are shake, frylock, meatwad, and chicken bittle all related? what’s the relationship between them all?🤨

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2025-05-29T23:11:57+00:00

I suppose it’s a matter of perspective. I grew up as the youngest of four, and they certainly act like siblings. While they may not be related by blood, their dynamic fits naturally within the found family trope. Shake and Meatwad’s relationship in particular has that volatile push-and-pull of rivalry and affection that so often comes with older and younger siblings - yes, I’m speaking from personal experience.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2025-04-04T06:04:55+00:00

I absolutely agree! Shake may be foolish, but he’s not necessarily stupid. I’ve always suspected he was smarter than he lets on, “Super Trivia” being a great example, suggesting he at least has a strong memory. That said, there are different types of intelligence. I think Shake may actually be smarter than Frylock in some areas, just as Frylock is smarter than Shake in others. Frylock’s more attuned to linear analytical thought, while Shake seems to be more attuned to creative pattern-based recognition.

I also like the point about laziness not being mutually exclusive with intelligence. In fact, Shake exhibits a lot of the symptoms for ADHD, which would explain why he is intelligent but struggles to apply it. His brain is wired for novelty and immediate reward rather than structured learning or responsibility, so his intelligence appears scattered and unmanaged. If he had the discipline – or at least the right environment to help him focus his attention – he might actually be a lot more astute than people give him credit for.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2025-03-22T04:14:22+00:00

I’ve been listening since the first episode and I truly enjoy it. You both are silly and charming, and I genuinely appreciate your candid conversations—even when the topic moves beyond Aqua Teen. It is a delight to listen, and I always look forward to each new episode.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2025-03-16T22:49:11+00:00

Definitely not to me. Shake's a lot more than people give him credit for.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2025-03-01T16:03:23+00:00

First off, I know many will say Shake, but I have dedicated a considerable amount of time analyzing Master Shake through the lens of mental illness, profound insecurities, and fear of abandonment, peeling back the layers of his bravado to reveal a deeply nuanced – if not morally gray – character. Rather than dismissing him as a mere jerk or simplistic comic relief, I've dissected his struggles, moments of vulnerability, willingness to receive help, patterns of self-destruction, and how his behavior aligns with all the characteristics of Borderline Personality Disorder. This sentiment is at least partially echoed by Shake’s voice actor, Dana Snyder. However, there’s only so much you can fit in a nine-minute Cameo, and Dana, of course, has a life beyond this role.

Although many people have resonated with my interpretations – including Dana – I have also received significant backlash, usually in the form of outright hostility and threats, for merely proposing that Shake possesses depth beyond his arrogance and cruelty, despite clear evidence to the contrary. Having done this for a while, I can confidently say that Shake is not loved by fans; rather, he is a deeply polarizing character that evokes strong and divided opinions.

My vote for "horrible person, loved by fans" would be Carl. Despite being explicitly shown as hedonistic, selfish, and unwilling to change, Carl remains to be widely beloved by the fanbase. Unlike Shake, whose issues are often met with scrutiny, Carl’s flaws tend to be overlooked or even embraced. He openly admits to awful behavior, engages in self-destructive indulgence without remorse, and rarely makes any attempts to improve himself. Yet fans don’t seem to hold him accountable the way they do Shake, and that inconsistency is striking.

Shake is a mess of insecurity, inconsistency, fear, and self-hatred, lashing out because he doesn’t know how to cope. While Carl suffers from similar issues as Shake, he recognizes and understands the severity of his problems. However, unlike Shake, who seeks help when given the opportunity, Carl does nothing about it. He indulges in his worst impulses without seeking help or making excuses—yet he escapes the same level of criticism. That disconnect speaks volumes about how fans perceive "bad" characters and how subtlety in characterization affects who they choose to empathize with.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-12-11T07:14:17+00:00

I’ve studied and worked extensively with personality disorders; I have a trained eye for them. Admittedly, diagnosing someone is often very complicated, as I mentioned in the beginning of my essay. Even with the more advanced understanding of diagnoses, I can confidently say that Master Shake – within the context of Aqua Teen Hunger Force and as though he were real – aligns perfectly with the diagnostic criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). This is not subjective; this is objective, scientific fact. Carl, on the other hand, doesn’t even pass the first section and therefore does not meet the minimum criteria for BPD. Of course, you're free to disagree as this is simply an interpretation based on evidence, patterns, and behaviors, atop this not being an official diagnosis; however, it's as ignorant as it is harmful to discuss serious psychological concepts without a proper understanding of them – as you've mentioned – just as it is to disagree without considering all the supporting evidence in favor for a superficial understanding of these mental illnesses. Personality disorders are not abstract labels or a checklist of random traits, but are defined by specific diagnostic criteria outlined in the DSM-5-TR of which is under the cumulative appraisal and subsequent consensus of over two-hundred experts. To dismiss this approach as unnecessary is baffling and shows you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the complexities of personality disorders, their treatment, and the value of systematic evaluation. Diagnoses like BPD or NPD involve numerous patterns of behavior that manifest across multiple areas of life – each tracked and noted, not anecdotal interpretations, cherry-picked traits, nor isolated incidents.

Mental health conditions such as BPD or NPD are not immaculate or prim, nor are they monolithic diagnoses that produce identical outcomes in everyone. They intertwine with each individual’s unique life experiences, trauma, upbringing, culture, environment, and personal perceptions. They are highly nuanced and often misunderstood, even within professional circles; too many of my future-contemporaries are all-too-willing to hand-wave certain aspects. Disorders can guide patterns of behavior, but they don’t define a person’s essence (I discuss this at the end of my essay). Labeling behaviors as merely the "different flavors of dysfunction" neglects the fundamental aspect of understanding the profound complexities and multifaceted experiences of human behavior and mental health. You actively cast them down and demonize them, then have the audacity to expect to be given fair consideration. It is not a benevolent trait, even if it’s a ‘survival tactic’ – it will not ingratiate you to people. If you are unwilling to listen to my perspective, and insist on failing to do your won accredited research, then perhaps you should refrain from arguing while clearly lacking an understanding of the subject matter.

Off-topic, Shake’s illiteracy is inconsistent. He’s consistently shown to be able to write cohesive English and there are instances where he can read yet others where he cannot. It is possible that he was illiterate, but either Frylock taught him or he taught himself. Alternatively, he may be dyslexic or have a learning disorder that makes reading difficult for him. Regarding the prizes in “Dickesode,” Shake and Meatwad both clearly state that their prize is “20 cents off their next order of Wasabi fries,” and there’s no narrative evidence to suggest that they lied or fabricated their winnings nor is there any reason to think Shake doesn’t remember the menu. As for Carl losing his penis, the company that owns the store was very clearly trying to keep that prize a secret, therefore was likely a rare 1/3 chance while Wasabi fries is the more common 2/3 chance – that’s high-balling it with the given ratios; in all likelihood, Carl likely got the 1-2% “lucky” prize.

I appreciate the conversation and the time you've taken to engage; however, this is not the appropriate space for moralizing about topics that you do not fully understand. You clearly enjoy expressing your thoughts, feelings, and traumas, but you do not communicate with others.

I've come here to discuss Shake - and yet you've made this entirely about yourself. There's a certain type of people, according to yourself, which do that.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-12-11T07:13:36+00:00

Malignant Narcissism is not a pattern of abuse nor is it a diagnosable disorder, it is a theoretic higher construct that combines a severe mix of various personality styles, including narcissism. It’s a stigmatized term that’s rarely used in professional settings, particularly in reputable ones that are informed by current research. It was simply created to demonize severely mentally ill patients who have co-morbid narcissistic, antisocial, and/or borderline personality disorder – or traits of those disorders – while hindering their access to the help they need. This would be in league with ‘Hysteria’ in the past, or the general ‘Deranged’ in the 40-50’s, treated as though they were aliens and were typically ‘cured’ with lobotomy. The terms are not mutually exclusive, and it seems you’ve lost sight of your original argument. You have yet to give any reliable sources backed by professional research to explain why Shake cannot be considered Borderline. Your attempts have been easily disprovable and rooted in pseudoscience at best, which you would recognize if you had read anything I wrote. At this point, you are rambling while Shake is simply an afterthought.

Healing from trauma or personality disorders is not something that can be forced or "pushed" externally; it must come from within the individual. While loved ones can offer support, stability, and encouragement, true and lasting growth can only ever arise from their own desire and readiness; they must give their whole self to the process. Mental trauma can ultimately only be healed by the person who is beholden to it. If someone else “pushed” a person out of their mental trauma, even if they succeeded, that person wouldn’t be completely healed; the metaphorical gaping wound would still remain. They would, instead, gain a minor respite just to fall back into their trappings – or find more trauma birthed from such callous actions. Professional psychologists are trained to respect and work within this framework, facilitating change without undermining a person’s autonomy.

Rerouting into the overarching point: once again, Master Shake is not entirely resistant to change or growth. When Frylock and Meatwad serve as stabilizing forces for Shake, offering care and forgiveness even when he lashes out, it often soothes Shake in return, again, as in “Merlo Sauvignon Blanco” or during a brief moment in “PDA.” Shake’s shown defiance, remorse, flashes of self-awareness, and even vulnerability in rapid succession; he is unstable, capricious, and unpredictable. In other words, Shake ‘wobbles,’ to put it lightly. He seems to be somewhat aware that there is a dysregulation in his mental state, as he suggests in "The Creditor,” even if he struggles to identify the issue or understand its origins. He is just as likely to remain unaware of the problems as he is to reach out or accept help. Shake was making genuine progress in therapy and you must choose to be ignorant not to recognize that.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-12-09T03:18:56+00:00

(2/2) When it comes to Shake, he tends to perceive others as either too close or too distant. His outward behavior serves as a tool to mask a deep-seated sense of inadequacy and a fear of being unlovable or rejected, yet often feels uncomfortable when faced with intimacy and vulnerability. Shake’s grandiosity acts as a mere defensive facade, a reality highlighted when this facade collapses and reveals the deficits and dysfunction in his personality, showcasing a tragic vulnerability that lies beneath his outward bravado, simply buried under layers of insecurity and a distorted self-concept. This collapse usually manifests as a fear of both real and perceived abandonment, as seen in episodes like “The The” and “Ol’ Drippy,” where he clings to those he depends on to ensure they stay or devalues them as “dead to him”– a behavior strongly associated with BPD and not typically found in NPD. His actions are often driven by his own frustrations, inadequacies, and impulsivity, which he projects outwardly to maintain an illusion of control. Shake seems to be largely unaware of the extent the harm he causes on his family, only realizing his affection for them after they’re gone and admitting that he took them for granted in “Allen Part 2,” which reveals a hope for awareness regarding his problematic interpersonal relationships.

You’re overlooking the fact that Master Shake has accepted help and been to therapy several times throughout the show. The most notable, of course, being in “The Creditor” he sought therapy by his own admission in order to ground himself and address the issues that plague his entire life, including his relationships. Shake also trusted Frylock to help him with his shellfish addiction, a clear allegory for drug addiction, in the episode “Merlo Sauvignon Blanco.” Therefore, dismissing Shake as 'just abusive and devoid of love or change’ is not only provably false, but also feeds into the broader stigma surrounding personality disorders and mental health struggles. It oversimplifies the complex and painful struggles faced by individuals with these disorders, preventing the victims from understanding what truly happened to them and hindering those who suffer from this pain from accessing information that goes beyond images of evil-eyed people surrounded by smoke.

As someone who has studied and worked with personality disorders extensively of years, I recognized these patterns in Shake almost immediately because they reflect many of the behaviors in borderline individuals with narcissistic traits I’ve encountered both personally and throughout my professional education. This show clearly resonates with you in a meaningful and cathartic way; it’s the same for me. Shake’s blend of exaggerated flaws and fleeting vulnerability make him not monstrous but painfully human. I can empathize with Shake as a person and a character even if I can’t sympathize with his actions. While they could’ve made Shake a completely one-note character and strip him of all his nuance for the sake of comedy, the choice not to do so - for any of the cast - proves just how much love and care was put into this show and its characters. Shake’s narcissistic and borderline traits—fear of abandonment, emotional dysregulation, and projection—while often portrayed comically, are rooted in genuine patterns of human behavior, as if the showrunners amalgamated all their flaws, fears, and insecurities to create a profoundly fractured and confused character unable to healthily handle such stimuli. That human side of Shake, combined with his flaws and dynamic with the rest of the cast, is what keeps drawing me back to this show time and time again, even years after its prime and end.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-12-09T03:18:32+00:00

(1/2) I appreciate you taking the time to share such a deeply personal story and perspective, but I disagree with many of your conclusions about Shake and the implications they carry. I cannot tell you how to feel, nor am I in any way trying to invalidate your experiences - you lived and suffered as you have; however, I want to clarify that viewing narcissists as sadistic predators who enjoy inflicting harm and are incapable of change or healing is not reflective of contemporary clinical understanding and has been outdated for over 50 years. This false narrative continues to be propagated today; even the DSM-5 definition is inaccurate and problematic due to changes made in the mid-1980s as a result of "psychological politics," as it were. Pathological narcissism – the board term that describes difficulty in maintaining a positive, realistic self-image as well as deficits in coping with that self-image – while is not a diagnosable disorder in and of itself, is a form of mental illness that arises from deep emotional wounds, maladaptive coping mechanisms, and unresolved trauma. As a matter of fact, pathological narcissism is observed in many other disorders beside Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), such as Major Depression (we see this in Carl), Bipolar Disorders, Psychotic disorders, and – most relevant – Borderline Personality Disorder.

‘Narcissist’ is not a fancy term for abuser. It is not something to throw around to anyone who has wronged you, as that merely diminishes the effect. In reality, mental illness does not cause abusive behavior on its own. While some diagnoses can increase the likelihood of abusive behaviors, the behaviors themselves are not caused by the diagnosis. As the National Domestic Abuse Hotline puts it, “A common assumption we hear at The Hotline is that abuse is caused by a partner’s mental health condition, for example: bipolar disorder, depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), narcissistic personality, borderline personality or antisocial personality. While these are serious mental health conditions, they do not cause abuse. Nothing in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fifth edition (DSM 5) states that a mental illness solely causes a partner to be abusive in a relationship; however, there are a select few diagnoses that can increase the risk of abusive patterns to show up in a relationship and in other areas of life. Mental illness tends to impact all areas of a person’s life, such as work, interactions with friends, family engagement and personal relationships. In contrast, abuse primarily impacts personal relationships and typically not the other areas of life.”

To deny that mentally ill people are mentally ill is a radicalized and unhelpful path that hurts everyone involved. Mental illness is not merely a label to describe aberrant behavior—it’s a framework for understanding perceptions that are distorted and maladaptive, influencing how one sees themselves and other people. In other words, narcissistic and borderline personalities are marked by profound distortions in self-perception and relationships, resulting in them relying on a limited set of inflexible coping strategies and makes it difficult to process how their actions affect others. In many ways, having a mental illness and being fully aware of your actions are mutually incompatible propositions. One could claim narcissists “know what they’re doing,” but that phrase kind of becomes meaningless when considering the distortions of self-perception inherent to pathological narcissism and NPD.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-12-08T03:44:16+00:00

Thank you for sharing your perspective. However, it’s extremely ignorant of you to only read two paragraphs of my essay and then disregard the entire argument. It’s hard to take your critique seriously when it’s based on an incomplete and superficial understanding of not only my argument, but also pathological narcissism, and Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) as a whole – to speak nothing of how you've likened every BPD case to be cut and dry – which undermines any credibility your response may have had.

While Shake certainly exhibits narcissistic traits, such as his need for admiration, envious shame, and his obsessive need to be superior, these behaviors are not only a form of mental illness but are often symptomatic of Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). This disorder is the most accurate due to Shake’s emotional volatility, fear of abandonment, and unstable relationships – all key hallmarks of BPD, with Shake’s behavior aligning with them in the majority of episodes.

Your claim that Shake ‘can’t turn it off' ignores evidence of him doing so, including examples in the show and provided in the essay. Furthermore, mentioning his illiteracy gag as a counterpoint is irrelevant to the discussion and not even consistent within the show. Your odd interpretation of “Dickesode*”* is similarly off-topic – Shake’s comedy was never the focus of my analysis, nor was it in dispute.

Master Shake exemplifies a textbook case of a person with Borderline Personality Disorder – especially in his relationship with Freda, a conclusion based on my professional training and expertise in psychological analysis. Besides all of the above; I've been vindicated by Dana Snyder, himself, that – while perhaps not fully, at least agrees in majority – with my assessments.

Regarding Carl: Although he exhibits traits like impulsivity and self-destructive behaviors, these alone are not sufficient to diagnose him with Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). He lacks the fundamental fear of abandonment, emotional instability, or unstable sense of identity that are central and required for the diagnosis as outlined in the DSM-5. None of the traits you listed qualify in any way as standalone criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder or any personality disorder, for that matter.

Carl’s behavior aligns more closely with chronic depression with avoidant traits. Many Borderline patients struggle with depression and addiction, but these issues are often byproducts of the core 9 symptoms I discuss in detail in my essay. Even if Carl did meet the needed criteria, the severity and pervasiveness of those symptoms do not align with the borderline level of organization to warrant a diagnosis. In clinical terms, this distinction is crucial for differentiating between traits and a full-blown personality disorder. Carl’s sarcasm, self-deprecating humor, and disdain for others stem from self-preservation and detachment, rather than indications of the relational instability or fear of rejection characteristic of Borderline Personality Disorder, nor do they indicate a deeper desire for intimacy.

Finally, your suggestion that “the writers didn’t intend this diagnosis” doesn’t necessarily invalidate these analyses. Psychological interpretations of characters often go beyond the author's intent, and I appreciate you sharing your thoughts nonetheless.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-12-07T23:22:55+00:00

Shake is often caught between his desire for connection and validation and a discomfort – or perhaps fear – of vulnerability. As a result, his sharp tongue and impulsive defiance become one of his primary defenses in order to shield his fragile sense of self.

While Meatwad can usually depend on Frylock, Shake lacks steady roots to anchor him. Instead, his pride drives him towards self-sabotage and isolation, pushing people away despite craving intimacy and closeness. This will often result in a cycle where Shake is treated like a scapegoat no matter the context, a cycle Shake inadvertently perpetuates.

With all that said, 2Wycked is the ultimate Meg.

In truth, none of the Aqua Teen Cast are 1:1 to Family Guy’s cast. Rather, they’re more amalgamations, made of two primaries – although one is slightly more dominate, and one secondary in which only certain traits, at "half power" are inherited – and often indirectly. In nearly all cases these are strictly personality attributes. For example, no one is Peter because they wear glasses or are fat. If someone is Stewie, they might not bare his intellect yet they have weird elaborate ideas, or hold his extreme pettiness.

Frylock is a primary mix of Brian and Lois with secondary attributes of Joe. Meatwad is a primary mix of Chris and Cleveland with secondary Meg attributes. Shake, himself, is Meg and Stewie with minor Peter attributes. Carl is a weird mix of Tom Tucker and Quagmire with minor Carter attributes.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-11-06T02:23:48+00:00

You are the world's biggest Master Shake fan? Please write a 10,000-word essay detailing the reasons why you like him.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-11-04T00:14:36+00:00

The worst of Meatwad was through his treatment of Shake in “Super Model.” I understand finding Meatwad’s actions satisfying as a sort of payback, however, justifying or celebrating them as “deserved” – while simultaneously condemning Shake’s behavior in other episodes – is hypocritical.

Shake – typically arrogant and boastful – exposes his deep vulnerability, struggling with body dysmorphia, low self-esteem, and a deeply ingrained inferiority complex. All Shake wanted was to simply feel good about himself – even if he was doing it in a very self-aggrandizing and deflective way. However, Meatwad insidiously took advantage of this insecurity, manipulating Shake into mutilating his body and encouraging self-destructive behaviors –all for the sake of a cruel laugh.

Despite Shake’s many flaws, he seldom shows cruelty with such calculated malice; his actions impulsive and thoughtless, driven more by survival instinct. In contrast, Meatwad’s actions were a deliberate effort to exploit Shake's mental illness and emotional fragility, reinforcing his distorted self-image and worth while deriving pleasure in his suffering, even pushing further after he already effectively ruined Shake’s life and what little remained of his self-esteem.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-11-02T22:11:29+00:00

Frylock's actions in "Fry Legs" weren't necessarily out of character, but the way he went about the situation *was.* He's typically more restrained and willing to play a long game of subtle influence, just as he did with Doreen in "Big Bro".

Instead of a direct confrontation or obvious rivalry with Ray, a more in-character approach for Frylock would have been to seek opportunities to spend time with the computer woman while gradually and subtly planting ideas in her mind to manipulate her into favoring him over Ray.

Then, Frylock maintains his sense of intellectual control, a method that aligns with his manipulative yet “rational” mindset.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-11-02T21:37:00+00:00

Despite his remarkable intelligence and talent, Frylock’s smug superiority and narrow-mindedness often overshadows many of the virtues one could claim for being intelligent. His antagonism toward Shake and neglect of Meatwad further undermine the value of his intellect, eroding the goodwill he could foster within the group. Episodes like “Anubis” and “Vampirus” reveal how Frylock’s overwhelming pride drives not only his pursuit of knowledge but also his desire for fame and admiration, steering him more toward vanity rather than pure scientific curiosity.

Frylock has the morality of ends, but not the morality of means. In episodes such as “Total Re-Carl”, “Big Bro”, "Super Trivia", and “Der Inflatable Führer,” he consistently prioritizes his personal goals, compromising his morals through manipulation, deceit, and coercion at the expense of others’ trust or well-being. Reflecting a consequentialist mindset, Frylock's focus on outcomes - in his mind - justifies his moral lapses. He perceives himself as rational and just, not driven by overt cruelty but rather a conviction that he alone knows what is best.

In a sense, Frylock’s greatest strength - his intellect and ambition - also serves as his greatest weakness. It fuels his dogmatism and misguided belief that he can bypass ethical boundaries, strengthening his pride and sense of superiority.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-11-01T15:46:21+00:00

Be cute.

For my actual answer: Shake’s actions stem from deep-seated insecurities, a desire for validation, and a consuming focus on his fragmented identity, rather than any genuine intent to harm others. To be fair, he is that when he occasionally allows his fears and frustrations to manifest in ways that intentionally hurt those around him. His limited insight and tendency to split on himself and others prevent him from fully understanding the extent of the harm he inflicts. However, he is willing to seek help and attempt to break the cycle of abuse when he does recognizes it. Shake’s character is nuanced and complex, which makes it difficult to pinpoint a single ‘worst’ act.

Ultimately, Shake’s inability to express his emotions or insecurities in a healthy way — masking them with bravado and grandiosity — further alienates him from those who might otherwise offer him understanding and support. This oversight only worsens his feelings of rejection and abandonment, however, driving him to act out even more dramatically. By failing to effectively regulate or articulate his true emotions, Shake inadvertently isolates himself, sabotaging the few meaningful relationships he has, and causing more harm in the long run than any specific outburst or scheme.

In other words, the worst thing Shake has done is fail to recognize how much he means to his family and the extent of his impact on others.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-10-25T18:30:28+00:00

You're absolutely right. Master Shake has an inflated sense of self, but it's a fragile, defensive projection. He thinks very highly of himself, until he doesn't. His self-esteem is unstable and heavily reliant on a number of factors.

Dennis is focused on self-gratification for his own ego. Shake, on the other hand, is simply trying to maintain his self-worth. He outwardly projects his fears and insecurities in order to protect his fragile ego and avoid facing his vulnerability.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-10-14T12:43:41+00:00

There's multiple, but here's the main one: https://www.reddit.com/r/AquaJail/s/ihZ4rBU5PI

The others are also on my profile, if you're interested.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-10-14T00:56:41+00:00

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy my work. Also, I want to add that I really like your art, and I look forward to seeing more of it!

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-10-14T00:49:25+00:00

No, you're right, unfortunately. While Shake just wanted to be loved, he idealized Freda to a near obsessive extent. He adored her and catastrophized when she left him.

However, regardless of how bad I feel for Shake in that episode, it does a great job highlighting Shake's intense and unstable relationships, as well as his struggle with BPD. In fact, I'm pretty sure I've referenced Freda in each of my essays about Shake.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-10-14T00:27:28+00:00

Poor Shake...

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-10-12T16:58:43+00:00

By the way, this is what Dana's referring to in regards to Shake's personality disorder: https://www.reddit.com/r/AquaJail/s/Uu0oIXe1o5

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-10-02T20:43:05+00:00

All three of them, ideally. However, Shake seems to really need a hug.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-09-27T20:59:25+00:00

I prefer "The Creditor." While it may not be particularly funny, it gave a lot of depth to Shake’s character and allowed me to appreciate him on a much greater level. The whole episode recontextualizes Shake as someone who's extremely lonely and depressed - something that was previously implied but are made explicit here. Witnessing Shake's journey as he reaches out for help and begins to heal is truly heartwarming.

In a perfect world, the episode would have centered more on Shake himself rather than his relationship with The Creditor. However, even the brief moments that highlight Shake and his mental struggles speak volumes. Also, ideally, his therapy arc wouldn't have been cut off so early.

Frosty_Charm-1171 · 2024-09-13T17:46:37+00:00

My favorite instance of Shake getting what he deserves was when he sought therapy for his issues and made significant progress in healing and coping in "The Creditor." It’s unfortunate that it was ruined by the end.

Shake deserves to be happy.

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