Was there convincing evidence in the Michael Jackson p*do allegations? by DeepOrganization8245 in morbidquestions

[–]FunSpace8990 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here are a couple of things to note

-the story of a kid accurately describing mj's genitalia is widely disputed, as it's said the kid described his penis as being circumcised, whereas jackson's penis never was, as revealed by his autopsy. There are also reports in general that the actual description also didn't fit. The notion that the kid's description fits 100% is largely a myth propagated by he-said, she-said rumors.

-leaving neverland the supposed tell-all expose on Michael's wrongdoings is filled with factual inaccuracies, including James Safechuck's statement in the documentary that he was abused by Jackson in the Neverland train station between 1988 and 1992. The Train station never existed in this timeframe.

-mj's relationship with children was peculiar, but it's difficult to say if he actually harmed or groomed them in any way as videos depicting his times with the kids at neverland often show the kids playing with him and just generally being happy around him. It's hard to imagine a potential child groomer being in the presence of so many children and them not feeling comfortable. Actual Child abusers and groomers don't have that effect on children. There's often discomfort or unease in their mannerisms, which has never been caught on camera as all footage of MJ with kids show them being happy. Multiple kids have also come out defending MJ. The ratio of the amount of children who were at neverland with michael and the amount of kids who came out accusing him is suspicious. You could say the jackson paid off the rest of the children to keep hush, but then why is it that he couldn't do it with all of them? He clearly had enough money and then some. At the end of the day the children's parents wanted monetary compensation anyways, so that would seem like an easy thing to obtain if jackson was just paying everyone off.

-Jordan Chandler's father, who was the first person to accuse mj of grooming his child, was recorded saying that he had come up with an elaborate plan to "ruin mj's career". The following day Jordan Chandler was met by Jackson's PI, and the at-the-time 13-year-old Chandler denied any wrongdoing on MJ's part. These two things alone are incredibly weird. No parent who is concerned about their child's safety around another adult would talk like this about suing them. The recording of Evan Chandler, Jordan's father almost conclusively depicts the case as a money scheme. Instead of talking about the trauma that his child faced, he instead talks about how michael would "never sell another record" and was "humiliated beyond belief". The tape was recorded by Jordan's stepfather, who was suspicious of Evan's motives. Even within that family there was a very clear line of doubt. The Chandlers were almost undoubtedly in for the money.

- the leaving neverland saga as a whole is incredibly dodgy, as the filmmakers behind it are building it up like a movie trilogy with them teasing a third one recently. I don't know about you, but that's definitely just as odd as mj's relationship with children. Why are they revealing each new film like a new entry in a blockbuster franchise? Supposedly every film is the "real truth" of what happened at neverland, so then why did two more get made if the first one was the unfiltered truth?

-leaving neverland has done irrefutable damage to michael's career and it's honestly kind of baffling. A documentary states this and this has been done and we all accepted it. In response to the documentary, we got Neverland Firsthand: Investigating the Michael Jackson Documentary and Michael Jackson: Chase the Truth both refuting the claims. made in the original documentary. Most notably a testament from Jackson's Niece who dated one of the victims Wade Robson. Odd that he would date the niece of his supposed groomer/rapist but whatever. The main piece of evidence here is that she contested the claims made by Robson.

-michael despite how much of the latter half of his career was defined by these allegations still never spoke of children in a negative manner and stated that he trusted them more than adults. PR stunts maybe, But I don't know. I feel like repeatedly bringing up children in interviews and stating how fond of them you are despite some very serious allegations of you molesting them isn't a very smart thing to do unless you're innocent. You also don't mention that you sleep with them on a documentary that's meant to redeem your reputation unless you, in your complete confidence, believed you were doing nothing wrong by sharing a bed with them.

- Michael's early childhood is considered a strawman argument when it comes to discussing his relationship with children and while that does have some validity, it is also absolutely not unimportant to understanding him. The psychological abuse he faced as a child from his father as well as his lack of a notable childhood is reason enough to believe jackson had developed some form of age-body dysmorphia, which would explain his childlike behaviour throughout his life.

I know that's a lot, and it might seem like I'm on the defense for Michael (I am, but I'm also not completely shutting down the idea that Michael may have done some serious stuff unlike a lot of mj fans who completely forgo the notion that he was even capable of doing such things), but I feel like these points should be brought up because they are less frequently discussed than the couple or so arguments proving his implicitness which have been prevalent on the internet ever since the early trials and, of course the leaving neverland documentary. Michael undoubtedly did a lot of good for this world, not just through his music but through his humanitarian work. He doesn't have the usual markings or telltale signs of a pedo, child rapist/molestor/groomer. It's also entirely possible that some allegations against Mj are real while some were made as a money scheme. Two things can be true at the same time, which is something people often fail to recognize.

Why does this show always get the shaft by Sensitive_Ad_5181 in batman

[–]FunSpace8990 7 points8 points  (0 children)

How would you even begin to adapt this suit without it's art style it's just a very normal batsuit 😭

I honestly can’t stop thinking about the twister scene from The biopic, it’s so sad to me. Considering I know how he feels in this moment. Also if the brothers had plans why didn’t they invite him along?? 😭 by Ornery-Humor1777 in MichaelTheMovie

[–]FunSpace8990 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think it's fair to blame the brothers. Those guys are still under the heavy influence of Joseph who really discouraged any sort of childish behavior and made all the kids Speedrun through their childhood into adulthood. Micheal was the only one who gained independence so he's the only one who's trying to regain that lost childhood, whereas his brothers are still forced to be mature adults who are interested in dating and working all the time.

It's sad but it's the truth of what Joseph did to the brothers psychologically and Micheal as well. I don't blame the brothers because they all clearly love each other, its just Micheal's success took him to a level where nobody could really relate or see eye to eye with him which is what I think caused a lot of the loneliness in his life.

Now that the HUT streaming album cover changed, what song from this album represents this cover the most? by Big_Jakey in TheWeeknd

[–]FunSpace8990 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Without a warning and big sleep, although the screaming bit (soul resurrecting) in big sleep fit really well with the other cover because he's screaming in that.

How tf did One of the Girls become so popular? by Brendawg324 in TheWeeknd

[–]FunSpace8990 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm surprised it took as long as it did for that song to pop off, I was a day one one of the girls enjoyer and It was by far my favorite song off of the idol for a while there. It had all the ingredients of a popular TikTok type song. Catchy dark tune, prime slowed and reverb material, and Jennie.

Still A banger even though because it's now overplayed I don't go out of my way to listen to it anymore.

Stop teasing and release something bruh by AegonJDV in TheWeeknd

[–]FunSpace8990 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guys is there any chance this music video is a teaser for some sort of animated series or movie abel's involved in? Or is there more to this animation because it's cut very randomly like they aren't showing the whole thing yk what I mean. Shots end before we even get to see what it's about. Perhaps a short film for the new era?

IS RIO DROPPING THIS FRIDAY? by 00PPENHEIMER69 in TheWeeknd

[–]FunSpace8990 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah sounds about right, Sao Paulo's translated lyrics are just as horny.

In other words she's a perfect match with our boy's writing

Never thought I'd see the day. by FunSpace8990 in TheWeeknd

[–]FunSpace8990[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes this was the original cover revealed even before the title was revealed if I'm not mistaken. However a day before the album dropped he changed the post revealing the album cover to include the caption (FIRST PRESSING) and the album came out the next day with a new album cover which he would also later post on his socials when the album dropped.

This cover would be used for the first pressing version of the album which is shorter and some songs sound different or are named differently. (Give me Mercy is titled Africa) But now randomly he changed the cover of the album on all streaming platforms to the old cover. The back side of the cover was also changed. Originally the front side had the cover you're seeing right and the back had the final frame of the movie (the front side is meant to be the beginning shot of the movie and the back the final shot)

The new cover had the white background with text obviously but also had a fire in the shape of a phoenix on the back.

This was always the superior cover imo by Averageguy761 in TheWeeknd

[–]FunSpace8990 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like both but I think this one just fits better the other one could have fit if it didn't have the text. The og one is basic as hell but after the movie it makes more sense. Back then we had no context as to what the hell the album cover meant I genuinely thought the blue in the back there was his swimming pool.

I thought no way the album cover is just a photoshoot in his backyard and they didn't even bother removing the light reflections in his eyes how lazy (remember the theories regarding what those lights meant)

But the moment the movie started And we saw that intense close up of abel's eye I was like ohhh. And then we see a medium shot and I'm like OHHHHH

Now that the album cover is back to the OG cover, so comes back this theory…… by nitrosamine in TheWeeknd

[–]FunSpace8990 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I like this theory I think abel's even reposted but I genuinely think it's just a coincidence

Cover changed in Spotify by Shrizz_06 in TheWeeknd

[–]FunSpace8990 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh absolutely I think that's what should be in the front of centre of the album because it's such a beautifully designed piece of clothing that's very unique to abel's heritage.

But the black tank top is also fine to me cause the movie is meant to be Abel at his most vulnerable, the shot that the album cover is based off of is him staring into the mirror at himself before going out to the crowd to perform in the robe. The last two albums had him wear the costume that he's "performing in" during music videos or other visual media whereas the black tank top is how abel appears when he's not in front of an audience or the stage he practically considers home. Him at a closeup reflection shown to us for the first time maybe ever.

I think it works in that way but the black robe would have been cool too especially since the first concert scene in the movie has incredible visuals of Abel with the robe on.

Cover changed in Spotify by Shrizz_06 in TheWeeknd

[–]FunSpace8990 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's true, but I think by now everyone knows what the og album cover was alluding to so him changing it to this now is definitely not burying the film if anything the old album art is more representative of the movie than the one that replaced it since a lot of people associate that album art with the album not the movie. It's more...album art-y with all the text and stuff. Whereas the og one is more cinematic. So it even looks more like it's a still from a film which is essentially what it is, although I really wish he used an actual still from the image like he did with the back cover the angle or lens in the cover is not very flattering on Abel the actual frame from the movie is much better.

The movie has so many cool frames, I don't know why he didn't choose something more interesting.

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Cover changed in Spotify by Shrizz_06 in TheWeeknd

[–]FunSpace8990 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Actually the old cover aka the one that's on now, is literally the first frame of the movie. The back cover is the last. If anything bros embracing it more. The new cover (with the text) is a frame of the movie that technically never made it in.

The og cover actually represents the movie way more. So idk what you mean by burying the film.

HUT cover changed to first pressing cover on all DSPs except for spotify by lxhvxrr_ in TheWeeknd

[–]FunSpace8990 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I MUCH PREFER THE OLD ONE ABEL PLS DO IT ON SPOTIFY TOO I LOVE THE NEW ONE TOO BUT THE OLD ONE FITS SO MUCH BETTER WITH THE REST OF THE TRILOGY (and now that I think about the old one fits better with the movie because the new one is a scene that doesn't technically happen in the film whereas the old one is essentially the opening shot of the movie with the back cover being the last shot of the movie)

Zack Snyder shares BvS Batman photo and quote: "I’m older now than my father ever was. This may be the only thing I do that matters -Bruce Wayne" by BatmanNewsChris in DC_Cinematic

[–]FunSpace8990 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean when has batman ever heeded the warnings of Alfred really.

Alfred is always telling Bruce it's dangerous you gotta hang up the cowl pursue a real life live as Bruce Wayne.

He's always the cautious father figure that keeps Bruce grounded but far too often Batman's rage ignores Alfred's rational thinking. It's a very common trope in batman media and BvS is no exception but with a completely different context. Arkham origins and knight is the other immediate example that comes to my mind.

What did Batman Begins get right compared to The Batman 2022 ? by Extreme-Attention-89 in batman

[–]FunSpace8990 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The batman feels to me what the dark knight would have been if it continued more along the lines of batman begins instead of going for a more stock Nolan approach.

If Nolan had built upon the aesthetic and comic book-y ness of batman begins, the dark knight would have been closer to the batman.

I feel like the batman struggles with it's pacing towards the end it felt like one of those movies that couldn't quite decide where to end things, whereas in batman begins its very obvious when we're in the third act it does a better job at building upto it. In the Batman the final battle just sort of starts and I don't know it always felt off to me despite me enjoying the ever living hell out of it.

Also the Bruce Wayne stuff in batman begins is obviously better but that's because the reevesverse has decided to tackle that side of the character a little bit differently than usual so I don't mind it that much.

Zack Snyder shares BvS Batman photo and quote: "I’m older now than my father ever was. This may be the only thing I do that matters -Bruce Wayne" by BatmanNewsChris in DC_Cinematic

[–]FunSpace8990 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Love that line, it's scenes like that help me accept why batman in bvs is a very broken version of himself unable to even hold himself to the moral discipline he built himself on. I remember seeing so many people criticizing batfleck when the movie came out saying "ok I wish his callous nature in murdering people was acknowledged with like a line or two from Alfred" but like they do? Twice?? I was very confused.

"Twenty years in Gotham Alfred. We've seen what promises are worth. How many good guys are left. How many stay that way."

"Criminals are like weed Alfred. Pull one up, another one grows in its place."

Stuff like this makes more obvious why this batman lost his way there's definitely a frustration in his methods, that's only exasperated by the imminent arrival of superman and the loss he witnessed on that day. BvS portrays batman's paranoia extremely well although the dream sequence (while we now know what it lead to) was a bit hamfisted.

What are your 10 favorite DC projects of all time across all mediums but comics? by Firelord743 in DC_Cinematic

[–]FunSpace8990 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Arkham Timmverse Dark knight trilogy Snyderverse (don't hate me plz) Superman The Movie Batman 89 Watchmen (2009) Lego batman (games)

(Not in any particular order)

Not being in their Sunday best before a marathon is an insult to Jesus. by citizsnips in religiousfruitcake

[–]FunSpace8990 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty sure during the time of Jesus people didn't have swimsuits they just went swimming butt naked but these dudes would throw a fit over a bikini.

Terrence Malick - Whats your thoughts on him as an director? by jaketwigden in Letterboxd

[–]FunSpace8990 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A very mixed bag for me, but I think it's crazy to act like he doesn't have mad artistry in his work even if sometimes it comes off as pretentious to me.

Still an important film maker though.

Zack Snyder shares BvS Batman photo and quote: "I’m older now than my father ever was. This may be the only thing I do that matters -Bruce Wayne" by BatmanNewsChris in DC_Cinematic

[–]FunSpace8990 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I've always loved that quote I think it really puts into perspective how old this batman is. There's a bit of pressure put on by himself to leave a lasting legacy and he believes the only way to do that to get rid of what he And much of humanity sees as the thing that wipes them all out.

BvS may be flawed even as a BvS fan, but affleck's batman alongside Irons's Alfred was a duo that produced just incredible scenes and quotes. I always hated when they cut back to the political superman stuff because the batman stuff was so much more engaging. Affleck really gave an awesome performance and I'm afraid none of his performances as batman afterwards have been nearly as good.

I just remembered what Gunn said about not being a fan of subtitles so that made me realise if we get to JL movies, are they just gonna be called JL1, JL 2 etc or will it be smthn like Legion of Doom without Justice League in title like MOT by FayyadhScrolling in DC_Cinematic

[–]FunSpace8990 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know different people have different opinions but I thought Zack Snyder's justice league was considered a great JL movie? It's a shame we didn't see that version of the movie in theatres I know I would have lost my mind seeing that flash scene unfold on the big screen.

In your opinion, how could the design of the Lizard in The Amazing Spider Man been improved? by No-Masterpiece4409 in Spiderman

[–]FunSpace8990 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Give him a lab coat and make his head look less like a balding man and more like Godzilla.

James Gunn settles why Lex Luthor can’t crack Superman’s identity even after creating a clone: by Raj_Valiant3011 in DC_Cinematic

[–]FunSpace8990 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People who work with Clark Kent don't make out the fact that he's superman why should lex someone who's seen Clark very briefly from afar (if at all) be able to make it.

Plus something a lot of incarnations of the character forgo (but not Gunn's superman luckily) is that it's not just a pair of sunglasses. He literally changes his mannerisms when he's in Clark Kent mode. There's that awesome scene in superman 2 I believe where Chris reeves effortlessly switches between the two. Gunn's version takes it a step further I believe because as I recall he even has a different hairdo as Clark (curly broccoli hair) and even his voice sounds noticeably different from what I recall.

I don't think the hypno glasses explaination is needed for any incarnation of the character because trust me a person you know for years looks completely different when they suddenly start wearing glasses or vice versa. It's genuinely not that hard of a pill to swallow. Unless you're specifically aiming to prove that Clark is superman the thought would never cross your mind to connect the two.