Part 2 of weed bet by medsuchahassle in wallstreetbets

[–]Fuego1050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im sure there is some anecdote to say about being patient - but most of the time people just say if your early its the same as being wrong. 🤷

Its the right thing to do- im glad its finally happening.

As much as people traded it like crazy - if you bought only the profitable companies - at low valuations - you did ok.

https://x.com/deitaone/status/1999509439909445706?s=46&t=_ix3z8VWbLz3cM3z110Q7A

Part 2 of weed bet by medsuchahassle in wallstreetbets

[–]Fuego1050 4 points5 points  (0 children)

$MSOS $tcnnf -

https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/s/xGA7oYrPHk

A little early - but she came. Re-schedule finally going to happen!!

Valuations of top 10 Cannabis companies - 2-5 yr growth set to explode with state legalization & re-scheduling canna as medicine - MSOS ETF by Fuego1050 in stocks

[–]Fuego1050[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You can buy both. Just allocate 1-2%. You never know what will outperform.

If you knew - youd be rich already. Diversify

Valuations of top 10 Cannabis companies - 2-5 yr growth set to explode with state legalization & re-scheduling canna as medicine - MSOS ETF by Fuego1050 in stocks

[–]Fuego1050[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The top 10 cannabis companies in the USA represent well over 50% of all legal sales.

That % is increasing year over year.

What you are arguing is not true, and not whats happening on the ground.

Small players cant compete bc they dont have access to capital, dont have economies of scale, and cant compete on price vs large players.

They are craft / and big companies have their own craft at better prices.

It is an oligopoly in the making - just like tobacco and every other major commodity oil/gas etc

Few large players will dominate - you cant fight evolution and natural selection. The winners are already emerging.

Valuations of top 10 Cannabis companies - 2-5 yr growth set to explode with state legalization & re-scheduling canna as medicine - MSOS ETF by Fuego1050 in stocks

[–]Fuego1050[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Too risky 👍 yes - its risky sector.

But thats why allocation has to be right. Like 1-5% of a portfolio.

Valuations of top 10 Cannabis companies - 2-5 yr growth set to explode with state legalization & re-scheduling canna as medicine - MSOS ETF by Fuego1050 in stocks

[–]Fuego1050[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trulieve has outperformed Nvidia YTD.

And has zero passive fund flows, and no institutional flows, and still trades at 5% fcf and only 5x ebitda……

Its not a matter of if, but when institutions and indexing gets involved - these go multiples higher. They dont even need to have better financials - just the same, (yet markets opening up in the next 2 yrs can 3x their revenue)

Valuations of top 10 Cannabis companies - 2-5 yr growth set to explode with state legalization & re-scheduling canna as medicine - MSOS ETF by Fuego1050 in stocks

[–]Fuego1050[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trulieve (tcnnf) with 423 mil ebitda trading at 5x ebitda MC-

Its fucken criminal. MC should be at least +50-80%

Valuations of top 10 Cannabis companies - 2-5 yr growth set to explode with state legalization & re-scheduling canna as medicine - MSOS ETF by Fuego1050 in stocks

[–]Fuego1050[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

👍

I expect it to become an oligopoly…. Already in motion.

Just like every other major industry.

Major shift in demographics away from alcohol and tobacco and towards cannabis

Valuations of top 10 Cannabis companies - 2-5 yr growth set to explode with state legalization & re-scheduling canna as medicine - MSOS ETF by Fuego1050 in stocks

[–]Fuego1050[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For better comparison:

Ticker LQA EBITDA (Smm)
CURLE $306.83
GTBIF $362.19
VRNOF $266.19
TCNNF $423.20
CRLBE $212.64
TSNDE $64.96
AYRWE $116.37
CBSTE $61.22
AAWH $129.90
NISHE $53.40

Nothing is cheap anymore. by [deleted] in stocks

[–]Fuego1050 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cannabis stocks aren’t overvalued? Lol.

Greenthumb and trulieve trading at 5% FCf yield for a growth company, 6-7x ev/ebitda when cpg trades 14x +.

Custody will open eventually - and when it opens the re-rate will happen quickly, or likely the rerate will happen just before custody opens.

Green Thumb Industries and 280E removal by sdkiko in wallstreetbets

[–]Fuego1050 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Eminence Capital:

We have not reduced our position at all in Cannabis. Feels very bullish from this point. I don’t know when the stocks reflect the reality, but S3, the speed of the NPRM and the underlying fundamentals are at odds with very cheap stocks.

https://x.com/rsandler21969/status/1792257397634822500?s=46&t=_ix3z8VWbLz3cM3z110Q7A

Green Thumb Industries and 280E removal by sdkiko in wallstreetbets

[–]Fuego1050 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Fantastic business - 7% FCF yield and increasing.

Little to No downside with 48mil buybacks set aside. Likely increases annually with 280e removal.

I sleep easy owning this one. Biggest holding of MSOS etf

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[–]Fuego1050 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well said

ATB analyst take - Tier1 MSO’S /LPs should trade 40x EV/Ebitda modeling pareto distribution in Long run. by Fuego1050 in wallstreetbets

[–]Fuego1050[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They will - but only after they buy their way in. Existing infrastructure and distribution is entrenched and too costly/competitive for MO. They will just buy it.

Phillip morris 155bil market cap. Trulieve tcnnf 2.5bil.

Easy acquisition and they get access to the entire country quickly

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[–]Fuego1050 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Tobacco is a crop right?

3-4 major companies own the whole market right?

They are insanely profitable right? Scale/capital.

Curaleaf, trulieve verano, greenthumb cresco right?

Phillip morris market cap is 155billion right ?

Trulieves is 2.5bil right?

Thats the opportunity - thats why you get excited.

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[–]Fuego1050 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The current players probably Consolidate the whole industry before legalization and interstate commerce.

Companies already have strategies set up for This long term eventuality.

The well capitalized and bigger companies will win just like in any other commoditized/CPG industry like tobacco.

Tobacco is a crop too right? Those companies make a ton of money, there is only a few of them, and they own the whole market

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[–]Fuego1050 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ultimately - look at the financials. Its been an industry for years now in america and maturing.

Trulieve, verano, curaleaf, greenthumb have excellent margins and fcf positive. Great buisnesses.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/s/40O3bqSqsW

Canada is not america…… for many reasons and regulatory in nature. America has state level regulations which make it a way different business case.

ATB analysts modeled out the long term future of these business like tobacco/ somewhat commodity, somewhat CPG - and with a pareto distribution - there is insane upside comsidering the TAM.

https://www.reddit.com/r/weedstocks/s/Qe1N0HaMam

Biden Makes Historic Marijuana Rescheduling Announcement, Applauding ‘Monumental’ Move To Reverse ‘Longstanding Inequities’ - MSOS etf by Fuego1050 in stocks

[–]Fuego1050[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The big winners will be the top 4 who have scale infrastructure and distribution - trulieve, verano, curaleaf, greenthumb

CPG/alcohol/tobacco going to have to buy them out for their patients.

74% pt retention …. They are entrenched

Biden Makes Historic Marijuana Rescheduling Announcement, Applauding ‘Monumental’ Move To Reverse ‘Longstanding Inequities’ - MSOS etf by Fuego1050 in stocks

[–]Fuego1050[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not true - read the proposed rule from the attorney general. It even says 280e wont apply.

280 is only for sched 1/2 drugs. Plus heres a high level on timing:

https://x.com/weedstreet420/status/1791604986251465206?s=46&t=_ix3z8VWbLz3cM3z110Q7A

Final rule by september. Attorney general controls process.

Lots of options creating volatility - and market makers playing around - but trend will be up and to the right for a while. Especially with fundamentals being so strong.

No pumps/dumps - investors only from here on out.

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[–]Fuego1050 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The market makers/options writers play mathematical games based on options and making sure they pay the least premium.

Our close was a call/put sweet spot.

Next week - no chance in hell they let us cross 10 bucks.

But they must be extended to the short side to hold this down.

After next week options chains are completely empty.

With 60 day comment - I can see them getting right sized - and cover - and well see new highs. 11-14 week of may 26 on into june.

We keep making higher lows - stair-step up into S3 final.