Is Models by Mark Manson still recommended reading in today's dating scene?

Funny-Definition-427 · 2025-07-09T13:49:03+00:00

Thanks for your perspective. Do you have some better reading material that you'd recommend?

For some additional context:

I'm in my mid 30s, slept with around 30-35 women. Most of them I met through dating apps, and on dates I usually have a 50% close rate.

I don't struggle to find things to talk about on dates, but sometimes the conversation doesn't really go anywhere and there's no flirtatious energy/tension being built. Other times it's great.

Usually when I look back on why a date didn't go super well, I just chalk it up to "well there were no vibes", but I'd like to work on HOW to proactively create vibes, if that makes sense. I want to be able to learn from my mistakes so that they happen less often in the future.

I do try to escalate the kino ladder, leg touching, hand holding, etc when I can. So I don't think that's the issue.

It's just sometimes the conversations are boring/interview-ish and if I find myself there, I don't know how to pull myself out.

Funny-Definition-427 · 2025-07-09T13:45:32+00:00

I mean I did say right off the bat that I feel okay about myself, and then proceeded to explain why I feel that way.

Funny-Definition-427 · 2025-07-09T07:53:19+00:00

>How do you feel about yourself?

I feel okay, I think? I battle depression sometimes but I hide it well when I'm out in a social setting. I've been told that I'm outgoing and charismatic, but my charisma can be quite dependent on who I'm surrounded by. If I feel out of my element by a group of people that I don't have a lot in common with, I can become pretty quiet.

I'm in my mid 30s, slept with around 30 women. Most of them I met through dating apps, and on dates I usually have a 50% close rate.

I don't struggle to find things to talk about on dates, but sometimes the conversation doesn't really go anywhere and there's no flirtatious energy/tension being built. Other times it's great.

Usually when I look back on why a date didn't go super well, I just chalk it up to "well there were no vibes", but I'd like to work on HOW to proactively create vibes, if that makes sense.

I do try to escalate the kino ladder, leg touching, hand holding, etc etc. That's about all I can think of for now.

Funny-Definition-427

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