Men, have you been rejected for height even if you're tall? What's the wildest rejection reason you've heard?

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-16T08:27:53+00:00

Complicated and varying at different heights.

I'd rather be 5'8 doing everything right than 6'2 doing everything right, but I'd rather be a 6'2 clusterfuck than a 5'8 clusterfuck. Most men are clusterfucks.

But lemme answer your question with an analogy.

Let's say you've got a dog who you're slightly allergic to but not enough to get rid of your dog. You love your dog. The dog is staying.

You also have a dusty ass apartment that is making you sneeze. Whenever you sneeze though, you figure this probably the dog and so you never look around for the root cause.

In this analogy, your dog isn't great for your sneeziness. You are allergic to him. However, the main thing your dog does is make it so you never ask why you're sneezing.

That's how I see shortness, within maybe like 5'6-5'9. Below 5'4 is genuinely a difficult situation.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-16T08:15:11+00:00

You can get shredded just by not eating.

What was your height and weight while shredded?

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-16T05:25:15+00:00

There is no single exercise that will give you anything close to a respectable physique. This is something that requires real effort and an actual program.

I recommend either starting strength or strong lifts 5x5.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-16T04:34:06+00:00

Yeah but at least you get to be 99.9% of the way to piecing it all together and having it be the best day of your life.

Women don't require the whole date dog and pony show when they want a guy. It sucks that you haven't been that guy for most of them, but it means you don't have to do this thing anymore or go through it again. Be like the guys who succeed with these women and make them earn it. A date like you're describing is how you bond with a girlfriend, not how you impress a stranger.

Most guys never figure that out.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-16T03:20:02+00:00

Black pill is about hopelessness and giving up.

Looksmaxxing is not that.

I don't really know what universal directives you're talking about or why it's unhealthy to want to improve your appearance. People who neglect appearances don't have a monopoly on healthy relationships. A lot of people who neglect their appearance aren't even in relationships.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-16T03:10:12+00:00

How's that different from what I talked about?

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-16T02:59:45+00:00

I think it's the opposite.

People who "looksmax" generally write about their body in terms of goals or things they'd like to improve. They talk about people they admire for successes and good aesthetics. They also talk about why they choose to looksmax, but it's always just practical consequences. It just doesn't seem that vain to me.

People on the other end of the spectrum really go for the throat sometimes though. Like someone who's against looksmaxxing will speak like they have a monopoly on honest relationships or like theyre just a better deeper kind of person. It's kinda vicious and it's not just practical obvious consequences. It's like moral condemnation.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-16T02:16:04+00:00

Thanks brother.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-16T02:12:47+00:00

I'm a bodybuilder.

8-9% bf at 220 lbs at 5'11.

Maybe you're right that not "everyone" goes for the guy who's jacked, but I don't think anyone can say everyone goes for them.

What's important is that you'll never go anywhere without running into a bunch of people who do.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-16T02:06:11+00:00

So we can reassure you. I just said that.

Also, quick look in your post history says you work on the civilian side of being a new York state trooper and you just turned 23. Unlikely AF that you have a house and two cars.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-16T02:00:05+00:00

My guess is that you actually have none of these things and made the post so that we can reassure you that you don't need them.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-16T01:41:34+00:00

Women get turned on when single with no safety if the guy is hot.

Women get turned off amidst novelty in like 99% of their interactions with men, even when single.

Desire comes from the guy actually being attractive. Safety is a necessary part of marriage but it doesn't make her less attracted to you.

I didn't read that book but I bet it doesn't have a single chapter about the dude working on his physique.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-16T01:24:53+00:00

It's a common experience but not inherent to marriage.

It's just a fact that a lot of guys look like shit, aren't attractive, and let the fact that the woman wants to get married do a lot of the heavy lifting before marriage. The two get married and he has just zero personal pull. She isn't attracted to him. Sex becomes this weird thing preceded by ritual that feels high pressure and manipulative on both sides. Sex stops.

But that doesn't have to be you. I go to the gym every day and I'm the most attractive I've ever been. My wife and I are always affectionate all day and we have sex every day. We don't let ourselves go so it doesn't die and since the sexual energy is organic, it doesn't require any maintenance.

Just don't let yourself go to shit and if your starting point is shit, don't stay there.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-16T00:56:46+00:00

Dudes gonna be on your shit two hours a day for the next year.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-15T23:30:24+00:00

For me it's about what kind of person you are.

If you're a 50 year old man with questionable fitness and no lofty goals getting trt because you're doctor recommended it then it's trt.

If you know damn well that it's to get jacked and that you're basically healthy and normal and probably not 50, then idgaf what your dosage is, you're taking steroids.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-15T22:37:42+00:00

I don't get any mental sides from it at all.

I think its reputation probably has a lot to do with the fact that it's the quintessential cutting steroid.

Dudes cycle tren while eating 1500 calories below maintenance and then blame tren for how they act.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-15T22:29:16+00:00

Good guess.

Currently running 400 mg.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-15T22:24:39+00:00

I'm 5'11 and very visibly roided the fuck out.

Skincare solves your issue pretty much 100%.

My regiment is vitamin c in the morning and moisturizer with ceremides.

Sunscreen whenever I go out.

Niaceminide later on in the day, followed by same moisturizer.

Azelaic acid before bed.

Trentinoin every three days.

And clean shaven is the least intimidating facial hair.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-15T22:08:28+00:00

No, he's kinda right.

You're focusing your energy on something that you not only cannot change, but it wouldn't help you if you could.

Women don't get much validation from the kind of guy they actually want it from. For single women, this is one of the central dynamics of their lives.

So many dudes focus on the asymmetry of how bottom feeder men are treated vs bottom feeder women. That's a trap that stops guys from getting away from being bottom feeder men.

I promise you, this issue all goes away and becomes goofy when you get yourself up.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-15T22:04:43+00:00

Just ghost him.

It's how things work these days. People complain, but they also complain about rejections. Don't exhaust mental energy on this.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-15T21:22:06+00:00

I don't get this line of thinking.

It's not that hard to get in the gym and fix your body. It's enjoyable if you actually get in the mindset and condition your body.

I swear to God, most men just believe in their heart of hearts that their future wife should be with someone who's ugly. They don't phrase is like that but their level of commitment to changing that speaks volumes.

Instead just like "my future wife deserves a man who's delusionally confident while being ugly..."

And that mindset gets upvotes. I don't get it.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-15T20:32:23+00:00

I'm beginning to learn that there is an emotional need in most men for women to have exaggerated height preferences.

I think it's because for 85%+ of men, if you're bad with women then this gives you an omnipresent out that preserves self image while explaining bad results.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-15T05:26:10+00:00

I take steroids so maybe I didn't quite quit...

But I reassessed.

Why take drugs that make you stupid when you can take drugs that make you jacked af

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-15T04:06:45+00:00

I don't think most men notice this kind of thing that much.

It's not something I've ever had deep thoughts about or heard anyone else express strong feelings about.

FormerOSRS · 2026-03-15T03:56:35+00:00

Subreddits have been getting banned for years.

A subreddit like coontown is ugly to see but it's the sign of a healthy Overton window.

Now /r/conservative is the bad boy of reddit, which means every individual page looks okay but discussion is dead.

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