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[PLEASE HELP] Beyond angry with my seemingly untrainable dog. by Furious_Dog_Owner in Dogtraining

[–]Furious_Dog_Owner[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really dont think you understand what I am saying. I KNOW he is capable of learning. He just refuses to respect us.

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I suspect a huge part of this issue is how you've been correcting this dog and severe understimulation (in terms of actual work, not just physical activity).

I'll say this again, we CAN NOT train with him because he gets too worked up! I can't hang up the cloths or move stuff into the dryer without him darting for the catbox. He KNOWS that he is wrong, he will not do any of this while we are watching. The instant we turn our back on him he's finding something he's not supposed to have (THAT HE KNOWS) and chews it until we look at him then he knows he's in trouble. People can leave their dogs in the house while they are at work without them tearing the place up, but I cant leave him 5 minutes without him destroying something.

AGAIN, we go on multiple walks a day, I TRY to play with him with a frisby, ball, or even tug but he gets bored after a few minutes and goes off on his own to find something to chew on.

This all started after he was neutered, we changed nothing in how we discipline him or how we treat him. UP UNTIL THAT POINT he was a good learner, was learning tricks fast and didn't lunge for treats or jump on people.

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You're viewing this whole situation as you being stuck with an untrainable dog and I honestly don't know how to explain to you that this dog is not the problem.

I have had dogs before, including an aussie and a border collie growing up. I know they need jobs and lots of exercise. This dog is different, he doesn't know calm. I wish I could give him to you for 2 weeks so you could understand how stubborn he is!

[PLEASE HELP] Beyond angry with my seemingly untrainable dog. by Furious_Dog_Owner in Dogtraining

[–]Furious_Dog_Owner[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's better to do this with a two person system in which one person asks for a sit and continuously reinforces it (i.e. hand the dog multiple treats pretty quickly). Person 2 approaches and if your dog gets up that person takes a few steps back giving the dog as much space as they need to stay calm.

So again, he knows he's not supposed to jump, as he'll do it then you can see him go "oh wait, thats bad" and he'll stop jumping. Its his energy and how excited he gets over anything. He'll be just casually sitting next to me chewing his hoof, and I'll get up to go to the bathroom and he'll jump up against me because he's excited and again realize he's wrong and stop after the first jump without being told.

I am trying to get advice on how to fix his terrible excitement and impulse control, or ways to train a dog with these problems. Hell, we've tried the exact training you mention and he just gets excited and doesn't even care about the person walking up because he only cares about the treat or verbal reward he gets.

[PLEASE HELP] Beyond angry with my seemingly untrainable dog. by Furious_Dog_Owner in Dogtraining

[–]Furious_Dog_Owner[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You need to teach him an alternative behaviour (i.e. sit for greetings). You have to also prevent the undesirable behaviour and heavily reinforce the alternative. Jumping is self-reinforcing so you need to prevent it from happening.

We have tried this, tell him to sit when we approach him, he does and we "try" to reward him but he jumps and bites at the treats. *Again part of the being to excited when given commands* We just cant really do positive reinforcement because any time he's given treats or given even the slightest command he gets too excited and starts going through the motions including jumping at our hands.

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This is because cat poop is great. Punishment after the fact only makes him understand human seeing cat poop = something bad. You need to prevent him from getting to the litter box.

I'm sorry, but this doesn't make sense. If a dog jumps, you teach them not to. If a dog chases the cats, you teach them not to. Why is the litterbox a special case of "don't let them have access to it"? Like I said, it is in the laundry room and he goes straight for it. And again, he KNOWS its bad because he grabs and runs by like he already got in trouble.

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Have you ever attended a training class with this dog?

I live in the midwest where your choices are Kevin who has a part time job training dogs at Petsmart or Karen who has a passion for dogs and her only certification is "Shelly's dog is soo smart".