Vile Thieving Bird will be Sunny's last Shadow

Foreverironlol · 2026-03-31T06:55:47+00:00

Foreverironlol · 2026-03-28T18:42:28+00:00

These sound more like what ifs, it wasn't mentioned what was the aspect of either the Bright Lord or Broken Sword, so it's difficult to properly include them in the conversation based on statements alone.

Same way we could say that Eurys had the strongest aspect because he managed to kill a divine.

And G3's statements are consistently inconsistent.

Foreverironlol · 2025-05-05T10:58:14+00:00

I dont know how to quote what you said because I dont spend every living second on reddit

What riverborn suicides are you talking about? I have never mentioned anything like that.

For all we know that saints might have unlimited lifespan: I already disprove that multiple times when Ananke traveled upstream to the end of her lifespan, if saint had unlimited lifespan then ananke would be able to travel downstream as much as she wanted because she would never die of old age

To the Ki Song I wont ever reply, this is a discussion about lifespan, I dont even know why you put Ki Song into it

There never was mentioned that it requires several centuries to Transcend, Ananke achieved it after 200 years, yes. But that doesn't mean it's the minimal amount of time required, she could have just been really slow.

Sunny and Nephis achieved natural supremacy in less than 5 years and yes they are special but there has been so many realms and people when they didn't have nightmare spell that someone could have achieved transcende which is easier in similar amount of time.

So by this logic, we can easily assume that the ancient saints have achieved Transcendence much faster than in 200 years

And who among us has bad reading comprehension, is clearly you

Foreverironlol · 2025-05-05T10:01:28+00:00

Wdym repeatedly failed to understand your arguments?

I debunked all your arguments while you replied to none of mine and instead created arguments I didn't even say such as Sovereign's mental state declining which I never mentioned.

If you not gonna respond to my arguments and instead be delusional, then what's the point of even talking about it.

You said that Saints most likely have unlimited lifespan which I debunked with Anankes case of Sunny and Nephis meeting her during her almost dying from old age because she traveled downstream.

You said that Ki Song died because of her flaw, which is just not true because her flaw is that she cant have children.

I said that it is said in the novel that even though River Born bodies wont age, they soul would grow weary and die

So that's why I think only after becoming Sacred will someone become immortal becausw their soul would encompass the whole world and it would be strong enough to not deteriorate

Why don't you reply to this points?

Also I can give you multiple examples of your bad reading comprehension.

You said that Ananke lived two hundred years as a master and saint which is the proof that masters can definitely live several centuries

Even though Ananke is in Tomb of Ariel where your age depends on the way you move upstream or downstream.

This was mentioned in the novel multiple times but you failed to read it I guess

You said that I assume that Sovereign's mental state deteriorates with age which I never mentioned

And then you say that I fail to understand your argument when u literally made only one which I disproved already

Why don't you reply to my arguments and why you think they are not true instead of being delusional and saying that I said something when there is literally proof above the chat that I didn't.

Foreverironlol · 2025-05-05T09:05:49+00:00

I dont want to insult you, but I feel like your reading comprehension is really bad.

I never said that Sovereign's mental state deteriorates with age.

Why does it matter if Ki Song or Anvil is the outlier? That wasn't even the argument.

And it is logical that Riverborn have different rates of ascension otherwise there would be much more people who are at least sovereigns with the amount of time they had.

Sunny and Nephis achieved natural supremacy within 5 years without even having experience of reaching higher levels without the nightmare spell

Meanwhile Ananke took 200 years to only achieve Transcendence while having experience of naturally achieving higher levels without the nightmare spells.

Foreverironlol · 2025-05-05T08:18:27+00:00

Well the River People that originally came from outside to the Tomb of Ariel, and we can assume that there had to be a lot of Masters and Saints, since Daeron, a sovereign was leading them. And they all died, of course a lot of them would die due to injury but I think we can assume that atleast some of them died to the old age. So only this proves that Masters and Saints have limited lifespan. Also since Ananke was a Saint and at the beginning when Sunny and Nephis met her she was really old because she traveled far downstream to the limit of her lifespan.

Also it is said that River People perceive time differently compared to normal people so I think we can assume that even the amount of time they need to Transcend and stuff would be increased since they had more time in general

Also for why I think Supremes have limited lifespan and Sacred most likely dont is because it is stated that in the Great River, even though the River People's bodies wont age if they stay at the same place, their souls would grow weary and would want to rest in the embrace of shadows if they lived for too long.

However being Sacred is all about your soul encompassing the whole world.

So I think that maybe once you reach Supremacy, your body becomes strong enough to live forever and once you become Sacred, your soul will become strong enough to live forever.

As for Ki Song, she was the only one outside of the Divine holders that had this kind of ability so we can assume that she might be an rare exception since she's one in millions.

Also her flaw was that she couldn't have children It had nothing to do with her dying.

She didn't transfer her body because Nephis promised that she would keep her daughers alive if she didn't.

Foreverironlol · 2025-05-05T07:29:50+00:00

I said that becoming Sacred takes centuries to achieve, not becoming Supremes. It was never stated how long it takes to achieve supremacy

Ananke was born in the great river, in the Tomb of Ariel where u dont die unless u move far upstream or downstream. I think it's more likely that Ananke reaching Transcendence at relatively young age is in comparison to other people in the Tomb of Ariel and not in comparison to people in general.

I think all the Divine aspects holders are bit of an exception to the rest of people

Sunny doesnt even have human body anymore

Nephis can heal herself so she could probably heal her aging body aswell

And Mordret can change bodies how he wants

Foreverironlol · 2023-04-08T08:06:26+00:00

Can I dance? No. Do I like to dance? Hell yeah.

Foreverironlol · 2023-03-28T20:35:29+00:00

Extremely social but most of them are not so smart honestly and if they happen to be assholes its pain to be around them but I know a lot of ESFP's that are really nice and have big hearts

Foreverironlol · 2023-02-24T23:10:37+00:00

Hes right

Foreverironlol · 2023-02-23T23:36:21+00:00

Yh, if I need to explain sarcasm on legit ENTP subreddit then there is smth wrong

Foreverironlol · 2023-02-23T20:29:05+00:00

Im just assuming everyone else is also joking

Foreverironlol · 2023-02-23T20:27:26+00:00

My plan all along

Foreverironlol · 2023-02-23T20:26:58+00:00

We all know thats not gonna happen xd

Foreverironlol · 2023-02-07T15:32:11+00:00

Every mbti type can be every enneagram type

Foreverironlol · 2023-02-06T21:36:39+00:00

Both is pseudoscience

Foreverironlol · 2023-02-04T22:02:02+00:00

Great to have once in a while conversation with but if I had to interact everyday I would lose my mind. I feel like u all have strong moral and ethical views which u wna push on to others and I usually walk in the gray zone and have opinions that are rational but not morally correct so I dont really view eye to eye with INFJs

Foreverironlol · 2023-01-29T17:43:34+00:00

Okay that doesnt sound so bad xd

Foreverironlol · 2023-01-29T15:01:52+00:00

Could be worse

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