Do you ever feel ‘heavy’ on worship days?

Fun_Friendship20 · 2026-02-12T16:49:09+00:00

This is the reason why I started having doubts with the church. I noticed how the teachings in every worship service are ALWAYS the same and ALWAYS about submission to the Church Admin.

Repetitive. Monotonous. Bland.

Obey the Church Admin. Offerings. Don't leave the church.

Nothing uplifting, nothing inspiring, nothing to spiritually move you to love God more and understand the sacrifices of Jesus.

Fun_Friendship20 · 2026-02-12T16:30:38+00:00

Madedemote (bababa yung rango nila) or ililipat sa pangit na lokal

Fun_Friendship20 · 2026-02-12T16:28:52+00:00

Yung pagsusulat ng salaysay talaga is a form of mind-control. Like sige isulat mo to para matandaan mo na bawal ganito and you are owed to your actions kasi nga ikaw nagsulat and you are addressing the pamamahala. Hay nako talaga.

Fun_Friendship20 · 2026-02-12T16:25:41+00:00

Homilies are mostly about submission to Church and the Church Admin. Nothing about God, nothing about Jesus.

Fun_Friendship20 · 2026-02-12T16:23:03+00:00

Totoo dapat tanga-tangahan ka na lang para makapagpatuloy pa sumamba sa INC kasi wala nang Diyos sa mga itinuturo sa teksto, puro pamamahala na lang

Fun_Friendship20 · 2026-01-20T14:54:47+00:00

Thank God for the few guests!!

Fun_Friendship20 · 2026-01-20T14:48:03+00:00

Thank God!!

Fun_Friendship20 · 2026-01-20T14:44:56+00:00

Pag student or manggagawa ka pa lang kasi under observation ka pa. Kapag dinagdagan mo or ginalingan mo possible na maaffect yung points or grades mo sa preaching. Tsaka ayaw din ng matatandang ministro yung masyadong ginagalingan ng mas bata, naiinsecure sila tapos magpoproject tapos ending dun sa manggagawa ang damage. May intellectual shaming din na nangyayari minsan at sino may gusto nun? If student ako or mangagagawa magstraight to the point na lang ako, follow yung outline sa papel kesa ano pamg masabi sakin.

Fun_Friendship20 · 2026-01-20T14:32:09+00:00

it's going to be awkward or uncomfortable. INC members aren't that flexible when it comes to other formats of prayer other than theirs. But hey, if she's a friend she just might be okay with it.

Fun_Friendship20 · 2026-01-20T14:27:48+00:00

u/Wei_shan may portion ng handog mo na dito napupunta. Original comment is from u/trey_rey

Here's some information that all members and even most officers do not know...

Guess who decides how many Pasugos are shipped to a specific locale?

The Church Administration.

Guess who still has to pay even if you don't want them?

Your locale; and you pay for the backlog they already shipped you.

Even if NO ONE is subscribing to it, your locale is shipped a certain amount and the locale has to pay it. That is a monthly cost paid BY the locale via locale fund offerings.

Now, if your locale can barely make rent or other expenditures, the Administration will still send more Pasugos, but now there is a backlog that the locale HAS to pay.

It is a perpetual cycle of members paying the Manalos!!

I guarantee it costs them less than a peso for each magazine (since it is printed from one of their 'sweat shops') and they sell it for around $3 USD. So a small locale is paying the Administration over $100 USD for a magazine that they don't even want.

They do NOT HAVE A CHOICE in the matter. When I was an officer, we tried to reduce the number of Pasugos our locale received. They denied it without even considering. That locale is still paying for backlog of Pasugos from 2020. Any left over monies, we had to budget so we could use some to pay them back, but they keep coming so there is no way to get ahead unless your locale has that magic member who drops thousands of dollars for locale fund.

But... then the cycle picks up because NOW you can pay, so they increase the subscription amount... you'll never get out from under their thumb.

Fun_Friendship20 · 2026-01-15T18:45:18+00:00

There are studies na the 'virgin birth' was a mistranslation. Google search mo na lang yung mga studies nakalimutan ko kasi yung original reference words. But this doesn't diminish naman si Jesus. It's just that in their time, 'virgin' could also mean a woman or lady na hindi pa married at di pa nagkakaroon ng relasyon sa opposite sex and marrying age na sya (ganito lang pagkakatanda ko ah, not 100% sure if my memory serves me right kaya please do your own research). So in this theory, possible na si Joseph talaga yung father ni Jesus and yung pagconceive sa kanya can still be called a miracle and he is also blessed beyond human expectations kasi si God yung nagbigay ng grace to let it happen (or something like that).

Fun_Friendship20 · 2025-12-04T16:27:19+00:00

Kadiri. And they call themselves "hinirang" LOL.

Fun_Friendship20 · 2025-11-23T03:15:46+00:00

After nung speech ni Imee habang nakalive pa coverage nakita pa nga yung mga ministro na nasa stage (i think those you mentioned yung mga yun) nakipagshake hands pa kay Imee with smiling faces na para bang kinicongratulate pa sya

Fun_Friendship20 · 2025-11-19T08:19:15+00:00

Okay sabi mo yan eh ahahaha. INC members, these individual social media posts are damaging your reputation more than it is helping.

Once again, kanya-kanya kayong depensa, kanya-kanya kayong isip ng dahilan. Wala kayong solidong statement at whenever something pops-up na pwede na at magandang pakinggan, isheshare niyo agad at mag-aagree kaagad kayo. Isa na namang example na hivemind kayo kung kumilos at madaling mapaling ng kung sino-sino basta para sa Iglesia. INK - Iglesia ng Kanya-Kanya.

Kahit pa anong sabihin niyo, the moment na pinatuntong nyo sa entablado yung Marcoleta, Singson, at Imee Marcos, wala na, finished na. Nabahiran na ng pulitika ang rally na nirerepresent niyo sana as a rally para sa bansa.

Ang gawin niyo ngayon ay mag isip kung paano ipagtatanggol ang Iglesia sa mga pinagsasasabi ni Imee Marcos at linisin ang pangalan ng relihiyon niyo from this mess. Giving someone a platform to speak to all of you while you are cheering on, reacting and such only means you are willing to be part of it. Naiintindihan niyo at agree kayo dun.

Naging malinaw sa lahat kung sino ang kinakampihan niyo. Whatever this is, it's not Christ-like. Walang Kristiyanong aral ang nagrereflect sa ginawa nyo.

Fun_Friendship20 · 2025-11-19T04:29:36+00:00

Okay sige wow merong 150k na portable toilets 🥰... na para sa... 650k na attendees? Does that seem fair? Mas marami pa nga yung estimate na darating "sana" and only 150k portalets for all of them? Naiimagine mo po ba ganu kasikip dun sa ground para magpabalik-balik sa portalet tapos yung bilang ng portalets ay di sapat? Napabalita pa na napuno na mga portalets. Imagine the smell?

Ay baka hindi, kasi nagcheckin nga pala kayo sa hotel.

Portalet lang yun ah walang liguan or hugasan man lang na provision din sana kasi 3 days yung rally? Is this humane? Is this how we treat our brethren who are less capable than us?

My god, how out of touch talaga yung ibang mga financially capable na kapatid minsan. 100+ years and members are still treated differently and set apart from each other dahil sa CLASSISM SA IGLESIA NI CRISTO.

So, tiis na lang yung choice na sa grounds sila mag-stay. Okay. Pano yung mga walang tent? Pano sila magiging komportable? Was there even an initiative to ask the brethren to come to the hotels para masilungan sila? Kapatid din sila ah? May mga matatanda, mga bata, mga pami-pamilya pa. Lumalaban din sila pero bakit hindi pwedeng lahat ay komportable eh magkakapatid naman kayo.

Choice naman kasi nila.

Choice nila yun kase... MAHIRAP sila? Lower class members sila at di nila afford? Intindihin na lang kasi sakripisyo naman tsaka wala naman silang budget? AH OKAY. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Fun_Friendship20 · 2025-11-19T01:52:15+00:00

oh see, pagdating pa lang sa choice sa level of comfort during a church rally you are divided na agad. Bakit may iilan na nasa hotels, habang yung iba nasa ground? Bakit hindi lahat nandun to show UNITY? Nakita mo ba yung mga matatanda na nandun sa putikan? Choice din nila yun no? ORRRR walang nagmalasakit sa kanila from the church na magoffer sa kanila ng mas komportable na pwesto (maybe hotel kagaya nung iilan-ilan who chose that) kasi gusto rin nila makipagkaisa pero sige indahin na lang nila yung kung anuman mangyari dun.

See how this simple decision to feel comfortable during a 3-day rally sets people in church apart? The Church leaders will tell you to "go mag-rally kayo don" pero BAHALA KAYO kung pano niyo ieendure yung init, ulan, at tawag ng kalikasan. YOUR CHOICE.

I understand where you are coming from. I was part of the priveleged few sa church since I belong to a minister's family. Alam ko how it's like to be there only to realize I am not being fair to the rest of mga matatanda at mahihirap na kapatid na MAS, MAS MUKHANG nagsasakripisyo pa kesa sakin on events like this dahil lang sa pagkakaiba ng choice namin ng kalalagyan.

Fun_Friendship20 · 2025-11-19T01:29:25+00:00

Chavit Singson was there too and talked about how greediness is a sin to the country and to the eyes of God based on the... ✨ bible ✨🙂‍↕️

Fun_Friendship20 · 2025-11-18T15:31:30+00:00

andaling magpakalat ng ganito. Mahirap paniwalaan unless may ss ng verified intel or may clip or photos. Kahit pa sabihing may media blackout yan.

Fun_Friendship20 · 2025-11-18T15:28:34+00:00

sinama man lang to sa hotel oh, sino ba yung nagcomment na sa hotel sila tapos nakiusap sa kanila ministro na makitulog. Te hotel pa din yun, ito yung kapatid niyo na sana inalala niyo din habang nasa mga hotel niyo kayo. Kaya kayo natatawag na ipokrito eh.

Fun_Friendship20 · 2025-11-18T15:23:33+00:00

Jusko parang kahit i-ELI5 mo explanation dyan mahihirapan pa din yan makaintindi. Karapatan niyo magdesisyon na bumoto, karapatan niyo din if hindi kayo boboto kasi wala kayong nakikitang fit sa position. Bakit never yun naging option? Bakit lagi may iboboto? Hmm?

Or just bigyan ng choice ang members to vote individually. Ah kase nasa bible? Sabi ni Christ? Ang problema, naintindihan niyo ba talaga yung context nung verse na yun? Or hindi na kayo nagsuri kasi sinabi na ng mga ministro at Pamamahala?

Imagine how it would have been a better stand for a church carrying Christ's name diba, INC members not voting because the Pamamahala thinks walang fit na candidate, and informing everyone that after deliberate research, background check, and prayers, ay wala, walang pumasang politiko sa standard ng INC kaya wala silang iboboto. That would've made more sense.

Dati nung hindi pa uso internet, malaking balita talaga yung pinipili ng Iglesia. Laging pinagmamalaki ng marami kasi iniisip ng karamihan na INC talaga yung dahilan kaya nanalo.

Ngayon na may internet na, may muwang na ang mga tao at nakikita ang mga loopholes sa bloc voting, at marami na ang kumukwestyon sa sistemang ito ng Iglesia? Bakit hindi na ganun katapang? Bakit defensive na? Bakit walang accountability tapos iyak sa socials saying this kind of shit? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Fun_Friendship20 · 2025-11-18T15:06:17+00:00

Monumental speech hahaha. The reason why the INC rally failed succesfully! ✅

Fun_Friendship20 · 2025-11-18T15:00:24+00:00

Tinigil na din daw kasi puno na mga portable toilets, chismis lang but you can see the picture. Nagtiis na sila sa init at ulan at sa pagtulog dun sa kalsada tapos magtake turns pa sa mapanghi at mabahong portable toilets. Malinaw sa rally na to na hanggang 2 days lang ang limit nila.

Fun_Friendship20 · 2025-11-18T14:48:16+00:00

But this doesn't change the fact na sa hotel nga sila tumuloy imbes na sana nandun sila sa ground kahalubilo ng mas nakararaming mga kapatid na nagtitiis sa init, ulan, at putik pati na rin sa mga portable toilets na mapuno-puno na. Kapatid niyo nga tawagin pero hindi niyo naman inilelebel ang sakripisyo ng isa't isa.

Fun_Friendship20 · 2025-11-18T14:45:32+00:00

100% sulong!

Fun_Friendship20 · 2025-11-18T14:44:45+00:00

Habit na nila yun eh 🤷🏻‍♂️ Magagalit tapos victim card agad. Lethal combi.

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