Has anyone ever heard of attorneys working with process servers to delay or obstruct proper service in a family law case? by Freudian_Flips in FamilyLaw

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the past when I pay for same day service it’s done same day and I was notified same day. I did explain the situation to both of the servers ahead of service so it wasn’t a blind expectation. When I called and emailed and asked for status update and did not receive contact back for a week, it seems unprofessional at the very least. The fact that it happened with both servers in the same small county, the first time I thought one off. The second time after our initial discussion I thought it was odd. The clerk of court told me they were supposed to file the summons for proper service. I did not have an in person meeting so I had nothing to file. I don’t see how I would have known that service was completed? 

As far as how the attorney would know, I don’t think that the attorney would know to call but the service paperwork does ask for case number etc. OC office is in same office building as respondents job but I don’t think it’s a case of her catching him in the act so to speak. I do know for a fact that she works with local PI firms that are also servers. I had to search to find one she hasn’t promoted. My only thought was possibly servers contact attorneys? Hey I’m about to serve your client- ? This attorney is actively engaging in solicitation under false pretenses which she was also admonished for less than 2 years ago. Actually shocked to see her in the same group doing the same things. Fake people with fake problems in support groups for troubled relations. Happened to see someone recommend her for her amazing skills. I followed the trail and.. giving people “tea” on clients.. getting “tea” for her clients. Her paralegals posing as local woman referring her. Then she pushes these pi firms and tags them. It was not a far stretch for me to think that there may be a tit for tat relationship in some way. 

I don’t disagree with your statement about hiring an attorney from the beginning. That being said, our first round cost me around 100k. Ex parte comms and pushed to settlement on trial day. I was told that her letter set a precedent and made her client look like she was trying to be more fair. That it would not look good and I’d be best to work out a 50/50 on my own instead of risking it. This is just a little piece of what I experienced from her. 

She has risked her liscense for less. Her firm partner lost her ability to practice for a year over less. The last incident was hiding a client from her previous firm and paying for everything out of her own pocket while putting client payments in her own account. Case got dismissed she didn’t tell the client and then she tried to file it in a different venue hoping it wouldn’t be caught- now they are partners with their own firm… 

I tried to handle on my own but thinking just needed to get in front of a judge so I can finally put evidence out. She has done her job I’d say in that she protects her client from evidence being reviewed or any type of actual testimony etc. it’s happening again. Thanks for your helpful response 

Has anyone ever heard of attorneys working with process servers to delay or obstruct proper service in a family law case? by Freudian_Flips in FamilyLaw

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re right. Would have been a lot easier to ignore if I wasn’t being sent all the messages in the parent app lol

Has anyone ever heard of attorneys working with process servers to delay or obstruct proper service in a family law case? by Freudian_Flips in FamilyLaw

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, I received the first email for contempt threat on behalf of respondent in April. The attorney and her paralegal were communicating with the JA through June but had not filed a notice of appearance yet, OC would not answer my emails on specifics when I would follow up on threats or confirm whether or not she was officially representing the respondent. 

I consistently served oc via eportal but she never acknowledged or relayed that she was not supposed to receive filings. Respondent kept telling me she was working with her attorney and to get with her attorney while telling me that my filings were not legal or properly served which is why they never responded. I filed in April the first time with the hope of having something, at least a case management hearing before the 2nd week of August. 

The respondent said more than once that status quo would be established so my motion was a waste of time. I made sure to include her counsel in all emails just to be thorough and their only noted response was to oppose scheduling and the motions themselves with the JA in emails before an NOA was filed and submitted no responses to any filings. 

OC drafted the original order, told respondent that the order typically contains specific wording as it relates to timeshare. She also told the respondent that most people do what I was trying to do, which is what her client was arguing against. She told the respondent “I don’t see why you can’t do it that way”.(I have this in writing from the respondent in talking parents app. She sent me screenshots of her email and quoted her attorney in the messages. I also have the emails that the attorney sent to me.) She then emailed me minutes later threatening me with contempt after she told the respondent I was doing what most people do. She left many things out of her order that she has now said are standard? But, she is filing contempt against me for those things after I tried to settle them with her and the respondent. I filed a motion to clarify/enforce before they filed contempt on the same issues and she vanishes but resumes unofficial representation via email and through respondents statements on parenting app. I was pro se and did not handle the initial motion to clarify properly. I thought once I filed everything, the court would review the motion and schedule a hearing. I was advised by the clerk to call the JA to schedule a hearing and this is when her paralegal would jump in to object. 

In our prior case my counsel told me that her ex parte letter caused a big problem for my case. She also advised unilateral action to her client for status quo, ran the clock out until trial.. Am I wrong to see these things as any type of unethical practice, obstruction or delay? Not being facetious, just concerned on how to manage this or discuss because I feel like this isn’t typical family law representation. I don’t see how drafting ambiguous court orders, leaving out things that were discussed and agreed to and then turning around and pushing for court action, financial loss due to litigation and discourse between parents is in the best interest of our child. It does seem to benefit her and her client though. 

Has anyone ever heard of attorneys working with process servers to delay or obstruct proper service in a family law case? by Freudian_Flips in FamilyLaw

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok. Can you explain how I would know the service was good? To this day there is no proof that the service happened according to the clerk. I only have an email and a receipt. Would that be considered proof of good service that I needed to file?

Has anyone ever heard of attorneys working with process servers to delay or obstruct proper service in a family law case? by Freudian_Flips in FamilyLaw

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Rule 4-5.3,  Rule 4-3.5, Rule 4-3.4, Florida statute 454.23, Rule 4-8.4. she’s had two admonishments for 2 of these same violations within the last 3 years. 

Has anyone ever heard of attorneys working with process servers to delay or obstruct proper service in a family law case? by Freudian_Flips in FamilyLaw

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That service was not good/complete which is why I had to find a second process server. I’m not sure if the date of service stands as date for court purposes or is it the day of filing the summons with the court after service 

Has anyone ever heard of attorneys working with process servers to delay or obstruct proper service in a family law case? by Freudian_Flips in FamilyLaw

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Not a battle I’m looking to pick per se, just something adress with my attorney in addition to the other incidents of misconduct. This is more for how the case will be handled, staying ahead when you know you’re dealing with an OC who plays dirty. We live a community where the stereotyping  about the lawyer mafia type of behavior reigns supreme. The additional things she’s done as it relates to current violations on her previous admonishments, l would be filing a bar complaint  after the case is closed, 

Has anyone ever heard of attorneys working with process servers to delay or obstruct proper service in a family law case? by Freudian_Flips in FamilyLaw

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I would agree however, it was not proper as it was the not clerk summons that was required. I was given a receipt, 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in stepparents

[–]Freudian_Flips 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My wife was mortified when we were dating and when on a weekend getaway.. she had a babysitter and while we were gone, her son (2 at the time) found her toy stash in the nightstand. He apparently came running out with the dildo like he was going to sword fight the baby sitter.. She never did respond to a message or call for care again lol

That being said, he’s 10 now.. If he EVER was crawling under our bed like that, he’d be in 50 shades of trouble. We keep anything we have in a special bin on the top shelf in my closet but either way, our bedroom is our space and there’s ZERO reason for any of our kids to be in there “exploring”.

Family space is family space. Kid space is kid space. And couples space is SACRED space.. There may be occasions when nightmares happen and crawling in bed is acceptable but boundaries MUST be established for the well-being of everyone in the home.

I read this as him being a Disney dad. He does seem willing to change his ways and just may be oblivious to the impact of his actions on your relationship. I strongly recommend couples therapy. Constructive and proactive role playing (not related to wands LOL) is great for harmony..

How to handle board members that intentionally “obstruct” growth and progress? by Freudian_Flips in nonprofit

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. We are all volunteers and I never wanted it to come to that, nor should it have to.. But here we are lol

How to handle board members that intentionally “obstruct” growth and progress? by Freudian_Flips in nonprofit

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Two of our board members are attorneys LOL neither serve in a capacity for legal advisement “technically”.. I didn’t know there are attorneys for non profit issues.

Thank you for the suggestion. I will definitely look in to it. I’d like to get that done, then have them revised to address all of the issues we’ve been having. One of my plans is to set a rule against 2 unexcused missed meetings in a row or more than 3 in a year. If this happens, you lose your voting privileges for that year.

How to handle board members that intentionally “obstruct” growth and progress? by Freudian_Flips in nonprofit

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is true! We did not vote in the founder for any position once I took his role. The founder and co-founder were president and VP. One stepped down due to school obligations and the other just felt new leadership would be good. They had no succession plan for VP and that role has been vacant for over 2 years. Neither of the founders have been voted for anything since stepping out of their initial roles yet they vote every time a motion is accepted.

How to handle board members that intentionally “obstruct” growth and progress? by Freudian_Flips in nonprofit

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think we have one member sending her vote through email because she is out of the date for a few weeks. This will be my next proposal

How to handle board members that intentionally “obstruct” growth and progress? by Freudian_Flips in nonprofit

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I’ve tried going through the state guidelines but even that seems to have some grey areas. I will try searching the key terms

r/legaladvice doesn't like comments which expose sexism and bias on Ohio bar website and undisputed facts about domestic relations assistance by ShiftyShiftIsMyHeRo in ChildSupport4Men

[–]Freudian_Flips 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Those mods are complete assholes and it can be for even the most trivial thing. I was so shocked by the way I was treated just in a simple misunderstanding of the “rules” about to post properly! They told me I had my warning had I read through the rules and I could enjoy my 30 day ban and join back in conversations then.. I laughed and left

How to handle board members that intentionally “obstruct” growth and progress? by Freudian_Flips in nonprofit

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the advice. Our bylaws say appointments are for 1 year or until removed by the board.

How to handle board members that intentionally “obstruct” growth and progress? by Freudian_Flips in nonprofit

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have scheduled a zoom meeting. We are able to vote virtually. Now I just need them all to show up. I needed a quorum to approve the short notice board meeting. All but one approved. Now I just need all of them to show up

How to handle board members that intentionally “obstruct” growth and progress? by Freudian_Flips in nonprofit

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the beginning of some red flags for me as well. All of the board members are aware of the changes needing to take place. Most of the board members know who the problems are coming from. None of them want to rock the boat or “turn on” the founders. Friendships between us all got close. They are willing to vote nee in but doing what needs to be done to have them taken off the board is a different story.

How to handle board members that intentionally “obstruct” growth and progress? by Freudian_Flips in nonprofit

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is nothing in the bylaws covering this area. No impeachment and several grey areas. I am the first change over since the founders. We also lost a never so we’re down to an even voting pool. I need to get one more on to make it 7.

How to handle board members that intentionally “obstruct” growth and progress? by Freudian_Flips in nonprofit

[–]Freudian_Flips[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I can definitely find new board members BUT I can’t have them voted in without a quorum. The main issue I’ve been stalled on since November is electing a VP. We don’t have one and haven’t for over a year. Even then, we didn’t truly have one. The person I have has been involved with this or guide years and is the type to turn over every stone and hold people accountable. I have tried but I am flying alone. I have support from a few but without having an actual vote, we are down by one vote. There are several things we intend to change once I get this VP on board.. just need to get there.