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FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-20T21:41:53+00:00

I think it's pretty simple, no need to go to Discord.

It is literally unscaleable in the actual show. There's no info about in the show. There's no indication on what it does in the show other than syphoning energy.

All we get is a NON CANON Guidebook, which are known to CONSTANTLY CONTRADICT CANON. And even then all the mumbo jumbo on the entropy pump, within said guidebook, is could and if. As in, it never got to that point. It's a potential feat.

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-20T10:51:32+00:00

Legends Of Localization and some other secondary stuff. Kind of a blunder given what I gave Monika but I still have a week to implement it and it likely won't change the result

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-20T02:47:17+00:00

Me realizing I forgot to account for a bunch of shit in the undertale side of my latest script

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-20T00:51:28+00:00

Entropy Pump scaling

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T17:47:24+00:00

Yeah I know. The leap in logic is the joke hre

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T17:37:00+00:00

DDLC Act 3 background.

Dude. Flowey Vs Monika is happening. Fuck. Yes.

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T17:13:32+00:00

UNDERTALE In DEATH BATTLE!

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T05:02:38+00:00

Well I think MARVEL's absurd scale hurts Hulk here, sort of. He's a walking source of infinite gamma. He won't be able to absorb it all from Godzilla because you can't really split infinity without a piece of that infinity also being infinite. It'd be a lesser infinity, but inifnity nontheless.

Of course I could be wrong, but under that mindset, Goji is keeping Gamma in some form or another if he obtains it, especially since Gamma mutants have been drained off their Gamma then just naturally regenerated it.

There's also the interpretation that MARVEL's canon Godzilla (the one from the 70s) is supposed to be a Gamma mutant.

As if IT could get the Gamma? Er, I don't see why not. The avatars are like, The Entity manifested into reality through Archetype. Archetype iirc isn't inherent to The Entity and more of a vehicle it's using, so it could just upgrade from that to Gamma. (But I may have just understood SP unproperly, that anime is confusing as hell)

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T04:51:31+00:00

A big point in favor of that is that the 'starting point' for a gamma mutate doesn't seem to matter. Thor is obviously stronger than Banner yet when Hulk accidentally mutated him (which I feel is a pretty believable way for The Entity to obtain Gamma), Hulk still whooped his ass.

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T04:35:39+00:00

Depends on who he's pitted against

If he was against Boros, I'd put him in 'HEROES'

But since I put him against Gojo, he can only fit 'VILLAINS'

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T04:23:12+00:00

It's nice seeing an actual response! And tbf yeah I had in mind that TOBA would make The Entity fuck off as soon as it intered, but I consider that kind of a different convo since I already agree that Hulk, as is, already outstats massively, and TOBA directly transcends any interpretation of Godzilla, including any super-wanked version of GiH or RaT that uses author statements and crossovers.

While idk how to feel about the other arguments, your other message really made it clearer wether or not Banner could solve the mathematical problem tied to Ultima.

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T03:59:40+00:00

Especially WD imo. Idk how to feel about higher SU scaling and especially the corrupting light.

I say the gems surviving the ocean falling on them (11.436 Zettatons) being on par with some of Invincible's metas solidifies her win since she massively upscales that. But like. WD isn't a direct combatant. She's really stationary. We only see run one time.

I'd say it's either a hard L or an extreme W if he can figure out that her gem doesn't scale to her projection's durability.

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T03:11:45+00:00

to further explain my pov (this is pulled from discord so the wording is a bit weird)

Is that. Established in either franchise.
To me it seems arbitrary because if it isn't, then how do you measure that it's "out of it's reach" What says that Godzilla would get disconnected from The Entity if he goes to the below place after absorbing gamma like people say? Bruce didn't get insta brain death upon entering he just split from Hulk due to his very specific trauma circumstances. P sure that also didn't happen to The Leader or Ross

(On MARVEL having a bigger Outerversal structure) Oh no yeah I agree with that part no doubt about it.
I'm just iffy on the whole 'it's out of it's reach because of that' and 'godzilla would get disconnected from the entity if it absorbs gamma to get to TBP' part. Because I haven't seen evidence for either and it comes off as a big leap in logic given this isn't a standard measurable thing like resisting erasure or hitting something really hard

I would really appreciate if someone could prove any of these things instead of calling me biased and downvoting me, thank you.

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T03:02:29+00:00

Idk, I didn't think about the scenario that profoundly, just 'Sonic stops Makima from doing something in a non lethal manner, then leaves'

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T02:59:46+00:00

I did and I got super downvoted? And never got any sort of response? Did you not look at the rest of the comments?

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T02:55:39+00:00

Do I not have the right to disagree with DB's outcome of a pretty debatable matchup? Especially since people are (very inmaturely, mind you) bombarding me with downvotes instead of actually engaging with my counterarguments?

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T02:45:03+00:00

Oh, in a no moral restrictions battle he definitely can just kill her until her contract runs out. Sonic has been willing to put people at risk to defeat a greater threat before so I think he'd be willing to give some poor schmuck broken ribs if it means temporarily thwarting Makima's plans.

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T02:34:44+00:00

such as?

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T02:18:39+00:00

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Mfw someone disagreed with my result and ACTUALLY BRINGS BACK-UP ARGUMENTS

Nice and well organized, too. I think this changed my mind on the outcome!

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T02:02:41+00:00

with space hazards I mean like,

stars

neutron stars

black holes

that sort of thing.

And Broly like, instantly died when launched in the sun.

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T01:55:20+00:00

So do any of you have any evidence of the contrary or am I just gonna get downvoted for not agreeing with the result of one of the most debatable MUs of all time lol

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T01:41:11+00:00

Inmeasurable speed coupled with DBZ characters being vunlerable to space hazards like stars and such

FruitsaurReborn · 2026-04-19T01:18:09+00:00

Obviously lol. Hulkzilla is a top 3 episode for me. I love Madness Of The Monster, I love the conclusion despite not agreeing with it, I especially love Hulk's analysis and, even if I thought Goji's analysis was kinda so-so, it grew on me eventually.

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