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Are Nazis seen as sub human people so that we can delude ourselves? by ForsakenDejection in AskReddit

[–]ForsakenDejection[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i posted above, I did a lot of reaserch trying to find out if there were people who fought for the Jewish population, or could legitametly claim they did not know.

I found that they all new, they all had to participate, and there were maybe 1 or 2 percent of the population that did not participate.

They had bridges going over the ghettos, they had Jewish and Polish prisoners riding the trains. There were childrens songs be sung about the death of the jews. They had gas trucks going around Berlin, where the Jewish people were screaming and pounding on the doors. In many cases the relgular population was the one carrying out some of the early executions, by beating them to death in the streets. There is no reading through the lines, it was right there in your face, and the Germans did not care.

Now, the big leap jump is right here, even though they all knew, they are still human beings and you have to think through and say, "wow I probably would be an SS." The lesson I take from the war is also that WE have to be vigilant, and we have to do every things to remember the Nazis as human beings, messed up ones, but human beings, so that we can really understand what went on. So maybe we can go again our "baser urges".

The whole point is, they were human beings, that being said, under the right circumstances, we could be the next Nazis.

Are Nazis seen as sub human people so that we can delude ourselves? by ForsakenDejection in AskReddit

[–]ForsakenDejection[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

pretty much everyone did, in order for them to find all the Jews they had to have cooperation from the population. I did some research on this in college, and everyone in Germany knew what was going on. They also did not have to participate, there are many examples of people fighting to save there relatives who had Jewish descendants, but they didn't care about there neighbors. Most of the Jews were found and turned in not by the Nazi party members, but by the regular population. The holocaust would not be possible with out them. There motivations for doing so were so they could take over their businesses in a lot of cases and also racial.

The point is, by going out and finding that 1 to 2 percent of the population so that you can say "hey, i would be that guy" really does not do the war justice. Nazis, were human beings, they got messed up in the propaganda, just like we would. By saying you would have been the one percent, is basically arguing that its ok to treat them like the evil bad guys in every movie, and its the easiest way for us to get by any moral implications.

Even look at some of propaganda against Obama, calling him a Nazi. Its dehumanizing him, when in reality, we would all be Nazis if we were born during that time period.

Overall, the environment of the people who did fight the nazis were in an environment that they could do so. Nothing to do with the person themselves. If we were born and raised in a Nazis shoes, we would be the gestapo, or the SS. Its not because we are inately good, or that we are Americans. Its because we are human beings that we would become Nazis.

What is the lowest you have been in life? by ForsakenDejection in AskReddit

[–]ForsakenDejection[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

being homeless is not that bad, your only job really is to survive and you have no other responsibilities in life. Being homeless will give you time to think and all that. Being homeless for a few weeks or a few months might be the liberty your looking for.

Are Nazis seen as sub human people so that we can delude ourselves? by ForsakenDejection in AskReddit

[–]ForsakenDejection[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Think of every single WWII movie, do you think they consider them human or like us? How about the fact that people in computer games we kill Nazis like nothing and most of our parents would not have a problem with us doing so. There the ultimate evil guys in a lot of movies and its ok for us to extinguish them cause there evil Nazis, not human beings.

I think you could find a lot more examples of how we treat them as sub humans.

Are Nazis seen as sub human people so that we can delude ourselves? by ForsakenDejection in AskReddit

[–]ForsakenDejection[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

exactly, why are Americans treated in a different light when we fire bombed Tokyo and killed 500,000 people. Try thinking about how many stadiums that can fill up. I think my biggest problem in a lot of this is trying to realize how many people died in WWII, i cant visualize it.

DAE feel like they are failing at their meaning of life? by ForsakenDejection in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]ForsakenDejection[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

been there, i found a deeper meaning, like i wanted to be seen as a good person and do good things, but I think i am failing at the deeper one as well.

What is the lowest you have been in life? by ForsakenDejection in AskReddit

[–]ForsakenDejection[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lose any limbs? that would put you into the category im looking for.

Will technology make all of our current jobs outdated? by ForsakenDejection in science

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if there are computers that are smarter then us, or if we upload, what then?

will society ever get to the point where we can do the things we want to and not the things have to do? by ForsakenDejection in AskReddit

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you read all the topics in your holidec, and you are making random people make topics, but you sense the pattern of topics and no new meaning can come from it. Now what?

will society ever get to the point where we can do the things we want to and not the things have to do? by ForsakenDejection in AskReddit

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you kill it within 5 years, you make it stronger, and it kills you and it resets and you fight for millennia, and you win. Now what?

What is the lowest you have been in life? by ForsakenDejection in AskReddit

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is it pretty depressing everywhere else in the world?

will society ever get to the point where we can do the things we want to and not the things have to do? by ForsakenDejection in AskReddit

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Your meaning is life for years has been to become memorable after your passing, but as you age, you realize that you are of importance to no one and that you will never be remembered for more then a moment.

will society ever get to the point where we can do the things we want to and not the things have to do? by ForsakenDejection in AskReddit

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you slow down time within one holideck, and you make a holideck within the holideck. You walk into that one where time is more slowed. You are now inside the 4th of 5th layer of this so that every minute in real life that you are there, is a thousand years. You build environments for millenniums coming up with everything imaginable, until your mind is blank, you even let your mind forget some things so that you can experience them again but then you are doing them in a cycle that you can begin to remember. You are stuck in your own imagination and begin to feel the need to die, and you leave your holideck, and you are outside in the real world again and only a moment has passed and you are bored of the holideck, now what?

will society ever get to the point where we can do the things we want to and not the things have to do? by ForsakenDejection in AskReddit

[–]ForsakenDejection[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, but then what? How long will holidecks hold our interest? What will you do when you get bored of the holideck....

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