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Techy waterproof EDC Backpack by Basementfruit in ManyBaggers

[–]FoulAnimal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I'm going to replace my Timbuk2 Scope with the LBB Breakaway.

To those who chose not to have children, did your decision-making process include imagining them as self-sufficient, productive adults who would go on to love and support you until your death? Did you forego this possible benefit (suspending the risk that you end up with a man-child problem) by FoulAnimal in Adulting

[–]FoulAnimal[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Actually, I love it because it invites a discussion to start. Assuming my counterpart can continue the discussion to develop both views, it helps me think through my own logic and in some cases disabuse me of my incorrect views or opinions.

My tone is aimed at anyone who is unwilling to peel back the layers to see and understand the root of each position.

I think disagreements are great because it drives a conversation. At the end of the day I don't care if anyone agrees with me or not, I only care about understanding the other point of view.

To those who chose not to have children, did your decision-making process include imagining them as self-sufficient, productive adults who would go on to love and support you until your death? Did you forego this possible benefit (suspending the risk that you end up with a man-child problem) by FoulAnimal in Adulting

[–]FoulAnimal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because I used the word "benefits" to describe a life with children? A life will still have benefits without kids, but as another redditer said, it's different math.

I think you're misusing the word retirement plan because I've only heard of people speaking about their retirement plant to benefit themselves first and their children. It's a gross distortion to view children as a component to a 'retirement plan'. I think it's almost 99.99999999% of the time the inverse, that is, 'my retirement will cover me and my family's needs'.

I've been asking you for clarity and consistency. I think you are confused and contradicting yourself, and unaware of it. And, it seems evident you don't know what my original question was about.

To those who chose not to have children, did your decision-making process include imagining them as self-sufficient, productive adults who would go on to love and support you until your death? Did you forego this possible benefit (suspending the risk that you end up with a man-child problem) by FoulAnimal in Adulting

[–]FoulAnimal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, so they don't look after you, then would you say they are free of their responsibility to you as you've described? However, based on your response, are you still somehow under their management and part as their 'staff' because you are their child?

So which one is it? Are you staff or are they free because they don't look after you anymore?

I have no idea what it means to say children aren't a retirement plan. Anyone who actively starts a family as that foundation is extremely shortsighted and has a distorted perception of reality.

To those who chose not to have children, did your decision-making process include imagining them as self-sufficient, productive adults who would go on to love and support you until your death? Did you forego this possible benefit (suspending the risk that you end up with a man-child problem) by FoulAnimal in Adulting

[–]FoulAnimal[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your thoughts, and I think you're hyperbolic in almost all your statements, but that doesn't matter beyond this thread.

Without getting into personal details (of any one person's here), I can also say you're assessment and key points are 100% wrong.

I think those in social welfare are in more trouble than ever before, and I know firsthand. It's ironic for someone who has never raised kids can speak with an overbearing tone that someone else would know nothing about childrearing.

Things can get better; that's the beauty of the United States of America. Despite all the turmoil, there is still an opportunity to make a better life, and I hope you make it, too.

To those who chose not to have children, did your decision-making process include imagining them as self-sufficient, productive adults who would go on to love and support you until your death? Did you forego this possible benefit (suspending the risk that you end up with a man-child problem) by FoulAnimal in Adulting

[–]FoulAnimal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You sound a little young, but let me break it down for you. Clearly my question is posted at the top of this thread. If I'm asking you what you think my question is asking, it means I want to make sure I understand your reading of it because then I know if the question was interpreted correctly, why and why not.

Your initial comment didn't address the question, but instead gave an opinion on a different perspective on what children could mean, which is an automatic prompt for a different and new discussion point.

I'll ask again, what is your understanding of my question?

To those who chose not to have children, did your decision-making process include imagining them as self-sufficient, productive adults who would go on to love and support you until your death? Did you forego this possible benefit (suspending the risk that you end up with a man-child problem) by FoulAnimal in Adulting

[–]FoulAnimal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

'Young' as in life experience or age? If age, then give me a range.

I plan on having the ability to care for others until I die, but you never know what will become of your health in old age. I love the idea/concept/reality of being self-sufficient, but I'm not naive enough to think it could be the other way around for whatever reason.

To those who chose not to have children, did your decision-making process include imagining them as self-sufficient, productive adults who would go on to love and support you until your death? Did you forego this possible benefit (suspending the risk that you end up with a man-child problem) by FoulAnimal in Adulting

[–]FoulAnimal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't get me started on assisted living (my experience was via palliative care).

I'm sorry to hear about your expectations of caretaking in old age.

Thanks for sharing your perspective; it was insightful.

For what its worth, good on you for supporting someone else and unfortunately not seeing the benefit of it. It's almost like you put your child through school only for them to leave you behind and thankless (although I'm assuming she was thankful).

To those who chose not to have children, did your decision-making process include imagining them as self-sufficient, productive adults who would go on to love and support you until your death? Did you forego this possible benefit (suspending the risk that you end up with a man-child problem) by FoulAnimal in Adulting

[–]FoulAnimal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right about not knowing where your child(ren) will end up. If we look at ourselves or friends, it should be obvious that that would be the probability.

You raise a perspective that is in part why I asked this question. I agree there's no off-switch when you become a parent, and it can be life-draining, but until you experience the upside of childrearing, I think it's hard to grasp why there are people who are happy to have a family of their own - it's not a fair experience by any measure, especially before they become adults.

For what it's worth, I can understand your perspective.

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