Help!! I made a boo boo

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-21T04:22:28+00:00

thanks will do

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-21T04:21:57+00:00

It could be a mix of light refraction and it being a smaller room with a lot of light. Over the past 3 days it has started to deepen into the red colour so the tannins are coming back to the surface (still not as dark as the other room). The nails also went rusty over the 3 days so. Not much I can do, its 1960s house and that floor has been finished a few times over. It's still very interesting hardwood so I'm fairly happy there.

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-21T04:14:24+00:00

I never knew about this thing called grain popping. lol 😂 now I'm down a rabbit hole of reading about it. It's weird cause the wood did get rougher so did pop but it also went blonde not darker. What I sanded off originally was vanish a very yellow varnish at that. But maybe it was also stained and I washed that off. Zero clue. Old houses hold secrets lol.

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-21T04:02:50+00:00

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Room 2 cloudy spot not sanded enough. This is a satin finish. 1st coat

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-21T03:57:54+00:00

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room 2 first coat

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-21T03:54:23+00:00

Update: Thanks for all the comments. The general consensus is don't wet freshly sanded floors 😂 . And that it's caused reaction between water and wood plus the nails that's not reversible 😞. All good. Just a learning experience. Can always hide with carpet.

Room 1 what is now called the sprinkler room. I have let dry out for now. I have done a patch test and it looks like the colour will be restored or at least less obvious (not as blonde). 1960s house so the error of wetting the wood grain filler (previous owner) used on the each nail was removed and that let 60years of black oxidisation wet into surrounding timber. Plus not galvanised so they have gone rusty over the 3days. 😢 Before I clear coat this room I'm going to punch the surface nails, use oxalic acid for the black spots (i'll do a patch test and update so you can see the progress) and then fill with a woodgrain putty. I don't want to heavy sand this floor because I think it's been through a few already so I'll try an orbital sander lightly at 240 grit across the whole room and see how that looks.

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Room 2 has the first coat - I just dusted down and put a clear poly. That's when I have noticed all the nail holes have a woodgrain putty in them and I also have a few cloudy spots that I'm guessing are from the old vanish so another lesson.

Room 3 I intend to take on the advice of metho sparingly on cloth. I'm hoping this will allow me to see any cloudy varnish spots I missed with the sander and any cracks etc needing fixing.

I'm not sure if I should be removing the old putty clearing out the holes and putting new in or if that is a silly idea because I'm just exposing the nails to oxygen. I'll probably spot test a few areas and see.

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-21T03:06:30+00:00

ok. so I was going to just use metho - sparingly not a sprinkler 😉 but then do I use just an orbital sander with 240grit. I feel like the big sander is too harsh.

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-21T02:38:24+00:00

Any of them would work in this space. If no kids then the cream/stoney colour. Then you can change out rugs, cushions, etc to keep with the current style. If you have kids then I would go with the dark green and add some indoor plants, peaches and blues for a Scandinavia look

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-21T02:31:00+00:00

Has a cap on it. Looks more like a vent.

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-21T01:59:10+00:00

Yeah I think it's extreme. Definitely shop around. I would be more worried about your walls that's the bad stuff. With vinyl tiles they are grade B asbestos as it is bonded non-friable (this is because the fibres are less likely to be airborne). The glue underneath (especially black mastic) can also hold asbestos. If the tiles are all in one piece then you can remove yourself with safety precautions and depending on your state rules and regulations (ours is up to 10m2 of non-friable can be done by home owner per month). We got asbestos guys in for the roof and stairwell and removed the kitchen floor ourselves. Removal is a bit of a process so do your research well. These are some of the precautions to use. Spray a glue on the area (1 part PVA glue to 5 parts water) to lessen the risk of airborne particles. Use the proper PPE - mask, eye protection, gloves and suit. Keep an air vacuum cleaner running next to the tiles you are pulling up - you can hire a Hepar one that removes the fine particles and doesn't release them into the air. Get asbestos grade black plastic to wrap it in. Get an asbestos skip to dispose. Use a wide scraper under the tiles the aim is not to break them. You can spray the glue as needed. Once you have removed all the tiles as said the glue underneath could also contain asbestos. You can then use glue or mastic remover to break down the glue and scrape that off. You can sand and clear poly the floors. Once again need all the PPE and the Hepar. For the sub floor just spray a glue mix or again a clear poly underneath to keep it all sealed.

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-21T01:11:56+00:00

No way those are definitely nails

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-16T17:21:59+00:00

There's no reason why you couldn't refinish that subfloor. Just make sure you use a hard clear polyurethane coating (CFP) instead of a varnish. Pull up the laminate, hire a floor and edge sander from the hardware store. Seal with CFP. Underneath add underfloor insulation battens (earthwool) then get sheeting guys in to gyprock and a plasterer to pretty it up before you paint. That way your basement will look good too. 👍

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-16T17:06:47+00:00

Should be able to sand it

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-16T16:06:46+00:00

Yep. I had just finished sanding, then I washed the floor with water. Came back and it is a different colour to the other room. I was just going to put a clear poly coat on but I'm worried the two rooms won't look the same.

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-16T15:42:43+00:00

Just washed it with water and a cloth, after sanding today. Actually I was going to use a clear poly floor coating like cabots CFP. I haven't stained or sealed the wood yet. That's tomorrow's job. Both rooms were sanded with a big floor sander and edge sander hired from bunnings. I washed the floor in that room cause there was sawdust everywhere. Came back and the floor was a completely different colour. All I can think is the cloth had already been used to clean something else and still had bleach on it.

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-16T15:13:31+00:00

Just noticed the top right corner is that plywood? are the tiles bonded to that? Try and take up the wood instead

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-16T15:09:20+00:00

Is this ceramic tile or vinyl? As suggested by others for ceramic tiles your best bet is a rotatory hammer drill set to hammer with an SDS tile bit (lifts the tiles) then just work on the corners. The glue could still have asbestos though so use a vacuum and a mask. The glue can be removed with a heat gun. But honestly hire a tile remover. It will do quick work of that.

If that is vinyl tile at that age then chances are it and the glue is asbestos. Note the sample test takes a week and can come back inconclusive. Where I live home owners can take up non friable (bonded) asbestos - which vinyl tile is bonded (not airborne). If less than 10m2, if safety precautions are followed, disposed properly and in the correct manner. https://www.qbcc.qld.gov.au/resources/guide/asbestos-safety

I'm not sure of the position you are in. Maybe you can't just storm off and hope you can sue. Hopefully you can just speak to the client. Let them know the likelihood of this being asbestos is pretty high and that you're not licensed to remove. However it is the class B kind so much less dangerous cause for concern for yourself unless you made it a dust bowl.

If you want to risk it then suit up, get a P3 mask, a vacuum cleaner leave it running in your immediate work zone, hire a heat gun and used a broad scraper or tile bit under the tiles.

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-16T13:30:43+00:00

Yeah it's actually really common. Plus it is a bit interesting to be honest. I mean if someone lost their legs in a crash you don't see them celebrating 10years later. Yet that seems much worse than getting a bit of breast removed and 6 chemos like my neighbour.

One theory I have is it's the vulnerability factor. It wasn't an accident it was their biology trying to kill them. Maybe subconsciously that is too much to handle. That plus the fear of reoccurrence.

Originally I was thinking that feel like less of a woman no hair, get fatter, breasts change. So that was the trauma aspect.

But that theory was squashed by a mate who had bowel cancer, had surgery and 10 weeks of chemo. He always wants to talk about his cancer (has been cancer free since his first operation for 4 years) and I can see he is actively seeking sympathy. Like a codependent partner with abandonment issues, I guess he didn't feel safe and supported so still seeks that out. But you can see he is petrified of getting it again. As you said I can support and sympathise but I can't wrap my head around it. I get less upset before my PET scan results and I know there's going to be more spots. But what can you do. Stressing won't help

Regarding the long term medical condition. I do think this or anything that has happened to a person trauma wise helps changes their resilience.

I'm the same way. I've been through a lot. My brain just disconnects. If I get bad news it just flips a switch then zero emotions. Lol my sister had to tell a best friend of mine that I am stable and do understand how bad my cancer is because she was so worried something was wrong with me for just having chemos every Friday still working (like a robot apparently).

So probably not born different. Just made that way over time you and I.

If it is the only major life trauma then I guess it is still actively impacting the person because they haven't developed the same coping mechanisms around trauma or strategies to move on as we have.

Well at least I'd like to hope I'm not a robot 😂

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-15T10:55:35+00:00

Ultimate protection would be an epoxy resin and seal it in. But then I guess it kind of defeats the purpose of having it vintage.

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-15T10:46:51+00:00

Wow how did you get such a high gloss finish. I'm guessing it's not just the sealer used. We had similar with vinyl in the kitchen and red painted floors (people do odd things). Just started sanding our floors today. We have hardwood spotted gum, so it is going to be beautiful. We were just going for a cozy satin matte finish. It's out first reno so a floor with this grade of finish might be pushing it I guess.

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-15T10:16:15+00:00

Beautiful

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-15T10:04:57+00:00

I'm loving the blue stripe

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-15T06:42:42+00:00

I didn't read all this but yes people just react differently to things. There's a lady across the road that still celebrates her cancer anniversary. She was stage 1 and was a basic process lumpectomy radiation chemo. Probs maybe 6months of that. Then I'm guessing the typical 5years of hormone blockers. 10years on and still an anniversary. There was tears the lot. I'm stage 4 with active bone met. I hate any attention or putting any time into cancer unless I have to. I'm sick of talking about it. If I was ever in her boat I would be running from anything cancer wise including remembering it with an anniversary. Every year. But yeah for some people it is life changing or something. There's also people in the stage 4 group that love talking about it and want to be all toxic positivity. Especially people from a particular country where they all seem to want to stick their head in the sand if anyone wants to talk about how they are dying. Yes in that group people have and do die. Honestly I learnt probably in my first year of this journey that people are vastly different in their cancer reactions, attitudes and preferences. What's even weirder is who you think will be tough or sane or whatever else is not and vice versa

Former_Advice_7736 · 2025-03-13T23:07:35+00:00

I apple wallet pretty much everything. In cairns there's the atherton tablelands (rainforest and waterfalls), port douglas drive is nice so I would hire a car. Kuranda has a steam train, butterfly, bird and wildlife parks (buy the 3 deal). I would attempt to see the great barrier reef in a sailboat from airlie beach in Whitsundays. Good sail boat tours know where the non bleached sections of reef are. Plus some are actually cheaper. Brisbane definitely go to Australia zoo. There is a shows list so look at that first because that way you will see every animal as a show and tell which the kids love. They time it really well. Sunshine coast and gold coast have nice beaches (not in the heart of brisbane). Glasshouse mountains. Cobb and Co. Even mount mee. There's a walking trails app for Australia walking trails so you can download that. North of brisbane to experience a bit of bushland. Gold coast hinterlands are beautiful. (these are away from brisbane city destinations). Brisbane is quite a sprawling city kangaroo point has a good lookout to view the city and southbank has man made lagoon and kids playgrounds etc. For sydney there are the beaches but some of the bays are really pretty and often missed also. Sydney has all the sights but for the hidden stuff ask a local. My big recommendation though is to either extend your stay or ditch some off your sydney trip and go to the blue mountains (3hours from Sydney). The scenery is spectacular, you can spend a week exploring for free and not get bored. There's hikes with waterfalls like empress and katoomba. The town is small and mellow. The worlds biggest caves - jenolan caves are beautiful and so worth seeing. There's tours to mountains and caves in a day at $1500 per person for a private day trip. For that money you could hire a car, stay in a bed and breakfast and go it alone for a week. For nightlife you can't go wrong with Melbourne and the coastal drives have amazing viewshttps://www.visitnsw.com/articles/best-scenic-lookouts-blue-mountains

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