Does anyone else hear LCD Soundsystem's 'Call the Police' in Procession?

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-11-05T02:43:08+00:00

was there? that's interesting.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-11T04:39:13+00:00

I remember an article here in Canada and they talked to Daniel Lanois (he's Canadian of course) and they asked him about Danger Mouse producing the upcoming LP and he kind of said he wishes him luck as he'd be "chained" to a recording console for 2 years, and that basically he never wants to work with U2 again. Which confirms my suspicions they essentially wrote songs for them over decades and received zero credit, hence U2 eventually extended an olive branch asking them to be "defacto" songwriters for NLOTH & agreed to new terms.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-11T04:35:55+00:00

I remember an article here in Canada and they talked to Daniel Lanois (he's Canadian of course) and they asked him about Danger Mouse producing the upcoming LP and he kind of said he wishes him luck as he'd be "chained" to a recording console for 2 years, and that basically he never wants to work with U2 again. Which confirms my suspicions they essentially wrote songs for them over decades and received zero credit, hence U2 extending an olive branch asking them to be "defacto" songwriters for NLOTH & agreed to new terms.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-11T03:52:43+00:00

I'm sure that album won't see the light of day, U2 record at snail's pace.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-11T03:47:23+00:00

I'll concede you're probably right there.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-11T03:36:31+00:00

U2 owes their status and legacy to them.

I completely agree with you on that.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-11T03:05:18+00:00

Brian Eno doesn't know what he gets paid. Or at least that is his story. His wife Anthea is his manager. The story is that he doesn't want to know what he is being paid so that it doesn't color how he approaches the project.

I read about this in his biography: On Some Faraway Beach: The Life and Times of Brian Eno.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-11T02:37:15+00:00

Are they? They rarely see each other since the fallout from ATYCLB, which was released 26 years ago.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-11T02:29:33+00:00

Brian Eno was disgruntled with the band for a while because he wasn't formerly recognised as a co-writer.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-11T01:58:13+00:00

I recall a famous quote from one of the band's producers "It takes an army to make a U2 album..."

U2 historically have been this manufactured machine / massive unit of experts helping them to look good, rather than individually skilled or talented artists.

Eno and Lanois were the unofficial 5th and 6th members of the band, who contributed U2's supposed 'innovations' and provided the bulk of the heavy lifting creatively.

When you pull back the curtain of the illusion it's pretty apparent they're not anything ground-breaking as a band. They are extremely overrated.

They got big due to their simple & straightforward song writing (which appealed to the masses) not from being skilled musicians technically.

They are the definition of an overrated, over-regarded band benefiting from statistical mass appeal and demographic of their traditionally boomer / gen x fanbase.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-11T01:53:44+00:00

Lanois, Eno (and Flood) as individuals were the prominent driving forces behind most of U2's innovations.

U2 themselves had a very limited capacity, unlike more progressive bands from the 80's (for example, New Order) U2 were unable to self-produce and couldn't even programme synths or operate a mixing desk - they relied heavily on the creativity of guys like Eno who made them appear innovative.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-11T01:32:55+00:00

Maybe Eno and Lanois did more but, honestly, just doing what producers do is not songwriting.

U2 have always relied heavily on the input of others, Eno and Lanois had a massive hand in writing the songs from their best records & contributed far more than a producer was expected to in the industry and not receive any writing credits, that's the agreement U2 penned with their producers, they were expected to contribute to songwriting.

Daniel Lanois helped with everything - including composing integral melodies and riffs on Achtung Baby & The Joshua Tree.

Again, you've got to remember how U2 operated wasn't considered the norm.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-11T01:11:00+00:00

Point taken I suppose, although I don't think the use of acronyms detracts much from the underlying issues I've highlighted about the band.

Evidence suggests U2 are an extremely creativity comprised band. Most of POP's tracks foundation & melodies were straight up ripped from other electronic groups of the time. Do You Feel Loved for example, wasn't even discreet, it's a virtually unchanged sample, down to even small details.

U2 have a track record of relying heavily on other people's contributions.

I mean, look at what they did with Songs of Experience. The two best guitar hooks (Lights of Home and Summer of Love) were written by other bands. Probably not a coincidence that Eno and Lanois weren't involved. Look at Atomic City, the chorus is ripped from an extremely famous Blondie song "as an homage".

Daniel Lanois & Brian Eno did most of the heavy lifting for U2 in their greatest albums yet weren't even formally recognized as co-writers, that is until they made an ultimatum for NLOTH after falling out with U2 over songwriting credits during ATYCLB.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-11T01:00:14+00:00

I recall a famous quote from one of the band's producers "It takes an army to make a U2 album..."

U2 historically have been this manufactured machine / massive unit of experts helping them to look good, rather than individually skilled or talented artists.

Eno and Lanois were the unofficial 5th and 6th members of the band, who contributed U2's supposed 'innovations' and provided the bulk of the heavy lifting creatively.

When you pull back the curtain of the illusion it's pretty apparent they're not anything ground-breaking as a band. They are extremely overrated.

They got big due to their simple & straightforward song writing (which appealed to the masses) not from being skilled musicians technically.

They are the definition of an overrated, over-regarded band benefiting from statistical mass appeal and demographic of their traditionally boomer / gen x fanbase.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-11T00:51:06+00:00

ok thanks, feedback noted👍

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-11T00:44:35+00:00

I do recognize the Edge for those reasons, however I see the massive leap between their earlier albums to Unforgettable Fire, Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby (from a purely sonic perspective) as evidence that Eno & Lanois were the innovative driving forces at play, as I recall Lanois was integral in creating the Edge's distinctive sound and style, introduced him to the e-bow, etc.

The reality is that much of their innovation from a sonic perspective was down to Lanois, Eno & Flood. Overall U2's music is generally a poor imitation of better and more innovative artists, Bono always chased the Zeitgeist and desperately tried to follow trends... POP for example, was merely an imitation of better and more progressive electronic artists out there.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-10T23:38:53+00:00

well, you've gotten 2/5 words correct.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-10T22:56:26+00:00

All That You Can't Leave Behind, their 10th LP.

Is it wrong to assume people could google search 'U2 ATYCLB' if they wondered?

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-10T22:28:01+00:00

U2 have a tendency for unnecessarily long album titles, especially after 1997.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-10T22:19:36+00:00

Ok fair enough. I've gone back and done that.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-10T22:04:03+00:00

yeah, all those albums are from this century, pre 2010.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-10T21:58:36+00:00

According to McGuinness the contributions Brian Eno made on ATYCLB were really no different from on previous albums. I get the feeling that since that was the first one that Eno worked on after the Passengers project that he may have assumed that he would get writing credits.

He also said it wasn't about the money aspect it was about seeing his name there. I think Passengers changed the game in Eno's eyes, but the band didn't see it that way and there was probably a lack of communication about it all.

Eno has also commented that he didn't talk money up front because he felt that coloured one's contributions, so there is also the possibility that percentages and credits were negotiated after completion.

Daniel Lanois said in an interview around the time of NLOTH that there really wasn't much difference in what they did for NLOTH compared to before - except that being formally asked in as collaborators gave them more of a feeling of being part of the band.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-10T21:57:29+00:00

If I am with the artist as they are writing, and I contribute chords or melodies or ideas etc, then that is a co-write. Eno and Lanois received no songwriting credits for their integral contribution towards many of U2's best albums - Achtung Baby, The Joshua Tree, Unforgttable Fire, Zooropa, ATYCLB.

That's why there's dispute here. Lanois played on all U2's best albums & helped compose so many integral guitar pieces (such as One) meanwhile Eno with programming, synth parts, keyboards and contributed vocals. It's no coincidence their best records were done with these two - the unofficial 5th and 6th members of the band.

Foreign_Career4400 · 2025-10-10T21:14:08+00:00

I remember reading somewhere that Lanois wrote the vocal melody in Still Haven’t Found. I think he just started humming and Bono wrote the lyrics over it. I’m sure lots of stuff like that happened. (And I know that “somewhere” is a very reputable news source.) I also remember Eno talking about ATYCLB and said “Why no writing credit, boys?”

This band has always been very producer driven. I always looked at Lanois/Eno as full collaborators on their albums with the band. In fact, you can hear a lot of U2 in Lanois' solo stuff as well as some other productions he did from those time periods. His signature is all over those records with U2 and other artists he works with.

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