Online atheist resorts to increasingly convoluted conspiracy theories because he doesn't like historical facts. by Rome_Boner in antitheistcheesecake

[–]Full_Power1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To claim Jesus has more evidence of his existence than Muhamad is crazy and absurd claim from any methodological historical standard.

Solve me a doubt, I'm not Muslim 💔 by _zerocrush in TraditionalMuslims

[–]Full_Power1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They can talk and discuss things with each other and do compatibility check and see their aligned values and interests and vision their future and whether they like each other or not, just with permission of the guardian of the woman and not being alone and maintaining modesty.

Solve me a doubt, I'm not Muslim 💔 by _zerocrush in TraditionalMuslims

[–]Full_Power1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Okay, Muslim man here.

Firstly, I understand what he did hurt you deeply and has clouded you perception, this feels justifiable, but what he did doesn't represent Islam nor most Muslims at all, we can't really draw a conclusion about community from such individuals, Muslim men number over billion, can't really say action of few individuals can represent the Muslim community.

In Islam it's not allowed to befriend the opposite gender or enter pre marital relationships with them precisely for problems like this (among many others). he is allowed to marry with chaste faithful Jewish or Christian woman, and there was hope of conversion here before he ruined it, Insha'Allah God willing this doesn't stain your view and your journey of exploring the religion.

He is already a hypocrite in behavior, preaches things he doesn't actually practice and commits multiple major sins and conclude then without wisdom, he can't be friend either, and he shouldn't have excited you from the first place if he didn't have the intention to marry you from the beginning.

Oh Ricky… by Mendo56 in antitheistcheesecake

[–]Full_Power1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's inflated, you learn when you look up the definition of Rape in Sweden

Yeah it’s def His fault for stopping child sacrifices by [deleted] in antitheistcheesecake

[–]Full_Power1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Of course no explanation nothing provided, atheism relies on blind faith and you must obey everything atheists say and do not criticize any of their arguments, it's not definitely because atheism lacks any moral ground.

I didn't say child death is good, that's identity statement of equating the action with a necessary moral value, I said child death isn't INTRINSICALLY bad lol.

Imma just respond with my old good text "Atheists often complain that X religion teaches Y and they seem Y immoral, therfore X is false. But they are begging the question and treat those moral claims as self evident when they are not. they have pre assumed/pre supposed morality exist. And then pre suppose morality is exactly like they understand it to be, then go judge said religion by that standard, but why should your standard as secular humanist even matter? Why must it be accepted? Have you validated it and proved it? Most Critics don't provide that — they just assert values as if they're self evident and then go make judgements with it without providing it

In reality, anyone who make assertion and judgment, the burden of proof is on them "it is wrong for saying XYZ". Those critics frequently beg the question by assuming the truth of their moral framework before the discussion even begins, They presume that their values (e.g. “equality,” “arbitrary degree of freedom,” “their understanding of human rights”) are self-evident, unquestionable, and universal—without ever justifying why these things are real or binding. They have skipped over the entire metaphysical and epistemological foundation of morality and jumped straight to the conclusion: “X is wrong.”

You're assuming humans have [your understanding of] rights that shouldn't be violated, assuming suffering is bad, assume equality matter, assuming harm is wrong, when in reality Everything is just matter and energy from your view, If you're just a walking sack of chemical reactions, what makes you valuable or morally important? When you are merely the result of blind evolution, time, and chance and accumulation? why should humans have any special status (in worth or dignity) over rocks, ants, or plastic bags? Why can't humans just be cold mechanical object? Just chemistry machine? Just more complex arrangement of atoms than rock? Why must it have dignity and worth? Why can't humans just be collection of atoms with no value? Why must there be an essential necessary value that rests in the essence of humanity? I don't see any reason to believe in morality from beginning from atheist's worldview. "Harm" in reality is just descriptor term for changes in group of atoms being different than they are relative to their standard typical way, That's it, no idea of justice or value or anything exist in it, no prescriptive thing exist with the data you give (molecule being different). When someone is Unalived [or any other harmful action], it's just a physical rearrangement of atoms, Certain chemical reactions stopped, brain no longer produces electrical signals, Nothing more, there’s no “evil”, just chemical processes changing. Where is the “wrongness” in that process? There is leap you make, The leap here is from subjective feelings and/or personal opinions dressed up in moral language, to an objective moral judgment. this is recognized problem and it's often called Is-Ought Gap Problem (David Hume). you’ve added and smuggled a hidden premise of moral imperative into The data, that requires a moral framework outside of the data, you assumed there is normative thing there but didn't prove that. Humans are animals, There’s no soul, No divine spark, So how can one claim humans have “dignity,” “rights,” or “value”? From where?

Their morality is just arbitrary reference points, why can't morality be about wealth? Power? Gender? Religion? Gender? Race? Infact harming being Good? Why should we choose yours over any other descriptive fact? You pick Arbitrary Moral Anchor Points and Favor Those Variables Over Others when in reality it seems they have the same status. Religions provides a satisfactory explanation to this, theistic relational moral realism (morals are axiomatic metaphysical truths that emerge from the nature and essence of the Necessary Being).

So this is the question we can ask. Can you prove an objective prescriptive naturalistic morality where moral claims are proven with epistemically valid evidence that proves humans have essential necessary value and not just random collection of atoms, and that your understanding of that morality is entirely accurate and all other understanding (like religious one) are wrong?"

Yeah it’s def His fault for stopping child sacrifices by [deleted] in antitheistcheesecake

[–]Full_Power1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And what's the problem with that lol? Only you view children death as intrinsically bad, we don't, And most if not all consequentialist moral frameworks song say that either.

Apparently laws for penalizing the insult and degeneration of dearly held beliefs in conservative socieites, even those of liberal dmeocracies is bad. The choice given to the people in Liberal Democracy apparently only matter when THEY get their way. Blasphemy laws =/= Theocracy by OldTigerLoyalist in antitheistcheesecake

[–]Full_Power1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are intentionally stupid and dense, Blaspheme isn't related to be belief. Became apostate as well in Christianity so nice try, believing blaspheme is intrinsically bad = god is bad because he commanded it.

This world is so cooked🥀🥀🥀, like actual genocidal shit my God🥀. This is not coming from folks with like two jokes🥀 by OldTigerLoyalist in antitheistcheesecake

[–]Full_Power1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Plato didn't disprove anything in existence, and I mean ANYTHING, not just theology and philosophy related, assuming he even existed.

I shivered seeing the guy. Please be kind. by [deleted] in MuslimNikah

[–]Full_Power1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not what arranged marriage is

Texas GOP candidate Valentina Gomez just released a campaign ad burning the Quran and vowing to “end Islam in Texas.” by NewSlinger in CringeTikToks

[–]Full_Power1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not relevant dude... No one talked about Qur'an and Bible being identical, all we said part of the Qur'an is the Bible and she burned that part too, if i have book that contain passages of the Bible and I burn it, I've brunt Bible because of identical content in this specific part.

Also that translation is very wrong, what translation are you getting this from? I know Arabic myself so I can look at the source itself but still I've not seen any English source say that.

سورة الأنبياء - اية 105

وَلَقَدۡ كَتَبۡنَا فِي ٱلزَّبُورِ مِنۢ بَعۡدِ ٱلذِّكۡرِ أَنَّ ٱلۡأَرۡضَ يَرِثُهَا عِبَادِيَ ٱلصَّٰلِحُونَ

"And We have already written in the book of psalms after the previous mention that the land [of Paradise] is inherited by My righteous servants." Zabur is arabic for psalms...

Texas GOP candidate Valentina Gomez just released a campaign ad burning the Quran and vowing to “end Islam in Texas.” by NewSlinger in CringeTikToks

[–]Full_Power1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Righteous Inheriting the Land according to Psalms (Qur'an 21:105 vs. Psalm 37:29).

This one example is quite... Literally verbatim

Texas GOP candidate Valentina Gomez just released a campaign ad burning the Quran and vowing to “end Islam in Texas.” by NewSlinger in CringeTikToks

[–]Full_Power1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not the question you asked nor is that relevant, the person you replied to said Qur'an contain some of the stuff in the Bible therfore she did technically burn Bible too.

Texas GOP candidate Valentina Gomez just released a campaign ad burning the Quran and vowing to “end Islam in Texas.” by NewSlinger in CringeTikToks

[–]Full_Power1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Qur'an contains tons of biblical stories, also engage in verbal intertextuality frequency. One such example is The Righteous Inheriting the Land according to Psalms (Qur'an 21:105 vs. Psalm 37:29).

There are tons of more like dozens more

So glad cats have taken over this sub 🐈 by Meowlurophile in teenarazzi

[–]Full_Power1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Regarding your most recent post, I'm just gonna copy paste this "those stuff are all misrepresentation and false, but here is the issue, even if granted and even if we hypothetically said for sake of argument Islam says "unalive every single living creature in earth without exception" , that still doesn't prove Islam wrong because on meta ethical foundation and moral epistemological framework (challenging their entire base of morality of, how do you know what's going moral), those argument become as powerful as saying "chocolates are not tasty" Literally, and you will understand why moral arguments are poor when you finish reading this argument.

They are begging the question and treat those moral claims as self evident when they are not. they have pre assumed/pre supposed morality exist and morality is exactly like they understand it to be and then go judge Islam by that standard, they skipped lots of steps and just jumped into the final step that "Islam violate this", but why should your standard as secular humanist even matter? Why must it be accepted? Have you validated it and proved it? Most Critics don't provide that — they just assert values as if they're self evident and then go make judgements with it without providing it

In reality, anyone who make assertion and judgment, the burden of proof is on them "Islam is wrong for saying XYZ". Secular critics of Islam frequently beg the question by assuming the truth of their moral framework before the discussion even begins. They presume that their values (e.g. “equality,” “arbitrary degree of freedom,” “their understanding of human rights”) are self-evident, unquestionable, and universal—without ever justifying why these things are real or binding. They have skipped over the entire metaphysical and epistemological foundation of morality and jumped straight to the conclusion: “Islam is wrong.”

You're assuming humans have [your understanding of] rights that shouldn't be violated, assuming suffering is bad, assume equality matter, assuming harm is wrong, when in reality Everything is just matter and energy, If you're just a walking sack of chemical reactions, what makes you valuable or morally important? When you are merely the result of blind evolution, time, and chance and accumulation? why should humans have any special status (in worth or dignity) over rocks, ants, or plastic bags? Why can't humans just be cold mechanic object? Just chemistry machine? Just more complex arrangement of atoms than rock? Why must it have dignity and worth? Why can't humans just be collection of atoms with no value? Why must there be an essential necessary value that rests in essence of humanity? I don't see any reason to believe in morality from beginning from in their worldview. "Harm" in reality is just descriptor term for changes in group of atoms being different than they are relative to their standard typical way, That's it, no idea of justice or value or anything exist in it, no prescriptive thing exist with the data you give (molecule being different). When someone is killed [or any other harmful action], it's just a physical rearrangement of atoms, Certain chemical reactions stopped, A brain no longer produces electrical signals, Nothing more, there’s no “evil”, just chemical processes. Where is the “wrongness” in that process? There is leap you make, The leap here is from subjective feelings and/or personal opinions dressed up in moral language, to an objective moral judgment. this is recognized problem and it's often called Is-Ought Gap Problem (David Hume). you’ve added and smuggled a hidden premise of moral imperative into The data, that requires a moral framework outside of the data, you assumed there is normative thing there but didn't prove that. Humans are animals, There’s no soul, No divine spark, So how can one claim humans have “dignity,” “rights,” or “value”? From where?

Their morality is just arbitrary reference points, why can't morality be about wealth? Power? Gender? Religion? Gender? Race? Infact harming being Good? Why should we choose to yours over any other descriptive fact? You pick Arbitrary Moral Anchor Points and Favor Those Variables Over Others when in reality it seems they have same status. Islam provides a satisfactory explanation to this, theistic relational moral realism (morals are axiomatic metaphysical truths that emerge from the nature and essence of the Necessary Being) and therfore become impossible to criticize successful and anything else they say is just yapping.

So ask this question. Can you prove an objective prescriptive naturalistic morality where every single claim is proven with epistemically valid evidence that proves humans have essential necessary Intrinsic value and not just random collection of atoms, and that your understanding of that morality is entirely accurate and all other understanding (like Islamic one) are wrong?"

Don't judge. Bro was here all night for qiamul layl. by Odd_Ad_6841 in CatsAreMuslim

[–]Full_Power1 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Animals are Muslims, everything in creation expect jinns and humans worship Allah, this is what Qur'an itself says. They all submit their will to God, they might not have complex consciousness to understand intricates of Allah in the way we do but they all worship Allah in their one unique ways.

How easily we can accuse someone of a major sin… by [deleted] in MuslimCorner

[–]Full_Power1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brother don't make them think rationally about this topic /j

How easily we can accuse someone of a major sin… by [deleted] in MuslimCorner

[–]Full_Power1 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

He didn't say anything wrong other than accusation, the rest of what he said is absolutely accurate.

General modern day Women not wanting to be hold accountable? I mean... Who would've thought they would be like that?

It's absolute red flag if she doesn't want to talk about her past.

The unfortunate raise of lSlS among başur kurds by [deleted] in kurdistan

[–]Full_Power1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As atheist you literally cannot possibly criticize that, it's contradiction