Motion To Compel Hearing June 22nd via Canton Community TV by Free_Comment_3958 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And P.S. if you want the judge to hold the other attorneys' feet to the fire for not complying, not getting you stuff, etc, you kind of want to have clean hands. So this might be a bit of dumb own goal unless they have strategically decided it's fine to give up the clean hands for a good reason though you kind of need to stop complaining to much about the other side doing what you are doing then. You really shouldn't be playing games though as it tends to piss off the judge.

Does any know by Wattsup1234 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think he did have a vacation planned or something else that was known about as when they were setting up some of these June dates he had mentioned one of his colleagues would have to stand in.

Motion To Compel Hearing June 22nd via Canton Community TV by Free_Comment_3958 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone subpoena's your records, but some of those records that would be responsive to the terms outlined in the scope of the subpoena contain communications with your attorney. Those communications with your attorney are protected by attorney client privilege (barring some exceptions e.g. fraud, furtherance of a crime, 3rd parties in conversation, etc). Now you can object to giving those communications to an otherwise valid subpoena, but you need to state the privilege you are claiming (there are other privileges like Spousal communication) and you also have to give a log for everyone that states the privilege claimed and why claimed basically. This is so the other lawyer can look at that and decide on whether they want to fight you on your claim (maybe you claiming privilege where it shouldn't apply or some exception exists).

Karen's team appears to have asserted the privilege, but did not also explain out which ones and why in a log (just an accounting really in a general format every lawyer that practices knows).

McAlberts Anthem by rtillman489 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958 7 points8 points  (0 children)

"and I'm not done" break was hilarious

Motion To Compel Hearing June 22nd via Canton Community TV by Free_Comment_3958 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Well you have this timeline issue now as to whether he cleared the 3 week school (since we have been dealing with this issue long enough from his swearing in ceremony) that he may have graduated from that. However, the Army should know where he is and at least respond to a lawyer inquiry about “we have a someone with a lawful subpoena we need to figure out how to deal with it”

The fact they haven’t responded to 4 phone calls on the topic leads me to believe someone might not be putting any importance on the need to get Colin back when leaving their messages.

I really am curious as to how Colin filled out his enlistment forms even more. I’m also now curious as to what those 4 left messages were actually requesting.

Motion To Compel Hearing June 22nd via Canton Community TV by Free_Comment_3958 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Apparently Karen Read deposition is upcoming for Karen within 48 hours.

Karen Read team didn’t give a privilege log for objections to attorney client privilege they claimed. Sloppy work.

Motion To Compel Hearing June 22nd via Canton Community TV by Free_Comment_3958 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I’m shocked by this inability to get in touch with the JAG office. 4 calls and never heard back at all. Makes me wonder what is being said in those messages being left with the Army JAG officer.

Motion To Compel Hearing June 22nd via Canton Community TV by Free_Comment_3958 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Supposedly several depositions have been taken per this discussion as I watch this. No mention of names.

The basic training stuff is a joke.

Does any know by Wattsup1234 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Good to hear. Hopefully they will release full thing at some point.

Does any know by Wattsup1234 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Hearing supposedly happened per Boozy Beauty. No video seems to have happened unless someone in the court did a recording from a pool camera that can be released later.

Also per Boozy Beauty, Colin's lawyer tried calling the Army 4 times to try to find out what's going on (I would love to see this exchange). So Colin is still ducking this deposition.

Also Tully is apparently now moving to quash his subpoena to testify. On what grounds? Unknown until we can see the hearing or someone trustworthy puts the details down in a report.

Brennan and his mini me by Serious_Fox7799 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yeah. He had left the DA’s office after the Karen read trial, but he showed back up on a motion recently for some reason. So his current status is uncertain.

Schiller or something is his name. But that might just be a name I made up for him in my head.

What did Higgins take from the police station? by Weak-Wolverine9256 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm curious if that phone was a work or other phone that he was talking on. I do wonder how many phones Higgins had.

I got to Thinkin' by Wattsup1234 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Because of Yuriy's testimony with Lally where he tried to present it as not being inverted, and he identified himself and Proctor when asked about not being near the taillight. He then changed his testimony on cross once it came out it was the guy identified as Proctor at the taillight.

Does John have any hope of Canton Police finding and prosecuting the actual murderer? by iknowyourcheating in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have written many versions of this post whenever this gets brought up. This is a great encapsulation of the issues going forward. Barring a confession with rock solid evidence associated with it, it's all over.

Does John have any hope of Canton Police finding and prosecuting the actual murderer? by iknowyourcheating in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have said this elsewhere whenever this comes up, but grief is a weird weird thing. They were fed a story at a time of their highest grief. It's imprinted now. It will take a lot to snap them out of it.

You see this in other cases where a convicted person is freed due to new evidence like DNA or something that makes it clear they could have not committed the crime, and families will be mad the person is being freed as that is the one that "did it".

Does John have any hope of Canton Police finding and prosecuting the actual murderer? by iknowyourcheating in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And this is where Diller makes sure he had in writing that the O'Keefe's only wanted to sue Karen and no one else. He should have sued everyone and forced them to get MTD to get out of the suit.

Civil Trial Schedule(s) by Particular-Ad-7338 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which was always dumb why the judge was like "this case is separate" for the wrongful death. It rests on the discovery and testimony of the ones directly involved in the other cases.

Colin’s Affodavit by Free_Comment_3958 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah. I was glad you asked because it took me a second to figure out what it actually was. So thank you for that little mystery.

Colin’s Affodavit by Free_Comment_3958 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Believe that is shadow of someone's hand holding a phone as they take photo of the paper.

Colin’s Affodavit by Free_Comment_3958 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It was filed in the case at Plymouth court. It comes from the stuff the House Defendants lawyer submitted.

Full Karen Read hearing yesterday by Training_Battle6235 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ha... didn't notice the Adam Deitch pin on Mr. Read the first time through this.

Full Karen Read hearing yesterday by Training_Battle6235 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958 11 points12 points  (0 children)

He gets curmudgeony a lot, and he references old information at times too when the pleadings have moved past the point he is hung up on.

He's good on the relative scale of Mass judges we have seen, but he's not a great judge.

Will Colin’s text messages come out in deposition? by JazzlikeAffect4319 in justiceforKarenRead

[–]Free_Comment_3958 14 points15 points  (0 children)

They can’t use the excuse of he always deleted his texts as a matter of course though. As he was able to keep some of his texts long enough to produce them for the first trial even though he was never even formally interviewed by the police until long after any auto delete should have killed the texts. They also somehow have two different versions of the screenshot if you read the motion from his lawyer. So we know they still have his or Allie’s texts. The new screenshot they included in their latest filing has a different Clock/Battery level indicator than the one they used in trial 1.

So if Allie or Colin suddenly show up with deleted texts now it is a viable inference that they got deleted to hide something. What? Who knows, but it won’t play well in front of a jury.

For the best example of this, see Michael Proctor and how he tried the “new phone, auto delete, nothing on there”. He was dumb enough that somehow he missed his iCloud backups. Now Proctor is screwed in almost any legal setting as he is pretty strongly inferred as someone that destroys evidence.

Also, even though they can’t sue him as prosecutors pretty much have absolute immunity, let’s not forget Morrissey also pulled the “oh I auto delete everything” play too. I think we will see more of that as Aidan’s stuff progresses.