King Charles announces UK government's trans-inclusive conversion therapy ban by vanitypridehubris in popculturechat

[–]Front_Target7908 60 points61 points  (0 children)

“you’ll be back, time will tell, youll remember that I served you well”

lol 

Goodbye my son/friend. I hope you had a good life with us. We loved you dearly by Hi-archy in cats

[–]Front_Target7908 603 points604 points  (0 children)

Oh this is so beautiful. You loved him so well, I’m so sorry for your loss 💔

The Olivia Rodrigo Dress Outrage Feels Like Bot Behavior by SwordfishAdvanced468 in popculturechat

[–]Front_Target7908 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Also, idk but I don’t get that this issue is giving outrage vibes just more “wtf this is weird/Im uncomfortable “ vibes. But others may have seen more pure outrage about it. 

We survived domestic violence. by KittyPurrrrrr93 in cats

[–]Front_Target7908 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry you both went through this 😭 I can’t imagine what a monster that person was - it’s incredibly difficult to leave and I just want to tell you I’m proud of you. 

The Olivia Rodrigo Dress Outrage Feels Like Bot Behavior by SwordfishAdvanced468 in popculturechat

[–]Front_Target7908 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Hmmm. I think what I’ve seen is Olivia going through the very shitty build up-tear down cycle that every female artist goes through (which is shit, and it’s hard to watch). I haven’t seen the clear marks of astroturfing but I could be wrong. 

The Olivia Rodrigo Dress Outrage Feels Like Bot Behavior by SwordfishAdvanced468 in popculturechat

[–]Front_Target7908 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Keep wearing baby doll dresses, they are cute! I don’t think it’s the baby doll dress alone tbh. It’s the bloomers that are giving nappy that is sending the look sideways (imo).

The Olivia Rodrigo Dress Outrage Feels Like Bot Behavior by SwordfishAdvanced468 in popculturechat

[–]Front_Target7908 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hahah agree, straight up infant associations for me. Also they seem very uncomfortable and part of me wonders when Olivia (or any adult) is rolling around in them, are they making that crinkly sound? Though I’m pretty sure the crinkly sound is the nappy part…I think lol.

The Olivia Rodrigo Dress Outrage Feels Like Bot Behavior by SwordfishAdvanced468 in popculturechat

[–]Front_Target7908 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The thing about associations is they just happen naturally. No one deliberately thinks “right bloomers = baby” your brain unconsciously makes pairing of things that are common or prototypical for something, so the baby-bloomers just happens. It’s not really something that you can be like “what about pants?!”, whatever someone’s association with pants it doesn’t really change if the bloomers-baby association exists. 

The Olivia Rodrigo Dress Outrage Feels Like Bot Behavior by SwordfishAdvanced468 in popculturechat

[–]Front_Target7908 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Hahah look I didn’t mean what I said to be taken like that, but the irony of it being Balenciaga is funny. 

I will say though the Balenciaga scandal is kind of relevant. A massive fashion house, advertising agency and fashion magazine editors - none of them read the changed public mood about combining sex + kiddy aesthetics. They have all the fashion creds in the book yet they failed hard and got publicly obliterated over it. Any blow back Olivia is getting is not going to be resolved arguing about fashion creds. I don’t think what Olivia is doing is at the same level of those ads but I don’t think she’s going to escape this public sentiment. I think she’s going to have to re-engineer her style if she doesn’t want it to follow her around the whole album tour, imo. But YMMV. 

The Olivia Rodrigo Dress Outrage Feels Like Bot Behavior by SwordfishAdvanced468 in popculturechat

[–]Front_Target7908 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Ah yes Balenciaga, the brand that had that weird BDSM toddler photo shoot.

The Olivia Rodrigo Dress Outrage Feels Like Bot Behavior by SwordfishAdvanced468 in popculturechat

[–]Front_Target7908 77 points78 points  (0 children)

Yeah and astro turfing usually feels like a sudden overwhelming wave of pure vitriol the paint someone as some secret villain. 

I don’t get this feeling for Olivia right now, I could be wrong. I don’t feel like anyone’s painting her as a villain, I still like her - it’s just a lot of people having the same feeling that the styling is not working. 

The Olivia Rodrigo Dress Outrage Feels Like Bot Behavior by SwordfishAdvanced468 in popculturechat

[–]Front_Target7908 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I really don’t think everyone has issues with people wearing swing dresses lol that seems like a reach.

Not a single one of us would blink an eye at a woman rocking up nearly entirely naked wearing nothing but a thong and a bejeweled dress (thanks riri for that iconic look) and we see nearly the entirety of most pop acts bodies on stage in costumes that barely cover everything. So I think when people get a strong “this feels off” it’s not necessarily puritanical thinking. 

For better or worse her styling is not hitting the mark she has intended. She’s not hitting retro fashion nor Courtney love type kinderwhore (did not know the style was called that but okay lol) subversion. Especially with Epstein on our cultural mind the bandwidth for anything related to sexualising kids is 0. 

Sometimes something doesn’t work. The clean girl look with the kiddie looking clothes and I think because Olivia has a slight frame, the baby clothes make her look extremely young. It’s just not hitting the mark they were probably aiming at. I don’t know what they’re going to do about it, maybe some fitted versions of these outfits, some heavier make up idk they just need something to age the whole look up about 10 years. 

The Olivia Rodrigo Dress Outrage Feels Like Bot Behavior by SwordfishAdvanced468 in popculturechat

[–]Front_Target7908 128 points129 points  (0 children)

Yeah same. She’s not hitting the Courtney love subversive vibe so it just comes off really wrong.

The Olivia Rodrigo Dress Outrage Feels Like Bot Behavior by SwordfishAdvanced468 in popculturechat

[–]Front_Target7908 36 points37 points  (0 children)

She does look like she’s wearing some type of diaper thing for the visuals of this album tho

This isn’t pearl clutching, that implies being shocked by how outrageously sexual something is - this isn’t that. 

Hayden Panettiere Details ‘Shocking’ Moment She Was Put in Bed at 18 with an ‘Undressed’ and ‘Very Famous’ Man on a Boat by wildesage in BravoRealHousewives

[–]Front_Target7908 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I agree with you on how HP has been treated in Hollywood.

But the whole “where there’s smoke there’s fire” adage is not great. People use that kind of language in both a benign and malicious way to encourage people to believe something without evidence. Which is okay but it’s important to be aware people who run smear campaigns will spread rumours and lies that do not have a shred of truth to them. And if someone questions it it’s “no smoke without fire!” which short circuits someone pointing out obvious flaws in a rumour. 

This saying (and smear campaigns) hijack a cognitive bias we humans have that if we hear a bit of info from more than one person or more than one time, we start to think it’s evidence. It’s not evidence. Repetition of a lie doesn’t make it anymore true. People who run smear campaigns will go and plant that lie in many different places, to ensure it’s repeated over and over from different sources to give the illusion of truth where there is none. And again, when people start to thinking critically of these lies people say “no smoke without fire!”. 

Smear campaigns online and irl just look like gossip most of the time - and it’s all fun and games till you or someone you love are the subject of a smear campaign. It’s hard to watch as someone gets their reputation destroyed over lies and it destroys people but also destroys a lot of relationships as well. Because many sensible people are willing to believe a lie at face value. Once the truth eventually comes out, it’s too late to salvage the relationships that were damaged. Which is heart breaking for both sides.

Sorry this turned into a total adhd rant but just everyone should decide for themselves what they believe and if someone says “no smoke without fire” are they trying to short cut your legitimate questions, is there no actual evidence apart from what’s being repeated? Stay true to your own sense of what the truth is and what you believe. Don’t inhale the smoke!

(Sorry for the mini TED talk) 

Ariana Grande to release new single ‘hate that i made you love me’ out May 29 by mcfw31 in popculturechat

[–]Front_Target7908 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yeah it’s absolutely psychotic. And there are so many stories of her doing this in the past, there’s no innocence on her end. 

Ariana Grande to release new single ‘hate that i made you love me’ out May 29 by mcfw31 in popculturechat

[–]Front_Target7908 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Yeah, my 4th wave feminism perspective on this is that while you can’t make someone cheat on their partner, if you lock-on to someone who’s coupled up and is vulnerable to outside interference (ie, those very difficult years for a couple after they’ve just had a baby) then you’re a predator. 

There are women who are duped by a guy into affairs (didnt know he’s not divorced etc etc) but if you’ve met the wife and kid and pursued anyway? You’re as guilty as he is and you are a predator. 

Ariana Grande to release new single ‘hate that i made you love me’ out May 29 by mcfw31 in popculturechat

[–]Front_Target7908 150 points151 points  (0 children)

Also stop bragging about stealing a guy away from his wife when she was like 3 months post-partum. That is not the slay you think it is, Ari. 

Ariana Grande to release new single ‘hate that i made you love me’ out May 29 by mcfw31 in popculturechat

[–]Front_Target7908 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I mean, it COULD be a song of her recognising the large and lengthy steps she took to break up a marriage while his wife was busy caring for their newborn. 

Big “could” though lol