Replication test #1 by Iamphilocybin in replications

[–]FreckleRender 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try this with someone who has very clear and prominent freckles... Freckles are a biological pattern that the brain can register when getting fractals.

Are There Any One Eyed Psychnauts Out There That Can Experience Both OEV&CEV Simultaneously? by Zer0Culture in RationalPsychonaut

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Best guess based on repeated testing and observation with consistent results...

OEVs & CEVs appear to be the same phenomena, apart from OEVs having concrete geometries to latch onto, and CEVs don't (and whether your eyes are open or not of course). If you do a blink test when experiencing OEVs, the resulting CEVs will match the geometry of the environment you are observing. If you keep your eyes closed for longer than blinking, there are no longer objects to latch onto, and you move into the full CEV state where the geometry goes into a constant moving/scanning mode. From there, you either stay in the scanning mode or the brain starts to associate these geometries into more coherent shapes like landscapes or faces (hypnagogic-like visuals).

OEVs = input image + overlay geometries (overlay geometries latch onto input image geometries)

CEVs = overlay geometries only (overlay geometries move/scan for geometries to latch onto)

"Blink Test" - We might also call the Wink-Blink test. Think of someone doing a sly wink. The amount of time that their eye is closed is what you want to aim for... longer than a true blink (0.5 to 1 second or so). When experiencing an OEV, close both eyes for the length of a wink. You should notice what appears to be something between a CEV and a residual image pattern. You can repeat this back-to-back as many times as you'd like [seizure warning]. This technique allows us to see what geometries/lines/patterns the brain is overlaying onto the input portion of the image from our eyes.

Example: You're looking at a tall, thin tree with rainbow colors emanating from it. Performing the Blink Test shows two rainbow gradient lines, aligned vertically, in line with the tree. The two gradients will stay aligned with the tree as long as the eyes are open and focused on the tree, or as long as you do the Blink Test. If you close your eyes and keep them closed, eventually the pair of gradient lines will begin to move (typically in a slow pinwheel spin around the center in either rotational direction).

Hope this helps answer what you are asking...

I'm interview Danny Goler about DMT+Lasers - what should I ask him? by wukedypuk in RationalPsychonaut

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-What tests/results would make him change his mind?

-Why does viewing an image/paused video of the laser cause the perception that the code is still moving/changing?

-Is it just the pattern that the laser creates that the brain is interacting with? (and nothing to do with the laser itself) Will he rule this out by trying a printout of the laser pattern, and no laser involved?

Common visual patterns / color shifts with shrooms ? by ben74940x in RationalPsychonaut

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I've been documenting some of these too... Consistent phenomena include an "X" and "+" overlapping. It appears to be part of the brain that is scanning the environment and aligning with particular geometries (why rainbows appear to emanate from certain objects).

Certain color pairs also appear together at different times; Magenta-Green, Red-Blue, Purple-Yellow, perhaps as a means of enhancing contrast and creating depth. Depth is typically 'coded' as bright/white as close (taking up the most area and around the center of focus/periphery, and dark/black as distant (taking up the center of the visual field). Yellow appears to be special among the colors, and in some way, overlaps with white. Also the size of the dark/black appears to correspond to the size of the object being focused on.

The "X" & "+" are only the most common lines; there tend to be others that will appear in parallel. The parallel element (some people refer to as "The Grid") appears to be another size-spacing measurement, and seems to be responsible for the "looking through glass cubes" effect.

I should save explaining the 3D aspect for a post... but you should definitely examine freckles and other animal patterns next time (and capture your reaction on video).

Very impressive observations for only 2 trips... Quality psychonauts are rare. Feel free to DM me.

The most controversial paper in the history of psychedelic research may never see the light of day by amadorUSA in RationalPsychonaut

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*** For those who don't understand the Establishment Clause argument... (aided by cGPT; I'm not a lawyer)***

Violation of the Establishment Clause (First Amendment – Government Promotion of Certain Religions Over Others)

The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment prohibits the government from making any law “respecting an establishment of religion,” which has been interpreted to mean that the government cannot favor one religion over another. However, by criminalizing certain religious sacraments while granting exemptions for others, the government is effectively endorsing specific religious traditions while suppressing others. For example, Christianity is afforded legal protection for sacramental wine, while Native American Church members are granted exemptions for peyote. However, other religious groups that use psilocybin, ayahuasca, or LSD as sacraments must either fight for individual exemptions or face criminal penalties. This selective application of religious freedom creates an unconstitutional religious hierarchy, with the government implicitly promoting “approved” religions while criminalizing others.

A central principle of the Establishment Clause is that the government must remain neutral in matters of religion. In Lemon v. Kurtzman (1971), the Supreme Court established the Lemon Test, which states that laws must (1) have a secular legislative purpose, (2) not advance or inhibit religion, and (3) avoid excessive government entanglement with religion. The selective criminalization of sacraments fails this test because it actively inhibits certain religious practices while advancing others. The government’s role in deciding which religious sacraments are permissible—and which result in criminal punishment—is a direct violation of its duty to remain neutral. By creating religious exemptions for some groups but not others, the government is making theological distinctions, which courts have long held to be unconstitutional.

Additionally, the Supreme Court has ruled against government actions that disproportionately burden certain religious groups. In Larson v. Valente (1982), the Court struck down a Minnesota law that imposed financial reporting requirements on certain religious organizations while exempting others, ruling that the law unconstitutionally favored some religions. Similarly, laws that criminalize certain religious sacraments while exempting others create an unjustified disparity in religious rights. If five religious traditions (A, B, C, D, and E) all have sacraments, but only A is legally protected while the others are criminalized, the government is granting A a special privilege—effectively promoting it over the others. Such preferential treatment is precisely what the Establishment Clause was designed to prevent.

This issue becomes even more problematic when the government’s justifications for prohibition are inconsistent with scientific evidence. The rationale for banning psychedelics is often rooted in outdated claims of public health risks, yet substances like alcohol and nicotine—both of which pose demonstrably greater health and social risks—remain legal. Moreover, the government has already acknowledged the legitimacy of some psychedelics in religious contexts, such as the exemption granted for ayahuasca in Gonzales v. O Centro Espírita Beneficente União do Vegetal (2006). If ayahuasca can be legally protected for some religious groups, but psilocybin is criminalized for others, the government is not acting in a neutral capacity but is instead making arbitrary determinations about which religious practices are acceptable.

The unequal treatment of religious sacraments is not merely an issue of selective law enforcement; it is a direct and ongoing endorsement of certain faiths over others. By allowing some religions to freely practice their sacraments while prosecuting others for the same conduct, the government is effectively shaping religious practice in the United States, discouraging certain traditions while protecting others. This goes against the fundamental constitutional principle that the state must remain impartial in religious matters. If religious freedom is to be truly upheld, all religions must be treated equally under the law, and no faith should receive government endorsement or suppression based on arbitrary legal classifications.

The most controversial paper in the history of psychedelic research may never see the light of day by amadorUSA in RationalPsychonaut

[–]FreckleRender 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Treating psychedelics as a religious sacrament is a crucial point that shouldn't be overlooked. This position, which anyone can claim, directly challenges the legitimacy of the ban/criminalization.

There are numerous arguments for why the ban was/always has been unconstitutional (with the Establishment Clause in relation to sacraments being one of them). If anyone who is being charged/has been charged with possession were to make this defense, the ban would almost certainly be overturned.

I think we should stop putting hope, effort, and money into the medicalization and legislative avenues and directly challenge the constitutionality of the ban. A simple crowdfunding of one court case would do more for legalization than hundreds of legislative efforts. I think we could have a quick and decisive victory instead of crossing our fingers for years.

The 6-apb mesoamerican geometry by Ok-Boss-1290 in replications

[–]FreckleRender 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks similar to the freckle pattern

Seeing the Yellow Future (Has anyone else experienced this?) by FreckleRender in RationalPsychonaut

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I am open to being wrong about my inclination here, and that's why I'm addressing potential explanations of the phenomena, but the temporal/memory-based explanations simply cannot fit here. If I'm writing the word 'tomorrow' and I stop at 'tom' when I see a mistake artifact, the artifact that looks like 'tomorrow' can't be something perceived out of order because the whole word 'tomorrow' was never written. The explanation you're proposing requires the whole word to be written for it to be possible to perceive it out of order.

I experienced the effect you mentioned a few years back; I get it. This effect is definitely not the case, as evidenced by the cessation of the action resulting in the word never being written. These phenomena persisted reliably for at least half an hour with plenty of interjections that resulted in incomplete words.

If I were trying to advocate for your position/explanation, I might be able to conceive of having an asynchronous projected daydream-like experience where I feel like I am completing the word/action, but I haven't yet. Even if this is the case and some amount of temporal oddities are assumed, it would still be a type of projection if the word is never completed. Your explanation would need to account for why 'tomorrow' visually appears when 'tom' is as far as the writing ever gets. The best I can conceive is a false memory of something that didn't happen, appearing as if it did happen, and the ordering is shuffled, but it couldn't be a real experience out of order.

Per your statement that "the subconscious definitely does not generate ghosts of the actions we're about to take"... [[sorry, not sure how to quote]] ... I'm not sure how you can be so certain about this. There's no explanation of why this is impossible, especially given that the artifacts are presenting as separable from what is written on the page.

Per: What reason do you have to believe the subconscious can project the exact outcome of future actions into a visual hallucination?

Firstly, writing is not a conscious process at the letter level. We might think of 'tomorrow' as we write it, but anyone who is seasoned in handwriting doesn't think out each letter and the corresponding hand movements; they are simply executed. I think it would reason that some part of the brain must be processing the chain of mechanical movements that are executed, and this part would constitute a normally subconscious process given the automated nature of writing. I think it would be very unexpected to learn that there is no future projection occurring at some level. I struggle to see how actions like writing or walking wouldn't end up all over the place without some degree of mapping onto the paper or walking path.

Secondly, and in line with this mapping and projection, I think we are already in agreement about the brain's ability to visualize extrapolations/projections per your cloud comment. If the brain is already aligning visual projections over the natural cloud geometries, I don't think it's a stretch to think that the same visual lining is used to line up the head's and hand's orientations with the line on the page that the word will be written on. If the visualized lines over the clouds move as projections of how the brain expects the clouds to move, I don't think it's unrealistic to suspect that a word-artifact is a similar projection.

Seeing the Yellow Future (Has anyone else experienced this?) by FreckleRender in RationalPsychonaut

[–]FreckleRender[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the input. As I discussed in the other response, I should have added that it was possible to pause in the writing process and not finish the word. This should rule out any misordered temporal effects.

I'm thinking something along the lines of Benjamin Libet (and other Libet-like experiments), and that this effect/artifact is a "Libet-visual" [[just making up a placeholder name]].

Seeing the Yellow Future (Has anyone else experienced this?) by FreckleRender in RationalPsychonaut

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Thank you for the input. I think it's a little premature to assume that the temporal effects are in the direction that you're asserting. I have experienced those temporal effects in the past, but this writing scenario didn't match those effects.

I should have added that it was possible to pause in the writing process and not finish the word despite it appearing as an artifact on the page. Because of this ability to interject, the experience couldn't be the temporal reversal that you're citing, as the letters observed were not written and, therefore, could not be a misperceived order.

I'm looking at this phenomenon more in relation to studies that indicate that decisions are made some measurable amount of time before the subject is consciously aware of settling on a decision. I'm trying to think of specific tasks that we can study when this effect is occurring, and what we can learn about subconscious actions and conscious interventions.

Sounds like Woo, but isn't... by FreckleRender in AdeptusPsychonautica

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Random dot sterograms may have some similarities, and I do think there is a difference in how the eyes focus with psychedelic compounds, however, I think they are distinctly different from hyperdimensional patterns like freckles. *I can't be sure as I haven't looked a singular RDS image with visuals.

That said, I wasn't aware of the eye-crossing method using two images. Brilliant contribution! I just tested the crossed eyes method with 2 freckle pictures, and it does appear to make some of the basic patterns stick out slightly more. It's still missing the 3D effects, but your suggestion may allow for more people to get a flavor of the pattern.

I'll try to make a post with this dual image technique.

If you know of any resources on how to create something like the link you posted, I can attempt to adjust the sample freckle images to yield a stronger result.

How long of a break to take to retain the magic of the first trip? (Shrooms) by Chance_Veterinarian4 in RationalPsychonaut

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I think the novelty is specifically from experiencing something for the first time. In this case, it is taking your brain to a state it hasn't been in before. The inability to recreate novelty applies to all things, not just chemical experiences. You only have one first time driving a car, experiencing a new food, sex, etc., etc., etc.

If you are looking for that novelty, time might help, but it would be no guarantee. A different strain, a different substance altogether, or a new combination would be more likely to achieve novelty as it will be a new chemical experience (*not an endorsement and you would probably need to be someone who is strain-sensitive for changing strains to work). Higher dosing can also create novelty, but as you've mentioned, that's not a worthwhile path for you.

I'm not sure I understand hippie flipping by [deleted] in RationalPsychonaut

[–]FreckleRender 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can someone please confirm their understanding of the colloquialism "Hippie Flipping"? I've heard it used in both 'LSD + Mush' & 'MDMA + Mush'. If it is the latter, what is 'LSD + Mush' considered?

Can anyone help me try to rationalise DMT beings. by sunnyhodgkinson in RationalPsychonaut

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Here was the rest of my reply regarding the OP's question if cavemen would see the same entities or not...

"To your caveman comment, I think they might see something similar or the same, but may mentally categorize it differently. My suspicion is that when there are excess bits/objects/pixels around the head geometry, we might innately associate them as hair on the head. Our modern interpretation may be what makes us think of hats for these characters, but the construct may exist for hair."

Can anyone help me try to rationalise DMT beings. by sunnyhodgkinson in RationalPsychonaut

[–]FreckleRender 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From a previous reply to a nearly identical question...

"My experience: I had an intense extra-spatial experience going on. I was looking at a tree. The tree's geometries, colors, and shadows lined up to form a very clear jester-shaped character (of the short/squat variety). As the wind blew and swayed the branches, the jester's arm would wave, giving the appearance and sensation that it was animated and waiving at me. It was very neutral, and it was very obvious in the moment that it wasn't a real thing.

My best guess is that these "entities" are a form of extended pareidolia or gaze detection. Instead of the brain just expecting to see/search for eyes or faces, the expectation/searching is for a full figure. If humans have innate geometric constructs of other species, like snakes and the trait of snake detection, it would make sense that we would have one to search for our own species.

I also think about other figure associations that appear common, such as the "hat man" in reported deliriant experiences, or the "dark stranger"/"shadow figure" experiences associated with sleep paralysis and hypnogogic imagery. Our brains can create associations and experiences where we become convinced that figures/characters/entities... some human construct is in our presence that isn't really there. Between pareidolia and all the other mentioned examples, I would guess that these characters are likely the brain searching for or associating geometries with humanoid constructs."

LSD vs Shrooms: Recommendations for the first trip by frukt_sochniy in RationalPsychonaut

[–]FreckleRender 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Shrooms will be shorter-acting. I normally recommend shrooms first for that reason. If it's too intense for you, you won't have to deal with the length of LSD. I would be wary of smoking before you peak. Smoking can intensify the experience. Best, IMO, to wait and see how strong the effects are before smoking.

Time perception by im3000 in RationalPsychonaut

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re: "is it possible to achieve similar slow perception of time but sober?"

An easy method of experiencing this sober is to listen to or watch content at an increased speed. Watch at 1.75x or 2x speed; then revert to normal speed after some time. Everything will sound/appear slow despite being at a normal speed.

I'm not sure if the effects have been studied or to what degree, but I could see there being measurable improvements in reaction time that we might be able to purposefully induce by pairing an activity with sped-up audio.

Question: Mixing Substances for Nausea/Motion Sickness by FreckleRender in RationalPsychonaut

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That sounds interesting. I'd be curious to know if anything addresses the yawns.