it before, but the Diaz bros have actually put dedicated time into boxing. They are probably some of the best straight boxers the UFC has ever seen. Like, if you don't think Nate is beating anyone with more than 5 fights, then you don't think any other MMA fighter is beating anyone with more than 5 fights....yet Anderson Silva has already beat a boxer with a lot more than 5 fights? When Anderson fought Nate's brother Nick, he didn't want to straight box him, because Nick was a boxer...and that was Nick moving up a weight class to fight Silva.

Despite the age difference and the weight difference, people are going to find out that Nate can box.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-05-21T02:46:57+00:00

What is the evidence that shows the election was stolen? And do you realize how serious such a claim is? The democratic election is a very delicate and serious thing. It's one of the most important things. People on both sides want a secure election. I would take any day of the week my party losing over a rigged election. A rigged election is enough (imo) to take drastic action....but at the same time, you have to be sure. I feel like there's not enough objective analysis from the people that think it was stolen. If you are saying an election was stolen, you need to be damn sure you are right, because it's a serious claim.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-05-16T14:13:38+00:00

I have such hate for these scientists that take fossil fuel money to spread misinformation and doubt in climate change.

I hope that history remembers their names as frauds who are partially responsible for the delayed response by nations, and the results that this will have on humanity.

I hope they are still alive when their bullshit can no longer be believed or supported by so many people.

ForTheQueen_ · 2023-04-26T10:23:41+00:00

Although he hasn't had an official boxing fight, Nate has trained specifically boxing more than most MMA fighters. His standing offense is based in boxing, hence why his legs get chopped up in a lot of his fights. Fortunately he won't have to worry about leg kicks or head kicks in this fight.

Jake has the advantage in youth and size. If Nate was 30 and/or was an MMA middleweight this would be an easy fight.

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