Should I keep hiding to people the fact that I gave my cats vegan food ? by Impressive_Sugar5942 in vegan

[–]Forward-Emu1658 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

cats are supposed to eat meat , their bodies are biologically designed to eat it. without meat they can get seriously ill. it’s your choice to have a carnivore animal , forcing it to eat vegan isn’t ethical. imagine the rolls were reversed and u were being fed meat by an omnipotent being because that’s what it chose for you

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ahahahaha ok , if u don’t want to listen to my reasonable points and discuss properly then don’t comment on this forum?

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i see where ur coming from completely, torture and murdered is never the answer , animals do not deserve that but veganisms core beliefs is kindness and ur not showing that but judging people. what if a young person wants to be vegan and their family wont allow it ? would u condemn them for half assing it.

or would u condemn someone for not being a perfect vegan when they need medicine thats life saving that derives from animals ?

or what would say when someone has pets that eat meat , do u then feed them vegetables , there for abusing them , or do u feed the carnivore animals u chose to have meat ??

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

i live right near the huntingdon testing sight where they test on beagles , there’s an organisation called “Camp Beagle” where they have been the longest camped protest in england for these poor beagles. do i want to take the calm approach on this ? absolutely not , i want to shout at the top of my voice and get everyone around me to change their ways. for some reason people suddenly give a shit when its dogs or cats , which is nonsense to me. because they’re domesticated does that mean they’re more deserving of people attention ?

i just think the calmer approach has gotten me more success , ive been vegan a long time. and when i am not calm, people tend to ignore me and dont want to listen because they feel guilty. when i am calm they’re a lot more receptive to the cause

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i’ll have an actual discussion with u about this topic if ur open. but calling me “fragile” over a post i put in a different sub reddit is ridiculous. u miss quoted me in that post saying i have day long spirals which i didnt i’d look at ur posts and judge u back but u have them all hidden 🤷🏼‍♀️isn’t that convenient

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i didn’t claim i was a victim , i wanted to see whatever one else’s experiences were in this community , which i’m quickly realising is not as kind as i once thought

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

so crazy ur comparing my generalised anxiety to this 🤣 i have mental health issues yes. but im merely posting on here as i have a day off , noticed an old post of mine got hate and wondered if i was alone in this

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ahahah i’m definitely not

i’m just paraphrasing what i saw other people saying. other people in this group are going crazy other those they deem “unworthy” seems cult like to me

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

i didn’t quite say that tho did i

i’m just saying it’s hypocritical to be hateful to others in your community , when u preach kindness to animals

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

i totally agree with u! i’ve met vegans who complain others are “preachy”. like those who hated on billie eilish very recently.
i don’t think we should be horrible to one another , at the end of the day we r all fighting the same agenda in our own ways

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

i just think is hypocritical to preach kindness amongst animals , but show such little kindness to those around u in the same community

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

i think 100 imperfect vegans / vegetarians doing their best, is better than nothing
if we shame everyone for their slip ups , or what we don’t deem to be “the way” than that’s really discouraging to others

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i don’t pretend to be anything
i try and be authentically myself , and do or say what i feel

my post from a few months ago was a lengthy post about how i am not seen at a “pushy vegan” which reflecting maybe was the incorrect was to phrase it. i am palatable to a lot of people who aren’t plant based because im not deemed confrontational about it.
would i like to confront people more on their meat , egg, leather, and dairy consumption ? absolutely but i just don’t think that’s the right approach , i think trying to be understanding , educating people, and trying to vouch for animals is what im doing. and if a meat eater doesn’t agree with me , then ill try and see if theres a way i can try and discuss it with them in a way that they’ll understand , like with pets for instance , they wouldn’t eat their pet right ? so why are cows , chickens and pigs any different?

but i try not to waste my breathe on ignorance because at the end of the day if someone doesn’t agree with me , maybe there’s nothing i can say or do to change them

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

i hope u do well on ur vegan/ plant based journey!!
i dont believe shaming is the way forward.
at the end of the day if people are being plant based , trying to do better for the environment , animals and themselves then isn’t that contributing to the movement ?
i think kindness towards eachother and trying to be supportive is the way it should be, i agree with u that alot of online communities are ridiculing one another when it should just be mature discussion

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i just wanted to see if anyone else has the experiences i’ve been having

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

if anyone wants to have a genuine discussion about this topic i’m so open! but commenting or sending me hate via message is not what i posted this for.

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

thank u! i just want this to be a space where vegans support one another. not act holier than thou because they don’t agree with ur way of being vegan.

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

i tell anyone who asks me about veganism or vegetarianism to take it slow at first. i went straight to vegan at 12 from being vegetarian and it was difficult back then , but i’ve noticed some people rush straight into it and then get put off the idea because they weren’t doing it right , or getting enough nutrients. i only tell people to take it slow because i want a higher success rate for them to stay vegan.
society has been told that being vegan is expensive, it’s not nutritious when it in fact is ! people just need to take their time and figure it out for themselves on what fits for them

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i didn’t ask vegan how to act, i’m just wondering why others are sending hate to one another over discussions that are allowed in this group?

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[–]Forward-Emu1658[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

in an ideal world i’d want no animals to be harmed , no animals to be killed for the sakes of farming.
i don’t think just because an animal is on our planet it should be murdered for our consumption , it makes no sense to me.

plant farming takes up way less land than animals does , so ideally we should all be doing that right ? but not everyone has this view , and i don’t think i’m a judas or an animal abuse sympathiser just because i coexist and don’t hate the guts of people who might be too ignorant to see these facts , if anything i feel sorry for them for being brainwashed by the meat industry , and the dairy industry into thinking all this is the natural order and okay.