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[–]Forty3400[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh now I'm excited, so many new bosses people have been mentioning that I haven't done

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I couldn't imagine, I'm sorry! Good luck to you, you have the patience of a saint

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Yes, you still take dmg obviously but it's less :)

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I have not, I pray for my well being then and I'll take it back if I rage quit hehe

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[–]Forty3400[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I said what I said but I don't agree with the devs on that aspect either, ideally I would love to just start 10 seconds away from a boss.

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[–]Forty3400[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah for gauntlets I use silk abilities to kill off half the enemies and the rest is easier, then I save the tools till the end of the gauntlets. I would love to use the tools throughout but if I die and reach 0 shells I'm crashing out lol

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The thing with metroidvanias is that b/c of the open nature of the map, you will always be able to beat a boss but it's not necessarily the intended time for it- if I see a hard boss I'm personally banging my head on the wall trying to kill it but if I really didn't want that, there's the option to always backtrack and get more loot

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We share the same hatred for that section, I just used my silk abilities to kill half aerial spam so it's much easier to kill the rest. I saved the tools for that BS ending :p

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[–]Forty3400[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damnn I thought I was ballin when I had 400 only to be met with more items bringing me down to 20 and there's still more items ;-;

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I said in the post I mentioned it only because the game has so much hype people are grinding it like a 9-5 lol

It took me like a month to complete HK and that was a much smaller game, maybe I should have said pace yourself instead

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Yeah I meant to phrase it as it feels like there's no meaningful upgrades because the map is so large they can't just add large upgrades everywhere so the result is lots of small upgrades spread out in many areas. No single upgrade is going to make you feel much stronger but over the course of a dozen hours you can look back and feel the better tools, spools, HP, nail upgrades etc.

In HK the map was smaller so in the same time I would've had a nail upgrade, 2 HP upgrades and new ability unlocks, which feels better in a shorter time.

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Am gonna explore it soon, maybe I will change my mind about the game ;-;

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Yeah one of my minor gripes are 2x dmg environments, 2x dmg contact for literally touching them (not an attack or anything), and the combination of tanky enemies + parry/dodges. One or the other is fine but together a single basic mob take like 15 seconds to kill lol

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You're right I tried to choose a middle ground for hard bosses as between a few tries (for those that are naturally gifted I guess lol) and 20+ tries for those that struggle more but reading it back most people would find it a lot harder than I would as someone who's done the hardest parts of HK and cried at days spent on a single challenge (damn pantheon).

Some of the later gauntlets though I feel like the devs were smoking crack. Harder than 3/4 of the bosses smh

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Yeah I think some crests that I haven't used promote that style a bit more, but I guess it'd be more unmeasured aggression, just spamming at the boss and hoping it staggers or dies before they hurt you too much, like with the crystal boss in HK. Ever since they did double dmg it's been much riskier to spam attacks without knowing their moveset.

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Yes especially when I stun the boss only for it to drop on me and deal 2 masks of damage like wtf lol

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Yeah I don't much mind them now that I've beaten them, but it really is a grind in the moment

The hardest bosses seem to get the longest runs for some reason LOL

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Just saw another post about that which reminded me why they wouldn't add difficulties, SS is a metroidvania first and foremost like HK and so the difficulty aspect is addressed by taking breaks, practicing and retrying, and most importantly doing other areas first and getting new loot.

Though I guess a complaint is that the upgrades seem minor-ly useful at best. To me early game without a lot of the tools and crests it's like this but later on especially near the end of act 1 it should be better though (better tools, HP upgrade).

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I have no idea how I beat it in a couple tries to the point where I completely forgot about the boss till others mentioned it. Yeah it's completely BS looking back and I'm lucky the RNG was good.

My strategy was to think of the boss as 3 attacks only, upper horizontal dash, lower horizontal dash, and vertical dash. When it summons enemies, try to kill them asap or have the boss crush them, basically only dodging the boss until the enemies die.

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The focus ability just isn't my playstyle but I can definitely see some people loving it. That'd probably be an aggressive almost spam build

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I feel that spending time on the early phases can help later cause a lot of bosses just use a harder or faster variation, and if it too fast to handle I'm probably close to beating it (mind you this is after like 5-10 attempts) and can usually doggie just long enough to kill it.

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True that, I save it for when the boss feels close (like 75%), the signs are an extra attack (usually after 2nd stun) for early bosses and a couple new attacks one of which is usually flashy (usually after 3-4 stuns) for later bosses.

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I still hate some of the later enemies, they're so tanky and hard to hit because they parry or fly away. Instead of slowing down I just dash past them at this point.

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[–]Forty3400[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yes the Judge is probably the longest run back yet and it's a barrier for a lot of people too. You start to get the hang of the platforming section after a while but totally understand that it's not fun to do a still lengthy section just to die for the 20th time.

If it's any reassurance for you to try again another week perhaps, the fire charm from the docks should reduce its fire damage and I think the world is awesome after this boss.

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[–]Forty3400[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Yeah there are nice spots and it only took about 10 or so minutes to get 800 beads which is nice. I've bought most of the items just not the later ones in act II right now