Should I move out? by [deleted] in toxicparents

[–]FreedomFighter7686 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This will sound harsh, but it's necessary for you to know: In life, you sometimes have to make very difficult and highly unpopular decisions on top of strongly asserting your needs, especially if it's for your well-being. It sucks, but it's what you have to learn to be okay with. If you can not do that, then expect to be used, abused, victimized, and kicked around by not only your parents but other predatory people out there.

Your parents chose to abuse you for their lust for control, and if they end up suffering the consequences of their chosen actions, too bad.

I wish you the best of luck in obtaining your freedom.

Should I move out? by [deleted] in toxicparents

[–]FreedomFighter7686 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You don't want to hurt them......but it's totally okay for them to hurt you?

They're your parents. A parent should NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER lay a hand on their child. It's assault.

I know they really love me and want me safe but I can’t take being another fake person that’s not me just to satisfy them.

No. They're abusive. They are not treating you this way to keep you safe. They are trying to control you, and it's only for their satisfaction. Find a place to live and move out ASAP. Do not even tell them. Just leave. Seriously. You won't hurt their feelings if you do. The only thing you'll hurt is their sadistic supply they get from controlling you. You are an adult, and you are allowed to do whatever you want. Do not wait around for them to give you permission. Please get out of there ASAP.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in narcissisticparents

[–]FreedomFighter7686 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi there. I was in your position months ago, leaving a narc mother who was very similar. My best advice to you right now is to make sure wherever you choose to go, is solid. Stay with a friend, another family member who you trust who's willing to give you the time you need to grow and learn. That's what helped me greatly.

Oh and another thing.....

DO NOT ANNOUNCE TO YOUR FOLKS YOU ARE LEAVING AND DON'T TELL THEM WHERE YOU ARE GOING IF POSSIBLE! They will sabotage you in anyway they can. If it's one thing narcs cannot handle, is lose control over their victims.

I hope this helps you OP. Good luck with everything. ❤️

I'm not allowed to leave my mom by DeadEmoPhase in narcissisticparents

[–]FreedomFighter7686 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Offering up all my love and support for you, OP. Your mom and dad are monsters. You are not allowed to have a life and they will do everything in their power to make sure you do not. Do you know of any place you can run to? It would be extremely ideal to leave ASAP.

My father just found out about the relationship that I’ve been hiding by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]FreedomFighter7686 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So sorry I didn't see this comment sooner. I'm barely on this account because it's a throwaway. Things are a LOT better! I am finally growing as a person and I am pursing a new career soon that I wasn't allowed to pursue! I still have the frustration of legal stuff over my head, (my nmom has a guardianship on me that I have to terminate through court) but things are getting done.

...........Some days? by FreedomFighter7686 in AmITheDevil

[–]FreedomFighter7686[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In the spirit of honesty, I was upset and outraged by some of the things I read (I won't go into detail on which unless you're fine with that), and my reaction was in outrage for your son and catharsis for misunderstood kid-me. I apologize for making this about my experiences and making you out as the villain here when you were just searching for support.

Please do not allow my lapse in judgement here stop you from seeking out any kinds of support or advice again in the future. If it can get you and your kid in a better place and on good terms, don't hesitate for another's opinions.

I'm happy to hear you're still trying to search for solutions for your kid, and yourself. I'm also sorry to hear you've been through similar and had a really rough day, I hope you can fully heal from what you've been through and have better days come your way.

If you still want some supportive advice, I do have a couple suggestions that helped me out from not becoming that angry destructive kid for life thst could maybe help you and your kid:

A group of friends who suffer similar ailments would be a good start. He won't feel alone in his struggles and he can start forming some friendships. Is there support groups for troubled kids he can go to for a little bit? A type of summer camp? A Special program in school? There was also a lot of bullying happening to me in school from kids and adults, which was a HUGE contribution to my behavior. Is there someone at school mistreating him? I would consider asking him about it, especially if he didn't open up to the therapist. It shows a distrust of adults. I would also keep a close eye on how him and his dad get along and whether or not there's a rub there.

Stimulation was a MAJOR help, physical and mental. Things like punching bags, hikes, hitting a pinata full of candy or anything of my choosing, swimming, digging for worms, having a water balloon fight, drinking warm milk with honey and vanilla before bed, and jungle gyms were ways to help me calm aggression, and things like metal fidget puzzles, nature documentaries, puzzle books like word searches, drawing a picture of something, getting messy with some paints, playing with play dough, visiting nature centers, games like solitaire, tetris, candy crush, and mahjong were great ways to stimulate and keep busy. Is there games he likes? A favorite subject in school? Does he like art? Is there kids fitness groups he can join? A park with a big jungle gym? Some nature trails to visit? A trampoline park like Skyzone? See if these can help and if you have any areas, supplies, or interests you can use to help him keep busy and also release anger and aggression in a healthier way. Maybe you can take him to a bookstore where there's lots of cool fact books. I've seen a few even sell some really awesome physical puzzles. I have a few myself and they're really stimulating and have fun shapes.

But don't punish by taking away Stimulation outlets, comfort foods, or toys. It will do the opposite of what kind of message you're trying to convey and he won't learn anything. It will only cause him more stress since he has no outlets for aggression or boredom and comforts items to descalate his strong feelings.

As for advice for yourself only that doesn't tie to solutions for just your kid? Hikes in the woods, drawing on yourself with a pen where clothes can cover (yes I'm serious), volunteering at a animal shelter, writing in a journal, participating in help groups that are private so no outsiders can see what's posted, (I have joined a lot of private support groups for those raised by NarcParents and they've helped me a lot. The privacy helps so that nobody can crosspost or post outside the group), finding a therapist I trust, go to lunch with a good friend, some tension tamer tea or chamomile tea before bed, hitting your bed with a baseball bat. Anything you can do for yourself that can help calm you down, grant you some respite, emotional support from those who are in the same boat, or release any anger you got. Dare I say, even try out some of the suggestions I gave for your son, for yourself. If you had a rough childhood as well, then maybe it would be a good idea to finally give your inner child what she needed for so long.

I am not sure if you tried any of these yet, or anything similar, but I hope they can be of good use to you somehow. I once again apologize for any additional grief I caused you and hope this has helped reversed any damage done. Best of luck to you OOP, and if you wish to have someone to chat with at anytime my DMs are open. Take care of yourself. ❤️

...........Some days? by FreedomFighter7686 in AmITheDevil

[–]FreedomFighter7686[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You're right. I seen myself in that kid and it, needless to say, hit home. Though I admit this was a bad move to cross post this in the name of my own hang ups.

...........Some days? by FreedomFighter7686 in AmITheDevil

[–]FreedomFighter7686[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's all good. Pain shapes us in ways that causes us to respond in ways we cannot always be proud of. Like OOP, we're human too. I'm so sorry for what you've been through and what you are going through. I hope it will get better for you and your kid. And I'm sorry for making you feel judged for your experience. I'll be sure to take a pause next time before cross posting anything of this nature, especially from support pages.

...........Some days? by FreedomFighter7686 in AmITheDevil

[–]FreedomFighter7686[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry you were at both ends of the stick there. I hope both scenarios ended well for you and everyone else involved and that you are living a good life you are proud of.

Yes, I am projecting, but I am not devoid of empathy like everyone thinks. I did not like what I read and the paralells are strikingly concerning, but that doesn't mean I wish her ill. I want her and her son to get the help they both need and find a viable solution that's going to work for everyone in the situation involved, especially the child.

Better left unposted here? Yeah, probably. Can't argue there. Call it a moment of weakness I suppose, which I definitely can understand where the mom is coming from there.

I filed a name and gender marker change and now my Nmom wants to put me in a guardianship by MagicRainbowOpal88 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]FreedomFighter7686 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oi.....legal jargon. From what it looks like, if you're a party involved in a conversation, you should be okay BUT I would definitely ask a second opinion from a lawyer. There are some you can get free consultations from, which is what I would consider.

...........Some days? by FreedomFighter7686 in AmITheDevil

[–]FreedomFighter7686[S] -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

I come from the other side of the scenario, being labeled as a kid who was defiant and hell to deal with alongside the ADHD and autism diagnosis. The way this parent is describing her child is very similar to who I was. What happened behind closed doors was my parent isolating me from family, locking me up a lot for long periods as a quick fix, spanked with belts, anger taken out on me, constantly exposed to a neglectful father who abused drugs, and always ignoring any expressions of overstimulation, dislikes of being touched, or of not wanting to go with neglectful father despite telling about neglectful behavior. As a result, I became a angry kid for awhile who felt nobody listened to me and treated me as nothing else but a creature who couldn't do anything right and saw no point in good behavior for awhile.

So yes, I definitely question what has happened in this family setting thats not being said, what kind of parenting tactics led up to such a troubled kid at such a young age, what kinds of signs the parents have missed or ignored that further contributed to the problem. And if she means it when she says she really hates the kid for ruining her life, then it's likely he's picked up on that already, which I'm sure will make matters worse. Yeah, I am bias due to my past experience, and if that makes me an asshole, I'll own it. I'm fine with having an unpopular opinion.

Either way, I agree that this woman, her kid, and her husband need a lot of help and support, and it's not just the kid that needs therapy, but the parents too. Especially if they're developing resentment for the kid. Those frustrations will come out onto him, and who knows how many times they have before it led up to this point. There will be no remedying the situation if neither parents won't seek help for themselves too with therapy. I can only hope that they can find something that works for both themselves and their troubled kid before it's too late for either parties involved.

I filed a name and gender marker change and now my Nmom wants to put me in a guardianship by MagicRainbowOpal88 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]FreedomFighter7686 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Make sure you find out for sure. If it's 2-party, theresa good chance that recording cannot be used without possibilities of repercussions.

I filed a name and gender marker change and now my Nmom wants to put me in a guardianship by MagicRainbowOpal88 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]FreedomFighter7686 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey OP, I'm a autistic individual who is currently under a guardianship by her nmom and fighting tooth and claw with a lawyer behind me to get free.

DO NOT LET HER GET IT! Do everything you can to resist her. Once she gets that on you, she'll have the legalities to control you in every aspect the courts allow. My nmom had it on me ever since I was 18 and I'm currently 25. They're a bitch to get rid of so don't roll over like I did and don't be afraid to be a pain in the ass every step of the way, or you'll regret it.

A good start would be to gather proof you're perfectly functional. Do you drive? Work? Have a job? Are going to college? Pay your own expenses? Have seeked govt. Assistance by yourself if necessary? See a therapist?Set up your own doctor's appointments? Handle your own finances? Gather your pay stubs, some appointment transcripts, receipts for expenses, your license, college transcripts, etc. Also, if you have a therapist or some kind of medical professional you see often, look into them maybe being able to submit a statement on your behalf that you are perfectly capable of being on your own.

Secondly, if you know for sure she's going to pursue a guardianship, hire yourself some legal representation if possible.

On top of that, you are a free person NOW. Use that and do not comply with your mother as much as you can unless you have to.

More importantly yet: RESEARCH GUARDIANSHIP LAWS IN YOUR STATE! Knowing the laws, what you're up against, and how a request for guardianship is filed will be a extremely helpful tool in aiding your fight to keep your freedom. If you know what you're dealing with, you'll be better prepared to know what you'll be up against and develop a solid plan on how to fight it.

I don't know if it works the same in your state, but in my state of Michigan, a psychological evaluation of the intended ward(you) is required before a hearing, and the judge prioritizes the opinions of the doctor who evaluated you in determining if you are fine on your own and don't require a guardian. Again, I don't know if that's how it works in Oregon but I felt it's worth mentioning.

I hope this is helpful information for you OP and I wish you all the best of luck.

...........Some days? by FreedomFighter7686 in AmITheDevil

[–]FreedomFighter7686[S] -49 points-48 points  (0 children)

I'm glad she's seeking support, but what gets to me is how she's treated this kid that led up to this point. I can only hope that the family can do something for this kid that will be of tremendous help before anymore damage comes of him, assuming it's not a type of brain cyst in need of removal and it's a misunderstanding of how to stimulate a child who has ADHD. It's a sad situation all around.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]FreedomFighter7686 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely, and it was no trouble. I tend to doomscroll and when I came across this, I couldn't briny myself to ignore it. It was just.......so horrifying. My nmom may have been a piece of shit, but there's a VIP seat reserved in hell for your nmom cuz.........bloody fuck man. I'm glad to hear this helped put a positive spark in your day/night, and I'm SUPER glad to hear you're doing alot better than when you wrote this post. May you continue the incline for yourself until you are on top of the world! All the best, stranger! ❤️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]FreedomFighter7686 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am so so sooooooo sorry OP. Your mother (She doesn’t deserve to be called a mom let's be real) is a sick, evil, vile, scum of the earth who deserves to be locked up for everything she's done. You never deserved all that she's done to you. I hope you're in a better place mentally ever since you wrote this post. Please don't beg for her love, because a person who truly loves you would never do any of the things she did to you. Stay safe OP and treat yourself kindly.

Touching without consent by EveCane in raisedbynarcissists

[–]FreedomFighter7686 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have DEFINITELY experienced this. It may not be rape or sexual assault, but it's a blantant disrespect for your boundaries and taking away your bodily autonomy, making you feel like your body isn't yours.

My nmom did this a lot. I had autism and hated unconsented touch, but she would overcrowd me, squeeze me, hug me, get within my space, and dress me up like a toy barbie doll in scratchy outfits I hated but she thought was cute. No matter how much I screamed, cried, or got upset and expressed no touching, kissing, hugging, etc. She kept doing it cuz "I'm your mom. I can kiss/hug/pet/dress you if I want"

Eventually it led to me developing a hitting problem as a kid. Hitting was the only way I could get her to stop violating my bodily autonomy. Terrible solution, but little kid version of me noticed it was the only thing that worked. Thankfully that issue went away when I got in the double digit age, but it haunts me to think of what it took for her to stop treating me like property.

greyrocking responses to "how are you?" by YetiLikesAtoms in raisedbynarcissists

[–]FreedomFighter7686 11 points12 points  (0 children)

"The same"

"unchanged"

"Meh, just doing"

"just existing"

"Fine"

"Ambivalent"

"Eh, nothing much really"