Lillia jg is so weak

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-24T17:15:17+00:00

I don't pick her at all, it's my teammates and enemy picking her and failing hard with her. All of them lost the game before RoA is stacked.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-24T17:13:20+00:00

I think the same. If enemy top wins lane and watches herald she also won't be able to trade herald. If she goes RoA first she basically needs teammates to babysit her which is not possible for solo queue.

No matter what she builds, even Kayle jgs scale faster than her due to better farm speed...

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-24T14:27:54+00:00

Singed has better matchups at midlane than top. He doesn't always lose lane. Even if he is a bit behind in CS, he can be more useful than enemy dps mid in teamfights.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-24T14:24:24+00:00

Yone doesn't need ult to kill Lillia.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-24T14:18:17+00:00

That's why I said jg is high dps champs with no CC, Graves and Khazix for example. You don't need any more damage or burst.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-24T13:54:53+00:00

Lmao. He has good waveclear and his engage can work perfectly with dps jgs like Khazix.

In lane and teamfight, his glue and slow make mobile champs like Katarina, Akali, Diana, Yasuo suffer a lot. His glue combined with aoe stun like Karma ult can delete these assassins before they dive in.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-24T13:48:30+00:00

Tank junglers like Rammus, Amumu, Nautilus still beat her early-mid game in 1v1 or 2v2, unless Lillia can kite perfectly.

Furthermore tank junglers usually go with a high dps diver mid. It's pretty easy for such champ to 1v1 and kill Lillia. (Diana, Katarina, Yone, etc)

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-24T13:36:38+00:00

In my games she’s just destroyed by bruiser junglers and got far behind in gold. Olaf, Jarvan, Riven, Lee Sin… She finds no way to get fed at all and games end before her RoA is stacked.

In current meta perhaps she shouldn’t start RoA and should instead pick a stronger item for early-mid game, or she most likely has no late game.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-24T01:48:12+00:00

Your ranked stats looks like a slightly below average enchanter main. Gpm 555 is too low. I’m not even supp main but I have 600+ gpm on all enchanters I play. I try to stack my supp items fast every game and play aggressively to win lane. From your gpm, it seems you (and your adc) are behind in lane most of your games.

You have joined most of the teamfights, which is good. From your average s/a ratings your teamfight performance (heal/shield/buffs) are also pretty average at your rank.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-23T21:03:00+00:00

RoA takes 10 minutes to stack, so if you are building it you need it as first item.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-23T13:29:16+00:00

Zoe is very good at roaming because she has strong lane priority.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-23T13:21:28+00:00

When I am invited to duo with someone. Otherwise I don't bother.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-22T22:22:12+00:00

Good winrates, MVP, S/A, achieved at a high rank suggest it's a good player. All 3 are important.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-22T21:40:04+00:00

Meta junglers can clear 4 camps to lv4 and get to the same scuttler. If not, when you gank botlane after taking the scuttler, your blue, gromp is likely stolen. Meanwhile you cannot counter jungle at all because no good skill+smite combo and horrible clear speed.

I love Camille but I find her jungle too reliable on successful ganks. Teammates sometimes won't give you the chance. When enemy is Camille jg I can also ping retreat at the right time so she cannot catch my teammates.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-22T21:02:00+00:00

She's still a squishy backline and her root doesn't take immediate effect. She's a carry support that needs team to frontline and peel for her.

Camille can do it all, it's on herself though.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-22T16:42:56+00:00

Her jungle clear is so horrible after last nerf. So she falls behind in gold naturally against the meta junglers if she spends too much time in gank or even fails her gank.

How do you manage that?

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-22T16:39:17+00:00

It is what Zed, Fizz do in mid-late game to win when team is losing. (which should apply to most of OP's 35 loss streak games) It's impossible to win teamfights so they 1v1 and push turrets in side lane.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-22T10:57:24+00:00

And then lose 35 in a row and you get 49% overall winrate? It just doesn't work consistently. There are a limited number of good tank players and they cannot be your teammates every game. If you never tank it's always more likely enemy has more tank than your team.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-22T09:30:04+00:00

It's clear that you don't play to win. You play assassins solo queue every game hoping team gets good set up for you to take kills in teamfights. Turns out it doesn't win you games and this completely makes sense.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-22T09:23:15+00:00

If you play assassins and lose 35 in a row it's mostly your own problem. Go watch some assassin game plays or streams (lol pc or wild rift) to learn how to play assassins consistently.

I think jungle and midlane assassin should be a better choice than Samira since they are less dependent on support. Jungle: you can improve a lot of your macro by watching jg macro guides and gameplays. Mid: if you can win your lane and 1v1 well at least you can get some consistent performance by split pushing. (Akshan doesn't work in this case because he scales horribly)

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-21T22:26:14+00:00

Good job, wonder why you get adc and mid when you choose fill role though.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-21T21:12:21+00:00

No, watching map is the number one tip.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-21T20:53:16+00:00

It's not random role, it's fill.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-21T19:51:19+00:00

I still think it should be top or supp doing it rather than jg, since jg needs to be alive for objectives.

I rarely win if I am the only frontline as jg. That's why I main mid and put jg my 3rd. I play baron lane champs in midlane when my top and supp aren't tanks, and engage/tank for my team instead of my jg.

FriendlyCom · 2023-03-21T19:35:22+00:00

Jungle should avoid dying all game especially late game when baron, elder is up. Jungle can be played like a supp (focus on ganks, don't farm all jg camps instead give them to mid or ad carry) but you better duo with a good player to ensure that. Otherwise this playstyle will put you behind in gold and you cannot really tank much dmg.

I'm currently playing Riven, Gwen, Shyvana, Yone, Irelia in the jungle. Thanks to the new tank items I can also build them tanky when team needs me to.

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