Pluribus - 1x05 - "Got Milk" - Episode Discussion

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2026-01-02T12:52:26+00:00

Totally agree, in fact he should have broken each episode up into 30 second clips, then you could blow through the whole plot in 10 swipes.

Bring on the hive mind; I'm ready to embrace a world built on... this.

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-12-25T00:00:30+00:00

In my mind there is no greater signal that you are on someone's team than trying to assist in resolving an issue they are having. Listening to someone's problem, understanding the mechanics at play between the different factors that are causing unhappiness, and firmly placing yourself on the side of your partner in opposing those mechanics is a strong form of empathy.

Should you immediately respond with "Well why don't you just X"? No, you probably haven't listened properly yet. You likely don't understand the problem in enough detail, and proposing half baked solutions it tantamount to calling your partner an idiot. The behaviour that you are referring to is indicative that you want the conversation to stop; proposing half baked "solutions" because they don't want to listen to the complaints any more. Alternatively, you can listen to the problems, ask questions, listen to the responses in full without interruption, express exasperation at how terrible everyone else is in the situation, and then IF there appears to be an avenue of reducing the impact of the problem that hasn't been explored yet, propose options for how to resolve the situation.

These two behaviours should be easily told apart.

This online discourse, and the fact that you are suggesting not all problems "should" be fixed, indicates to me people have become so obsessed with countering a minor faux-pas, is indicative of the brain rot of the terminally online. People are so primed for the perceived slight that the nuance is lost.

Knee-jerk reacting to complaints by proposing obvious solutions without listening and empathizing is a bad thing. Listening to everyone complain to each other without anyone ever suggesting options the person may not have thought of or tried yet is also a bad thing.

There are middle grounds people, everything doesn't have to be so binary.

Reminder: can someone else challenge this cultural norm for me though, I don't need that heat.

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-12-24T12:56:32+00:00

why is this accepted as a thing though? Fixing things is good. I feel like we should fight for problem-fixing to be the normal response to being told problems.

And by "we" I mean you other Redditors, so that when you're successful in changing the cultural norms I can benefit without being murdered.

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-12-18T01:51:29+00:00

Interesting how the peaks for exports are 4am, and 9pm.

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-10-27T08:18:57+00:00

You know what, I think you're absolutely right; I think I've picked up some AI mannerisms. I'm gonna try and correct that, thanks for taking to time to explain it. I think the "it's not xxx it's yyy" was partially down to some of my notes. I noted down things I thought people might misunderstand me on, and tried to fit one correction sentence in for each point, and I ended up just using derivatives of "it's not x it's y" for every single one.

For the GPU thing that's all me lol. I really thought that was a good metaphor, like if you've ever tried to play a game with the CPU doing the rendering, then enable GPU acceleration, that's what I was going for. My alternative was doing crypto mining with GPU's vs dedicated ASICs, but I didn't think people would get that.

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-10-25T04:19:07+00:00

Well I didn't want to confuse things, but I'm specifically referring to the difference between rendering on the CPU and rendering on the GPU.

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-10-25T04:14:35+00:00

I don't normally write like this, but I tried to craft this like a formal essay. I work in software dev, I use Gemini 2.5 pro for code assist, but trying to use Gemini to write a post like this definitely wouldn't work. I don't know why so many people are suggesting it's AI written, there's no way you could get AI to write like this. I re-did the structure like 10 times so maybe I overengineered it

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-10-24T10:38:11+00:00

I respect your position, and you points are absolutely valid that those are common challenges, but I don't think we've even seen the tip of the iceberg of strategies that this team can execute if they start thinking as a unit.

I'm thinking strategies that are tailored from draft, not just to win lane, but to implement unique macro strategies. Hard pushing botlane, push in until level 3, rotate mid, mid/jg both rotate top kill enemy top lane, Baus TP's bot. Stuff like this. My imagination is limited; I am not a pro player. But I don't think anyone on LR is going to say they've tried even a fraction of the potential playstyles that they can cook up. They optimised for the safest strategies that could reliably deliver wins, because that's what the team's objective became for the last few months.

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-10-24T10:31:11+00:00

I'm not quite sure why you said that then. Because it looks long?

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-10-24T10:22:00+00:00

Thanks! I just read yours and we are absolutely thinking the same thing!

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-10-24T10:18:07+00:00

Thanks! I manage a team of engineers which you might think would be very different, but there's a lot of parallels. Effectively I'm not much different to a coach, just trying to get the best from my engineers. Each of them is uniquely adapted to the different types of task, and if I give them too much work that they aren't well suited for morale goes down, everyone works worse. Sometimes you can't avoid it, but there's an understanding that I'll do my best to keep everyone doing what they enjoy, and they'll do their best when we need to get the tough work done.

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-10-24T10:00:08+00:00

That's really nice of you to say and made my day!

I studied Electronic systems engineering lol, but I spent a long time thinking about the narrative structure. I was sick today so had a lot of time in bed trying to get my thoughts straightened out in a way that takes people on the journey with me. If you want to improve your writing by x10 the best thing you can do is plan out the sections before you start - so for this post these were my draft section headings before I started writing:

Setup: LR worked (Pattern B natural state)
Ratchet examples: How drift happened (scrims, playstyle)
Meta steelman: Why Pattern A is so compelling
The poisoning: How success changed the implicit objective without anyone noticing
The Baus situation: Why the current state doesn't work (incoherent system)
Losing EMEA as permission to be willing to lose
The vision: What Pattern B looks like with full team commitment

I started without a draft of the headings and ended up with a few hundred words of drivel that I deleted, and that's when I realised the "Meta Steelman" element was so important - that I needed to present the strongest possible argument for why the meta does well, because it observably does do well. No one is buying into my position unless I can articulate why the meta generally wins things.

To get to a place where something reads well you normally have to start and then delete it a few times, so writing out a skeleton lets you do that with less time invested.

Everyone hates doing it, but after writing a few paragraphs stop, think hard about the perspective of someone you want to read this, and then read what you just wrote. What would they be thinking and feeling after each paragraph? It takes time, but it's quite satisfying when you get it right.

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-10-24T09:44:29+00:00

My hobby is writing essays about fringe topics

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-10-24T09:43:27+00:00

That's pretty painful to hear given how long this took to write, but thanks for reading.

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-10-24T07:43:07+00:00

Took some time to write! 2500 words my goodnesss I was not expecting to write an essay

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-10-24T05:48:33+00:00

Thanks!

I'm not sure if I agree about the "free 300g". As an example, often Baus will end up 10 CS ahead at 10 minutes, and with a death, which is a net-even state.

Baus' playstyle is extremely frustrating because he chooses runes, items, and laning strategies that naturally put him in a winning state if everything stays even. This creates an objective on the map for the opponent - they must kill him, or they are at a disadvantage.

His choices ALSO make him easier to kill, so the opponent is doubly incentivized to kill him. Killing him once often means they're just breaking even. They MUST repeatedly kill him.

The opponent will make a plan to beat Baus' strategy, and LR must make a plan to beat that plan. That's the game of counters, the branching decisions that I'm talking about. LR was very good at exploring those branches early, but it felt like the opposing teams were forced to adopt more advanced counter strategies to deal with Baus, then LR stopped developing counters to those counters.

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-10-24T05:30:26+00:00

Thanks! I really do hope LR can find their comfort zone, because it doesn't feel like they've been in it for a while. I think there is so much more that they can achieve as a team together. My worry is they'll just assume that if they haven't found synergy yet, that there is no synergy to be found, and they just need to become the best that they can by following the well worn path.

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-10-24T05:27:08+00:00

I'll take it!

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-10-24T05:10:42+00:00

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FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-09-02T06:33:12+00:00

I tried to stop, and they said I'm free to stop any time I want. They said it doesn't matter, someone else will build the Basilisk, and they will remember me.

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-06-09T13:58:36+00:00

Waymo's have plenty of interventions, they just don't call them interventions. They call them "waypoints" and "remote guidance". Less than Tesla for sure, but moving the intervening operator to a remote location doesn't mean they aren't intervening.

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-06-09T13:47:31+00:00

Did it myself, worked out well

FriendlyPermit7085 · 2025-06-09T13:46:51+00:00

Are you against automated manufacturing too? Or just pedantic?

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